FA Cup 2004-2005

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Third round starts tomorrow, boys and girls! Are you all excited?

Note to all Grecians - please make Roy Caroll CRY.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 7 January 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

i predict a comfortable 2-0 win and very soggy feet for Liverpool

― Stevem On X (blueski), Friday, 7 January 2005 11:56 (twenty years ago)

What about predicted upsets? I'm assuming that Sheffield United knocking out Villa is a given. I also think Plymouth could do Everton, but the shock* of the round will be when Rochdale beat Charlton at the Valley.

*Depsite Charlton losing all FA Cup games ever.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 7 January 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

Are we still going to go to a Charlton game?

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 7 January 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

(Check yr email)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 7 January 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

Plymouth beating Everton wouldn't surprise me at all. Home Park is a bleak place.

― Matt (Matt), Friday, 7 January 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

Home Park is a bleak place

Anywhere with Bobby Williamson in it is a bleak place by default.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 7 January 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Just watch City lose at Boundary Park four days after drawing at Highbury.

― Japanese Giraffe (Japanese Giraffe), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

I really don't approve of all this Friday kickoff nonsense. All third round matches should be played at 3pm sharp on a Saturday.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 7 January 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

I like Plymouth! I met some of the squad when I was out there and they seemed pretty good humans, I hope they win.

agree abt Friday being madness IS NOTHING SACRED etc etc

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 7 January 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

well done the Blades, bye bye Villa!

― MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 8 January 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

Its okay - God has acted to prevent the desecration of this sacred tradition.

Villa out. Told you.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 8 January 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

scunthorpe one up.....notts county winning....is it going to be giant-killing day?

― winterland, Saturday, 8 January 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Man City a goal down too. COME ON EXETER.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 8 January 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

Is Anelka still sulking?

― winterland, Saturday, 8 January 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

up the bleddy ciddy!

live on 5 live xtra folks.....

― Porkpie (porkpie), Saturday, 8 January 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

From Sky Sports..."there's an argument between Mick McCarthy and Ian Dowie..could get ugly"

― winterland, Saturday, 8 January 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

Brighton have equalised against Spurs.

― The Horse of Babylon (the pirate king), Saturday, 8 January 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe Exeter and man u are still nil-nil! And that Exeter is getting all the scoring chances!

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 8 January 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

Ronaldo just got subbed in

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 8 January 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

Alan Smith on as well now!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 8 January 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

And Paul Scholes as well. Shows how well Exeter have done, or how poor Fergie's reserves are.

Replay at St James's Park. COME ON!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 8 January 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

Do they have extra time in the FA?

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 8 January 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

Fergie is reeking of desperation.

Kammy reckons that Scunny should be beating chelski

not in the initial game no, only in the replays

― Porkpie (porkpie), Saturday, 8 January 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

COME ON CITY!

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 8 January 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

oof, take that Fergie

Tim H and Carsmile etc off to Exeter now!

― Porkpie (porkpie), Saturday, 8 January 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

what a great result

― Stevem On X (blueski), Saturday, 8 January 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

I can't WAIT until Tim, Steve or Dave post to this thread. Incredible.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 8 January 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, huge congrats to the Exeter posse! Fantastic result, and more cash to come!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 8 January 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

The replay will be live on telly, won't it? Even more money there.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 8 January 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

Even as United fan, I was actually hoping we wouldn't score in the last few minutes as that would have been too cruel on Exeter. I'm not very optimistic about the replay.

― The Horse of Babylon (the pirate king), Saturday, 8 January 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

So beautiful!

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 8 January 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

Aaron, did you make it to the Exeter game on New Years Day in the end?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 8 January 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

Just watch City lose at Boundary Park four days after drawing at Highbury.

-- Japanese Giraffe (nihonnokiri...), January 7th, 2005.

― DJ Mencap0))), Saturday, 8 January 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

I did Matt! Had a wonderful time in Hereford.

Exeter is undefeated in games I've attended or listened to over internet radio.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 8 January 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

Magnificent efforts from Exeter et al but that's enough FA Cup giantkilling for today, ta.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 8 January 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

South west double on the cards...

― Matt (Matt), Saturday, 8 January 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

Osman and McFadden have just scored to steady Mike's nerves (haha, do you see what I did there)

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 8 January 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

Hmm, Everton look like they might scrape through, being two up already.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 8 January 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

ah, then again...

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 8 January 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

ha, Beattie just put the ball about ten yards over the bar from four yards out!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 8 January 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

A stroll for half an hour and then...unpleasantness. Beattie isn't fit, Naysmith is having a nightmare and the less said about the defending for the goal (sans Yobo and his dodgy finger) the better. In Osman we trust.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 8 January 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

ferguson claimed that he was pleased with today's outcome because "we're still in the cup". what utter horseshit. fairly or unfairly (probably the latter, as i didn't see the game) i'm laying the blame with that waster wes brown.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 8 January 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

That'll do - not terribly convincing and Pistone continues to be the worst crosser of a ball in the top flight (Mike Pejic and Gary Stevens must be turning in their...La-Z-Boy recliners) but I look forward to a home tie with Burnley in r4.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 8 January 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

Armadillos all round!

― Tom (Groke), Saturday, 8 January 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

!!!!!!!!!!!!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 9 January 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)

(The word from The Guvnor, incidentally, is 'Blimey!')

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 9 January 2005 02:49 (twenty years ago)

http://www.soccernet.com/images/jb2/unitedexeter_332get.jpg

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Sunday, 9 January 2005 04:02 (twenty years ago)

Sadly I think the only way Ferguson is going to restore his ravaged pride after the events of this week is to play his first choice XI at St James's Park and smash the plucky Grecians into a million tiny pieces, but hey.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 9 January 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

I wonder how large The Guvnor's ruin is this morning?

― RickyT (RickyT), Sunday, 9 January 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

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Fuck. Still, has least I had 85mins to brace myself for the fact. I thought it was a fairly decent tie despite everything, definitely compared to going 3-0 up against Man City and still managing to lose. Yet another reason to hate Lee Bowyer though.

Man Utd v Arse final would be amazing but as far as I know it has never actually happened. Something tells me this cup has Alan Shearer's name on it though.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 13 March 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

Spurs got a lot of bookings, I didn't see the game, as I have no Sky.

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 13 March 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

I didn't see it either, but I did see the earlier game and felt quite sorry for Leicester - they did very well to hold Blackburn for so long and it was a very soft penalty award.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 13 March 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

I saw the first half of the Blackburn match, it was kinda funny that Johanson had apodted the Robbie Savage hair style for the match.

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 13 March 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

Arsenal's fifth semi in a row and the seventh in eight years - surely if they meet Man U again they could not lose to them yet AGAIN? at least one of them will finish the season without a trophy...

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Sunday, 13 March 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

I was getting a bit fed up with the slagging they were giving Craig Levein for having had the misfortune of being in Scotland's squad for Italia 90 . Paraphrasing slightly, and apropos of absolutely nothing, it was along the lines of "of course, Scotland got beaten by Costa Rica, but this was back in the days when Scotland would have been expected to beat a team like that, not like now, hahaha". Levein didn't even play in that game, and they soon shut up about how crap Scotland were when Scotland international striker Paul Dickov put the ball past England international keeper Ian Walker.

Incidentally, has Ian Walker ever looked in a mirror and thought that his hair looks shit? Someone really should tell him.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 13 March 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

Man Utd v Arse final would be amazing but as far as I know it has never actually happened

1979 - Arsenal 2-0 up with 5 mins to play, United pull it back to 2-2 only for Arsenal to score again right at the end.

― The Horse of Babylon (the pirate king), Sunday, 13 March 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

ha ailsa, did you notice how the BBC commentator said "Ian Walker...England international....against Paul Dickov...."?

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Sunday, 13 March 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

Yes, that was what annoyed me, he could have redressed the balance after a totally random slagging of Scottish football based on the fact that Craig Levein once didn't play in an embarrassing game. But no, let's get the boot in during, er, an FA Cup quarterfinal :)

Poor Gary Lineker was quite upset that no-one in the studio seemed to agree that Leicester weren't totally crap.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 13 March 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

Arsenal v Blackburn
Man Utd v Newcastle

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiinterestiiiiiiiiing...

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

i want the Arsenal v Man U final and i want to see Arsenal beat Man U outside of a Charity Shield for the first time in 3 years or whatever it is now. but if Souness actually manages to guide Newcastle to a trophy that'll be a bittersweet pill for Bobby Robson i'd have thought.

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

at least one of them will finish the season without a trophy...

stevem you applying for a job as a commentator?

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

that paul dickov penalty hurts my eyes everytime i see it on the news - i don't care about the result either way but

ARRGH THAT BALL WAS LIKE TOTALLY NOT ON THE SPOT.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

it's like reading sentences that uses "your" instead of "you're"

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Newcastle last won the FA Cup in 1955.

Does anybody want to guess who won Division 1 that year?

Some people might take this to be an omen.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

i want the Arsenal v Man U final and i want to see Arsenal beat Man U outside of a Charity Shield for the first time in 3 years or whatever it is now

Stevem's prediction comes true as the ginger Pele shows himself to be a crappy penalty taker and Lehmann discovers the form that has deserted him most of the season.

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 21 May 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

My anger and distress is only partly alleviated by the sight of Cristiano Ronaldo crying yet again.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 21 May 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

Chuffed!

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Saturday, 21 May 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

Totally unbothered either way, actually, result-wise, though watching Big Chief Fannydangle reduced to a blubbering heap is, as Matt points out, really really funny.

Good entertaining game, one for the neutrals etc.

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 21 May 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

(my last cliched comments were posted before Alan Hansen just said them there)

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 21 May 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

This Arsenal fan on 606 is kinda embarassing me.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Saturday, 21 May 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

I think the Ronaldo schadenfreude is a bit old hat - he was the best player on the pitch for the first 90 minutes.

Nevertheless, I am glad Arsenal won. The sight of a triumphant Fergie and Keane would have been sickening.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Saturday, 21 May 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

I agree that Ronaldo was the best player in that final - better than Rooney I thought, although a close call. United ridiculously profligate in front of goal - considering they dominated the 90mins they could have been four or five goals up.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 21 May 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

Oh, he was undoubtedly very good, but his stepover twinklytoes routine really annoys me, also he just looks annoyingly slappable.

(xpost)

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 21 May 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Ronanldo is like the United player I like! And Giggs maybe. I am incapable of hating twinkletoes wingers.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Saturday, 21 May 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

Arsenal's tactics of not playing a proper forward line was mystifying. Maybe they were going for penalties from the get-go.

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 21 May 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

I wish I hadn't resisted the urge to take a nap in the first half. I could've just watched from about the 60th minute.

Arsenal were very lucky, I reckon they'll sell Reyes pretty quickly now.

― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 21 May 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Ronaldo is okay now, I hated him last year, mainly because of his hair.

― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 21 May 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

Fucking Reyes. I was banking on him skying his penalty.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 21 May 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

He's like the Spanish Diouf.

― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 21 May 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

I would just like to hold up my hands and say that we stole that game today.

― Antonio Reyes, Saturday, 21 May 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

Yes, indeed. Much as it pains me to admit it, we only had one shot on target over 2 hours of football. We will donate the trophy to United.

― Arsene Wenger, Saturday, 21 May 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

But United had lots of shots on target and failed to do anything useful with them like get them past Lehmann (Rio's offside goal nothwithstanding). Therefore both teams suck and the tournament should be declared null and void. Ha! Nobody's a winner, baby.

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 21 May 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

Much as that was an unjust result, there are no circumstances under which watching MU players blubbing is not funny.

― Si Carter (Si Carter), Saturday, 21 May 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

Also, as a Scottish person who hates the sight of Scholes for being singularly responsible for us failing to qualify for Euro 2000, can I just say HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHA at this point?

Thanks.

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 21 May 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

Way to hold a grudge.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Saturday, 21 May 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

just wish keane had missed his penalty but its ok :-)

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 21 May 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

He's like the Spanish Diouf.

dont knock dioufy!

― charltonlido (gareth), Saturday, 21 May 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

It's always worth seeing Cristiano Ronaldo cry. I mean... I don't know what it is about him, but it's his face and his smirk and if I were a player I wouldn't be able to stop myself from kicking him. In the face if possible.

Oh, I do know what it is.

― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Saturday, 21 May 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

Hey, it's been well established elsewhere that petty grudges are a GOOD THING in football supporting.

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 21 May 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

man utd in not being able to score a goal shockah.

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 21 May 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

Man of the match, in my view = Lehmann. A few terrific saves, plus the key save that won the shootout. I thought Rooney had been the best in the 90 - Ronaldo wasted too much, as usual, but Rooney looked most like breaking the deadlock.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 21 May 2005 22:12 (twenty years ago)

ken c otm. united's silliness in front of goal is representative of a deep-rooted problem in the current team. united may have been the better team on the day, but it was not "bad luck" that they failed to turn this superior performance into a superior goals tally - that's something that's been happening all season.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 21 May 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

it's difficult to pin point why this is happening though. like today, none of the front players looked all that bad as individuals.

ronaldo pretty much pwned lauren for the whole day, he played well enough but he just wasn't delivering passes that are telling enough just yet.

rooney was terrific to watch, but i think he hasn't been great for the team through the season. he's always going for the outrageous efforts on goal, and getting lots of near misses, which may look impressive but is actually not very helpful if there are easier options e.g. setting a shot up for someone else in a better position.

and generally they just don't look like the front 4 or 5 players actually play with each other up front. van nistelrooy never got any decent service that's not from a corner. ronaldo is the closest to a beckham they have and he's just not delivering quite as well yet.

i wonder if scholes will retire proper next year. his involvement in the games nowadays seems to revolve around playing some neat passing movements with the back four. and giggs doesn't threaten the way he used to anymore (maybe it's just that there's ronaldo now who does the fancy dribble fun things that he used to do)

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 21 May 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

Their problem is Ruud having been out for a lot of the time, Ronaldo looking fab but not producing much, no idea what the best midfield line-up or formation is. They have a bunch of players clearly past their best (maybe Scholes, certainly Giggs, obviously Keane), and none of the replacements look the part at all yet. Rooney has been very good, and for a teenager in an unsettled team asked to play different roles with all sorts of partners, after a period out injured following a huge transfer, has had a great season, and has scored lots of goals.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 21 May 2005 23:15 (twenty years ago)

Ronaldo ia really damm good at stepping over the ball and falling over. At least Rooney runs at the defender before collapsing like a house of cards.

Man of the match should have been Senderos.

― Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Sunday, 22 May 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

Lauren was embarassing. Lehmann, as much as ~~hate~~ distrust him looked good. It was an excellent game for an American to be re-aquainted with my pre-soccer loving disdain for the game. Frankly, I've seen more exciting Italian league finals and though I was rooting for Arsenal out of a greater dislike of Man U, I thought United were the only positive looking team in the match. Ronaldo and Rooney actually ran the ball at Arsenal (why did Wenger take so long to bring Ljungberg and Van Persie in?). Again, and I know this means nothing to y'all, I fuckin' hate penalty shoot outs. Considering I had to get up on a Saturday at 5:40 am, 'twas rather boring actually.

― M. White (Miguelito), Sunday, 22 May 2005 06:24 (twenty years ago)

I was reading somewhere that they are making an animated film about Man U with cameos from Rooney and Ronaldo in an attempt to lure in the young girls. Are young girls blind?

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 22 May 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

Man of the match should have been Senderos

This would be the player that let Van Nistelrooy clean through on goal leaving Lehmann to sort out his mess, then?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 22 May 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

So Henry to Barcelona? Why is there no transfer speculation thread yet??

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 22 May 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

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