Has P.E.T.A. gone too far this time? Brainwashing poor Heidi Klum?

Are you sure she's not intending to marry a Navy Seal? Underwire support for the troops?

If forced to push much deeper, it's also part of my continuing criticism of the WashPo.com for being
1) apparently unedited most of the time
2) absolutely whorish in its use of lurid celebrity news to attract googlers. Sometimes with stories that don't appear in the print edition at all--certainly almost never with the same prominence.

But mainly, it just sounded like she was marrying a seal. A dark blue one. A "navy" seal.

See, it can go on forever!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081013/ap_on_fe_st/odd_name_change

There is a weirdly teenaged shortsightedness in that: surely in a few years they'll be driving to a new re-branded website with a different URL!

I wonder which one of her family members is all "Yeah that's cool I'll call you Cutout..."

Dave Coulier

^^ joke would have been 10,000 x funnier phrased as "Uncle Joey"

I wouldn't mind if Ms. CutoutDissection.com had the heavenly voice of Heidi Klum's husband and production by Trevor Horn.

I support her decision, though it does, as nabisco says, seem a liyyle short-sighted. Why not change her name to Stop Dissection Now?

http://www.kingdomgraphics.biz/images/blog/cutitout.gif

Slightly dated, but still worthy of mention:

Burlington, Vt. - This morning, PETA dispatched a letter to Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, cofounders of ice cream icon Ben & Jerry's Homemade Inc., urging them to replace the cow's milk in their products with human breast milk.

http://www.peta.org/Sea_Kittens/index.asp#

LOL

People don't seem to like fish. They're slithery and slimy, and they have eyes on either side of their pointy little heads—which is weird, to say the least. Plus, the small ones nibble at your feet when you're swimming, and the big ones—well, the big ones will bite your face off if Jaws is anything to go by.

Of course, if you look at it another way, what all this really means is that fish need to fire their PR guy—stat. Whoever was in charge of creating a positive image for fish needs to go right back to working on the Britney Spears account and leave our scaly little friends alone. You've done enough damage, buddy. We've got it from here. And we're going to start by retiring the old name for good. When your name can also be used as a verb that means driving a hook through your head, it's time for a serious image makeover. And who could possibly want to put a hook through a sea kitten?

Now I'm starting to think of kittens as slithery and slimy.

I already have one land otter.

http://209.180.204.251/endangered/eel-dog.jpg

Is there a good reason (fundraising , not looking wishywashy?) that peta chooses causing that are publicly unpalatable and unlikely to be successful?

Turns out calm, rational discussions don't grab as much attention as TITS TITS NAKED LADIES BOOBIES BOOBIES BOOBIES.

there is only one Dot Com:

http://www.observer.com/files/imagecache/vertical/files/021930rock.jpg

This "Sea Kittens" bullshit makes me wonder if PETA actually wants to be laughing stocks.

My cat eats "sea kittens" all the time. CANNIBALISM!

cattibalism

So EComplex was Pato, right?

I am angry now that there are not sea kittens. Fuck fish, I want real, actual sea kittens!

I'm just sayin' - there's a serious problem with cause and effect here. It's not that people think the word 'kitten' is cute, it's that they think kittens themselves are cute. Anyway, if people will eat something called 'scrod' there's no way that any renaming will change their habits. Call fish 'Natural Ds' if you want - people will still want to eat 'em. Okay, maybe that's not the best example.

http://www.peta.org/feat/newkirk/will.html

h. That one of my thumbs be removed, mounted upwards on a plaque, and sent to the person or institution that, in the year of my death or thereabouts, PETA decides has done the most to promote alternatives to the use and abuse of animals in any area of their exploitation

that should encourage them.

d. That one of my eyes be removed, mounted, and delivered to the administrator of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency as a reminder that PETA will continue to be watching the agency until it stops poisoning and torturing animals in useless and cruel experiments; that the other is to be used as PETA sees fit;

Please please please please let me get that EPA job before Ingrid Newkirk dies, please, please....

Oh shit, I didn't see that the other eye "is to be used as PETA sees fit"!

Please please please please let me get a job with PETA before Ingrid Newkirk dies so I can do whatever I see fit with her other eye, please, please....

what would you do with it? or should this be a separate poll thread?

what a fucking nutcase.

catfish are delicious

eyekabobs

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE55H4Z220090618

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc50xF6E7-8

loooooool I admit my first reaction to the Obama fly-killing was wondering what type of complaint PETA would lodge

Isn't PETA just doing more harm than good at this point? I mean they've managed to turn a genuine concern for the well-being of animals into a laughingstock.

That is exactly how I feel about them and why I wish they would go away.

how cool would it be if obama's official presidential response to PETA's complaints was "lol."

or "u mad"

C'mon PETA, he gave the fly a chance. "Get outta here!"

Hey all, I'm usually on ILM, but this thread caught my interest.

In PETA's defense, the group did not volunteer its view on "flygate" (awesome name). Media outlets came to them for an answer, and the answer they got wasn't at all inflammatory or outlandish. Follow the link above. PETA said:

"Believe it or not, we've actually been contacted by multiple media outlets wanting to know PETA's official response to the executive insect execution," a blog on the group's website explained. "In a nutshell, our position is this: He isn't the Buddha, he's a human being, and human beings have a long way to go before they think before they act."

Basically, PETA wishes Obama exercised a little thought before killing the fly. Maybe he could've caught it and taken it outside or something. (It's what I do when flies enter my home.)

They then sent him a fly catcher that doesn't kill the fly. Oh, and PETA's Bruce Friedrich later added that the organization was appreciative of Obama's voting record on animal rights. And that's about it! There are no real fireworks or controversy here. It's media really trying to create something for us to click on and read.

like, any time from now on when they do an ad about how cows suffer to provide milk i'm gonna assume there's going to be a punchline about how milk makes you spunk harder or something.

That'd be Soya Milk, obviously.

well, yeah, i just think that my first instinct when i hear that somber piano music should be be something like "this is a horrible tragedy; i should donate a lot of money and do a march or volunteer," not "and then i knocked the bottom out of that shit."

OT but it is really weird as a Britishish to hear that the weirdly prissy 'knocked the bottom out of me' is actual slang for vigorous sex. I'd say hilarious but, you know, within the general context of sexytimes being conflated with assault..

it's funny that the guy still looks schlubby and bespectacled and .. you know, vegan.

I resemble that remark

yeah, but he PACKS!

Basically, it's a crap advert, as well as being terrible.

what would happen if everybody did go vegan? Cows would become extinct within a couple of generations and everybody would be left without bottoms. That's not a future I believe in, PETA.

And without bottoms, we'd all become extinct!

I never want to watch that ad again but is it explained at any point why going vegan gives you lots of sexy vim? I know, there's lots to object to apart from the internal logic, but still...

is it explained at any point why going vegan gives you lots of sexy vim?

No. And That's why it's a crap advert.

The other objectionable stuff is why it's a terrible advert.

In fairness, all the vegans I know are really hott, so there might be something in it. However, the sample may be too low to be statistically significant.

being as it's a sample of three people, and two of them are seeing each other.

any injuries?

i had never heard "knocked the bottom out of me" used in any context before. so thanks for that, peta.

would we ever consider euthanizing millions of humans simply because we lacked the resources to prevent them from living unhappy live

Negative utilitarianism

It hasn't be espoused outside of philosophy thought pieces but its out there.

Humans die on their own when you withhold life's necessities, or if you put them in a war zone, and this has been thought a sufficient substitute for euthanasia of millions of humans since time out of mind.

BTW, I'm another vegan that kinda hates PETA. Not for their motives, or the euthanasia, but for their tone-deafness.

There's a bit of a rationale why vegan diets might prevent erectile dysfunction (both male and female) in the middle aged. Here's its handled outside PETA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ECnqXQpDA

PETA could have made a perfectly convincing vid featuring an attractive middle aged woman lamenting her hamburger eating partner's inability to satisfy and looking longingly at the affectionate similarly aged vegan couple. But I guess we wouldn't be talking about that one.

re: negative utilitarianism

lol, yeah. there books and "movements" dedicated to non-procreation. not just the idea that people should refrain from having kids, but that the entire human race has a moral obligation to voluntarily extinguish itself by not reproducing. this because life necessarily entails suffering, you see, and we can't have that.

makes sense.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/scientists-look-onethird-of-the-human-race-has-to,27166/

One of those 'movements', Chris Korda's Church of Euthanasia released a fabulous electroclash album about ten years ago but they seem to have disappeared.

Or two vegan guys, what about that then?

Too edgy?

― Mark G, Friday, 17 February 2012 09:34 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

My bad, there is a whole set of these, and yes there is a 'gay guys' one.

lol, yeah. there books and "movements" dedicated to non-procreation.

like certain groups of shakers

huh i remember touring a shaker village as a kid and that point in partics stuck out the most

(i was with my family, i didn't go on some childhood tour of shaker villages)

i knew that the shakers don't procreate, but i didn't (and still don't) know anything about their reasons for this. always figured it was probably a puritan thing, rising above base urgings and all. are you saying, amateurist, that it reflects an antinatalist objection to bringing children into a world of suffering?

antinatalism

the voluntary human extinction movement

an antinatalist muses on 'the shaker problem'

“Kanye can't help making himself look like an idiot, whether at an awards show or a fashion show,” PETA'S Matthews lashed into Yeezy during the time. “He and his girlfriend look like pathetic creatures from a shabby roadside zoo.”

classy

worst.

They deserve each other.

they sorta do look like that though, if you look at the pics

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/05/peta-tucker-max-donation-planned-parenthood_n_1406795.html?ref=green

^^ actually funny

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1//2010/01/kanye-fur/kanye-west-amber-rose-fur-coats-louis-vuitton-paris-fashion-week-02.jpg

kanye looks like a furry with a "rolling in dirt" fetish

she looks like she's wearing a polar bear costume

Wow, that Huff post piece describes Ticker Max as "the author," as in "would not accept the author's donation."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/19/showbiz/tv/peta-animal-practice-canceled/index.html?hpt=en_c1

okay lol

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidewalt/2012/10/08/peta-pokemon-animal-abuse/

These people are ridiculous.

You can't spell incompetance without peta.

they are ridiculous yet I want to defend them just because my animal-hating trapper of an uncle constantly posts anti-peta shit on his fb.

i'm fine with their claiming a victory when ppl aren't interested in a comedy about vets featuring a monkey in a lab coat

otm

I've seen this article being passed around a bit today:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-j-winograd/peta-kills-puppies-kittens_b_2979220.html

I haven't seen it picked up by any real publications. Wondering about how real these claims are? It seems pretty fucked up if true.

Pretty much all my vegan acquaintances on other sites despise PETA, though usually for their pandering sexism than their negative utilitarianism.

As far as I'm concerned, about the only worthwhile thing PETA does is partially fund the The Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine, and even there, I wish Dr. Bernard found other benefactors.

Also xp, the allegations are well founded. The HBO documentary I am an Animal: Ingrid Newkirk and PETA follows along Newkirk and some PETA workers who "rescue" a pit chained to a tree, bring it to the HQ, and pretty swiftly euthanize it. Its not out of cruel intention, just a peculiar, insular and cultish groupthink among Newkirk's inner-circle that non-existence is a better fate than the vicissitudes life might bring.

One almost expects the DC news to report PETA's steering committee found slumped over their conference table surrounded by empty pentobarbital syringes.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0gbwdY1MH1qjt6h1o1_500.jpg

Wait no this one is better

http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1121/4733436305_5bb8e96eef_z.jpg

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--oiXL6Gk1--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/rscbbcjjclalycxdrhz8.jpg

this facial expression

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH