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and it ain't cheap!

Emilymv (Emilymv), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

i can imagine that no one is very surprised, but to hear the guy (williams) talk, it seems he really doesn't understand that this was wrong. and i am a bit shocked that the adiministration thought it could get away with this, that it was somehow worth the risk of negative press. are they that comfortable with the incompetency of the media?

Emilymv (Emilymv), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

brother's gettin' PAID. BLING BLING what what.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

Gross.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

are they that comfortable with the incompetency of the media?

Every action they take suggests yes.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

its like the media and the white house are in heated battle to see who can be named the most incompetent in all of the land. and williams is clearly working for both fronts.

Emilymv (Emilymv), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

y'all just player haters.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

Williams' contract was part of a $1 million deal with Ketchum that produced "video news releases" designed to look like news reports. The Bush administration used similar releases last year to promote its Medicare prescription drug plan, prompting a scolding from the Government Accountability Office, which called them an illegal use of taxpayers' dollars.

yup, i wondered when these were gunna get mentioned.

kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

i vaguely remember that story. wasn't there some woman who was playing the role of the reporter in those fake news stories who was villified in a hilarious/(unfair if you are not evil) way?

Emilymv (Emilymv), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

Stencil-jokes on this thread are bugging / creeping me out.

nabiscothingy (nory), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

what?

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

Its sad that the Bush administration was reduced to actually PAYING for propaganda when the media has been providing it as a free service for so, so long.

Whatever happened with that fake ass news report for the Medicare benefit? I guess that was 'legal'?

major jingleberries (jingleberries), Friday, 7 January 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

you are correct, sir. I kinda think it's brilliantly awesome that they were stupid enough to pay this guy so much money to espouse views he already holds! that's all i mean with the bling bling talk.

oh and that some people on ilx seem to think brothers (or anyone really) getting paid is more important than the morals involved in their payment, but that's another story.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

the story of 'bitch better have my money!'

Emilymv (Emilymv), Friday, 7 January 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

not some, not half

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

dammit, my response got eaten.

anyway, yeah, the fake reporter was "Karen Ryan". The Daily show had plenty of "Wow! What a reporter! I want to meet her!" jokes, and the folks at CampaignDesk/CJR Daily covered it, too:

http://www.campaigndesk.org/archives/001015.asp

kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 7 January 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

suffice it to say that "disingenious" is a word we're going to be hearing a LOT over the next year...

kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 7 January 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for the explanation, Stencil (which leaves me slightly less creeped out): as it stood the jokes looked a bit like if the guy was Native American you'd have posted "chief make big wampum."

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 7 January 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

(Would it be wrong to point out that if the guy was Native American, "chief make big wampum" jokes could be defended by the exact same logic?)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 January 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

no, that sounds about right dan.

Emilymv (Emilymv), Friday, 7 January 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

hee hee. Now i'm thinking of the Harvey Birdman "coffee spill" episode...

"heh. chief got his teepee back."

kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 7 January 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

ihttp://www.monmouth.army.mil/cecom/lrc/specstd/ve/images/vcc30007.gif

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 7 January 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

you know, i saw Dances with Wolves on Bravo the other night, and it's really underrated.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

http://www.propagandamagazine.net/news/gfx/news_7_19_02.jpg

teenygoth (teeny), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

the goth equivalent is "mordred just scored a big casket" or something.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

http://www.campaigndesk.org/archives/001224.asp

some coverage of this today:

...First, the Washington Post reports that the Office of National Drug Control Policy stole a page out of HHS' playbook and hired a former journalist, Mike Morris, to be their Karen Ryan. According to the Post, local anchors were provided a script that led into a "report" by Morris that included interviews with John Walters, the head of the federal drug policy control office, and other government officials.

[...]

Perhaps Steele was still a little sleepy when the USA Today reporter called him, but there should be zero sympathy for Williams. There is no gray area in this case: Williams took money -- lots of money -- to cloak government propaganda as his own commentary. And then, when exposed, he brushed the incident off with an excuse worthy of a professional arsonist explaining why he took money to torch a block of dilapidated buildings.

The price tag for these two examples of government buying positive news coverage of current policy: nearly $400,000.

kingfish (Kingfish), Saturday, 8 January 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

George W. Bush is a Communist. So are all his supporters.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 8 January 2005 00:05 (twenty years ago)

Why don't they move to Russia already?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 8 January 2005 00:07 (twenty years ago)

or North Korea

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 8 January 2005 00:07 (twenty years ago)

http://www.u2world.com/news/IMG/jpg/1844429873.02.lzzzzzzz.jpg

rotger, Saturday, 8 January 2005 00:11 (twenty years ago)

Maybe this is the really-verifiably-illegal thing we need to finally send these baffled little creeps to the clink. What a bunch of arrogant, spoiled brats.

xpost, I think

Lixi Swank (tracerhand), Saturday, 8 January 2005 00:16 (twenty years ago)

haw!

haw, Saturday, 8 January 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)

AND the band's manager! woohoo i'm so buying this now

XP maybe

kingfish (Kingfish), Saturday, 8 January 2005 00:28 (twenty years ago)

I could shill bullshit policy as well as any of these guys and I need the money. Where does one sign up for this? The Ministry of Information?

Michael White (Hereward), Saturday, 8 January 2005 00:29 (twenty years ago)

gabbneb, you don't think the clinton admin set precedent for crap like this when the ondcp started paying hollywood for "anti-drug" scripts?

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)

I'm just wondering how much bank Cheney's daughter is going to demand when she goes on the road to promote the Gay Marriage Ban amendment.

donut christ (donut), Saturday, 8 January 2005 04:02 (twenty years ago)

I dunno if that follows exactly, presumably it's in this guy's interest for education to be better. But maybe Mary doesn't wanna get married, who knows?

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 04:04 (twenty years ago)

presumably it's in this guy's interest for education to be better

so why support something that actively makes education worse, is the question. well, WAS the question. i think we have the answer to that now.

Lixi Swank (tracerhand), Saturday, 8 January 2005 04:08 (twenty years ago)

well that is a good question, why not ask Teddy Kennedy as well as George Bush? NCLB, as crap as it is, took two to tango.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 04:21 (twenty years ago)

gabbneb, you don't think the clinton admin set precedent for crap like this when the ondcp started paying hollywood for "anti-drug" scripts?

Hollywood is not Pravda

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 8 January 2005 04:29 (twenty years ago)

and neither is talk radio! wtf? you guys.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 04:30 (twenty years ago)

and "'anti-drug' scripts" encourage compliance with the democratically-established law of the land

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 8 January 2005 04:30 (twenty years ago)

this guy's day job is as a talk radio host, but he is a guest on programs of a journalistic nature, whether on CNN or NPR, and it is in those venues in which his message was sought to be conveyed

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 8 January 2005 04:32 (twenty years ago)

so you think NCLB was passed by the politburo or something? give me a break, nell carter!

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 04:33 (twenty years ago)

"The Right Side," as far as I know, isn't on CNN or NPR. It's syndicated. And who the fuck watches and/or listens anyway? Who had heard of this guy before today? I wanna see some hands, people.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 04:35 (twenty years ago)

like i just said, this isn't about his talk show. it's about his frequent appearances in mainstream news media, for which the talk show is supposed justification. i would never choose to watch him but sometimes end up doing so (usually changing the channel quickly).

i first heard of him 4 or 5 years ago, i think

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 8 January 2005 04:42 (twenty years ago)

hstencil, the Karen Ryan clips aired on local news shows.

Furthermore, Williams was being payed with taxpayer money to raise support for a hotly contested gov't-program, trying to coerce Hollywood into producing anti-drug scripts, while maybe questionable, is HARDLY the same thing.

C0L1N B--KETT, Saturday, 8 January 2005 04:45 (twenty years ago)

that's not what the article says:

Seeking to build support among black families for its education reform law, the Bush administration paid a prominent black pundit $240,000 to promote the law on his nationally syndicated television show and to urge other black journalists to do the same.

The campaign, part of an effort to promote No Child Left Behind (NCLB), required commentator Armstrong Williams "to regularly comment on NCLB during the course of his broadcasts," and to interview Education Secretary Rod Paige for TV and radio spots that aired during the show in 2004.

nowhere does it say anything about him being paid to promote NCLB in other appearances or in guest columns or whatever. Not that I doubt that he used the same talking points, but there is a difference. I'm amazed that you can't admit that, or admit that the Clinton-era ONDCP shenanigans were no different. NCLB is just as much a "democratically-established law of the land" as drug laws, whether or not we agree with them!

xpost - we're not talking about the Karen Ryan clips, we are talking about Williams. And the article says 2004, which was well after NCLB was passed.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 04:49 (twenty years ago)

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/net/20050107/capt.2dcc86eefd93fd26b25c28ed8ebb5d3c

President Bush signs into law a sweeping federal education bill that will require new reading and math tests, seek to close the education gap between rich and poor students and raise teacher standards, Jan. 8, 2002, at Hamilton High School in Hamilton, Ohio. From left to right standing are Rep. George Miller, D-Calif., Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., Education Secretary Rod Paige, Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., Rep. John Boehner, R-Ohio, woman at right unidentified. Children with Bush are Tez Taylor, left, and Cecilia Pallcio, right. (AP Photo/Ron Edmonds)

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 04:51 (twenty years ago)

Do you really not see the difference between paying a pundit to promote a very specific, partisan program and paying hollywood to promote a nebulous set of widely-supported values?

C0L1N B--KETT, Saturday, 8 January 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)

"relatively partisan" my ass.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:07 (twenty years ago)

from the Salon article that broke the story:

With this deal in place, government officials and their contractors began approving, and in some cases altering, the scripts of shows before they were aired to conform with the government's anti-drug messages. "Script changes would be discussed between ONDCP and the show -- negotiated," says one participant.

Rick Mater, the WB network's senior vice president for broadcast standards, acknowledges: "The White House did view scripts. They did sign off on them -- they read scripts, yes."

that to me is far more nefarious than some already-partisan flack reading some talking points!

it gets even worse when you read this:

In late 1997, Congress approved an immense, five-year, $1 billion ad buy for anti-drug advertising as long as the networks sold ad time to the government at half price -- a two-for-one deal that provided over $2 billion worth of ads for a $1 billion allocation.

But the five participating networks weren't crazy about the deal from the start. And when, soon after, they were deluged with the fruits of a booming economy, most particularly an unexpected wave of dot-com ads, they liked it even less.

So the drug czar's office, the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP), presented the networks with a compromise: The office would give up some of that precious ad time it had bought -- in return for getting anti-drug motifs incorporated within specific prime-time shows. That created a new, more potent strain of the anti-drug social engineering the government wanted. And it allowed the TV networks to resell the ad time at the going rate to IBM, Microsoft or Yahoo.

Alan Levitt, the drug-policy official running the campaign, estimates that the networks have benefited to the tune of nearly $25 million thus far.

I agree that this Williams guy is a shmuck, but his reach is not nearly as far as what $2 BN in advertising can buy! He only cost $200K!

and the anti-drug content clearly comes from our drug laws, duh.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:10 (twenty years ago)

And hey look at this: http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2005_01_02.php#004365. Williams and Ryan were contracted through the same PR firm.

C0L1N B--KETT, Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:10 (twenty years ago)

I'm not standing up for the Clinton drug time-buys, but nothing in that article suggests that the ads were promoting SPECIFIC Clinton policy apart from "don't do drugs". It's the difference between Williams saying "No Child Left Behind is the only way to reform our schools" and "our schools need to be reformed".

C0L1N B--KETT, Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:13 (twenty years ago)

well you know Williams owns his own pr firm, right?

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:14 (twenty years ago)

also, I don't know, nor do you (from that article) what Williams said about NCLB! And whatever he said doesn't matter, it's already law, it's the FUNDING that is the issue.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:15 (twenty years ago)

one of the Democrats above - George Miller - is not only one of the biggest liberals in Congress (and one of my favorite members), he's the chief guy now calling out Williams. hypocrisy? no. because the substance of NCLB is irrelevant to the fundamentally anti-democratic and anti-American procedural tactic used here. and anyway the substance of NCLB, like the substance of all Bush admin initiatives, is a canard - they always throw at least a sliver of good into the evil, or vice versa, for rhetorical purposes. that way, for example, when they get Dems to vote for something on balance they can claim the Dem's support for every prong of the package and call them a flip-flopper or obssessed with nuance if they try to challenge the lies.

do I like what Clinton did, procedurally? no. is it remotely in the same league as this? not even. is it a Republican tactic to divert attention from their complete lack of principle to point to anything Clinton did that can be remotely analogized? absolutely.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:16 (twenty years ago)

He was working for Kechum according to the WaPo.

(x-post)

C0L1N B--KETT, Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:20 (twenty years ago)

I am not a Republican, gabbneb.

If the Dems get suckered into voting for bad bills, perhaps we need either new Dems or a new party altogether. What we don't need is flacks who make excuses for Miller and Kennedy and Kerry when they're obfuscating the issue just as much, if not more so, than the GOP. The Dems and GOP voted for NCLB, the Dems voted for funding, the GOP didn't, the GOP outnumbers the Dems, hence the Dems lost. It's a fucking democracy (or representative republic blah blah).

Again, $2 BILLION is a lot more ad time than one dipshit with a show that's syndicated, not even on a cable channel much less a broadcast network.

I will say it's nice that Miller's calling him out on it. It's even nicer that USA Today reported it, seeing as that probably means Wiliams won't be contributing columns any more.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:21 (twenty years ago)

anyway read this: http://www.marijuana.org/Salon1-13-00.htm

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:24 (twenty years ago)

and no, the funding is not the only substantive issue. yes, the vote on the original bill was overwhelming in the Senate. that doesn't mean everyone was for it. most Dems (unlike Feingold, who voted against) in 2002 were not going to vote against something related to education that had the votes to pass anyway.

the passage vote was in 2002. the full-funding vote was in 2004.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:24 (twenty years ago)

the full-funding vote was on a separate education funding bill two years (and two wars) later! They are not the same bills.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:27 (twenty years ago)

this reads like a similar topic, lemme just change some words:

most Dems (unlike Feingold, who voted against) in 20021 were not going to vote against something related to education terrorism that had the votes to pass anyway.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:28 (twenty years ago)

anyway, gabbneb if you really want to belong to a political party that never deviates from the party line, never admits mistakes, and never takes any responsibility, I suggest you join the Republican party. I'm a Democrat precisely because most of the Democrats I know value diversity of thought, not toadying, or excuse-making (as you seem to be doing now). Just an idea.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:32 (twenty years ago)

do I like what Clinton did, procedurally? no. is it remotely in the same league as this? not even. is it a Republican tactic to divert attention from their complete lack of principle to point to anything Clinton did that can be remotely analogized? absolutely.

haha is gabbneb doing his rumsfeld impression here? you betcha.

Lixi Swank (tracerhand), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:35 (twenty years ago)

http://images.ucomics.com/comics/db/2004/db041202.gif

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:35 (twenty years ago)

(xpost)

it doesn't apply very well to the facts, whether the type of party i want to belong to or the comparative unity today of the two parties (the Dems aren't the ones who are riven)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:36 (twenty years ago)

no, it applies very well to the tired bullshit tactic you bring up whenever anyone criticizes the Dem party line, even if they are a Dem themselves: insinuate that they're a Republican.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:38 (twenty years ago)

haha is gabbneb doing his rumsfeld impression here? you betcha.

squint, (vague air of pain/annoyance), *one-handed pushup*

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:39 (twenty years ago)

hstencil, the question isn't whether or not Dems made a mistake voting for NCLB (they did), it's whether or not the program enjoys the same level of support today (it doesn't).

C0L1N B--KETT, Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:39 (twenty years ago)

although I am tempted to say that Lee Atwater would probably admire your resolve to stay "on message," I'd just be aping you.

Add a few more vagueries and I'd be aping you aping Rumsfeld.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:39 (twenty years ago)

well if that's the question colin then the answer should be to draft some new legislation!

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)

i'm not insinuating that you're a Republican. i'm insinuating that you're buying the Republican line that Williams and others are paid so well to feed to you. i mean, there's no reason to call out Williams other than buying into the "Dem party line"?!!!

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:43 (twenty years ago)

no, there's reason to call him out - all I'm saying is quit fucking pretending our side is made up saints.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:45 (twenty years ago)

No one is saying that!!! Neither gabbneb nor I (or anyone else on the thread) stood up for hte Clinton drug stuff, just noted that the Williams/Ryan stuff is on entirely different scale.

C0L1N B--KETT, Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:00 (twenty years ago)

exactly, the Williams/Ryan stuff is on a much smaller scale! $1 BN vs. $1 MM, do the math!

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:05 (twenty years ago)

Williams: 'I did a boo-boo':

Williams's newspaper syndicate, Tribune Media Services, yesterday canceled his column. And one television network dropped his program pending an investigation.


Williams, one of the most prominent black conservatives in the media, said he understands "why some people think it's unethical." Asked if people would be justified in thinking he sold his opinions to the government for cash, he said: "It's fair for someone to make that assessment."

Well well.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:51 (twenty years ago)

so he thinks selling his opinions for cash is not unethical?

Emilymv (Emilymv), Saturday, 8 January 2005 07:20 (twenty years ago)

no wonder i never heard of him:

The radio show "The Right Side," which Williams both hosts and owns, is carried by the Lynchburg, Va.-based Liberty Channel, which is affiliated with the Rev. Jerry Falwell, by Sky Angel satellite network, a Christian organization, and by Hunt Valley, Md.-based Sinclair Broadcast Group of Hunt Valley, Md.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)

http://www.wonkette.com/politics/white-house/no-armstrong-williams-left-behind-029254.php

more fun with Williams on Crossfire

kingfish (Kingfish), Sunday, 9 January 2005 01:38 (twenty years ago)

So, apparently the Clinton administration paid for a number of similar ads--http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/08/national/08education.html?pagewanted=all&position=.
Which is far worse than the anti-drug scripts and despite a few small differences (http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2005_01_02.php#004366) is clearly on par with the Williams/Ryan stuff.

C0L1N B--KETT, Sunday, 9 January 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

heh. $10 says the talking point of next week's newscycle will be ALL about the fact that they did it too.

kingfish (Kingfish), Sunday, 9 January 2005 06:28 (twenty years ago)

and i think that article actually points out that the clinton ads were NOT on par with the karen ryan stuff, as they did not actively attempt to mislead the viewer with an actual fake reporter. splitting hairs, perhaps, but if the hairs are there, so are the legal techinicalities.

Emilymv (Emilymv), Sunday, 9 January 2005 07:02 (twenty years ago)

the karen ryan ads weren't on a par with this, either. Don't lose sight of that.

It's depressing but predictable watching Clinton get wheeled into all these discussions, as a comparison to practices that pale next to this one. It's the most juvenile of "he started it" arguments. And the things he's said to have done don't even compare with this Williams business. Let's keep our eye on the ball folks.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 9 January 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

perhaps if we hadn't taken our "eye" off the ball during the Clinton admin, there'd be no need to bring it up?

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 10 January 2005 02:35 (twenty years ago)

If you want to bring up every sleazy thing Clinton did we will be here for awhile cause he was no stranger to greasing the wheels within an inch of their lives. I don't argue with that, you're absolutely 100% correct. But somehow I doubt Clinton was the first to finesse particular sweetheart relationships with the press. Or do you know something we don't? My only point here - and it's not original, it's everyone else's point too - is that this goes far beyond anything Clinton ever did. Yes, the money involved for bribing Williams is different than the money Clinton spent on press releases that read as news. But we're talking about totally different things anyway so I don't see the point of comparing dollar figures. "The ball" = the fact that the Bush admin bribed a working journalist with syndication and a column.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 10 January 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

The balls that the eye should be on are the major news organizations, who are the reason that propaganda becomes news. And I'd worry a lot less about Clinton or Bush and think a lot harder about things such as the DNC, the RNC, and the plethora of lobbyists whose advertising is accepted and complicitly used to perpetuate the propaganda.

don weiner, Monday, 10 January 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

And 95% of think tanks (and 100% of the partisan ones), whose rent-a-experts the networks amazingly assign some level of credibility to.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

And now Williams is pulling a 'hey, OTHER conservatives are doing it' explanation if not a defense. Among other folks, The NRO's Corner is duly peeved, assuming that their reputation would be besmirched. Oh dearie me.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

I encourage Mr. Williams in this line of defense.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 10 January 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

It has its advantages.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 January 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
gee, guess what ELSE was announced...

kingfish (Kingfish), Thursday, 27 January 2005 00:05 (twenty years ago)

a nice piece of the problem people have with full disclosure lately.

mentions how Tech Central Station was outed as being funded by companies the writer was commenting on, e.g. razzing on _Super Size Me_ with funding from McDonalds or how global warming hasn't been proven(thank you for the check, ExxonMobil).

...In truth, in the world of op-eds, almost everyone has a vested interest -- either ideological or financial -- in their chosen topic. Transparency is essential, but efforts to resist it continue unabated. Often a writer will submit a piece as a freelancer, even though he or she has a tie to a particular industry or organization. Only with diligent research -- and a fair amount of luck -- can an editor uncover the writer's connections. Some writers, even those from reputable think tanks, also consciously cook the books to help their case. Timpane recalls a submission from a writer arguing that there exists scientific evidence that abortion leads to higher rates of breast cancer. He would have run it, but he realized that the "science" on which this evidence was based was dubious, since the experiment lacked a control group. He confronted the writer, who admitted the science was weak, and on this basis Timpane concluded that this writer was an advocate for Christian conservatives who were more interested in pushing an ideology than in the scientific truth of the matter. Timpane barred the writer from his pages.

But many editors lack the knowledge, expertise, and time necessary to weed out those trying to deceive them, and most of the op-ed editors contacted for this piece admitted -- off the record -- that they have been fooled more than once. And that's only the ones they're aware of. When an interesting piece comes over the transom, the editor's best defense is to research the writer and his organization on the Internet, try to unearth the individual or organization's backers, ask the writer questions about his or her affiliations, and perhaps call a few other op-ed editors to see if they know anything about the writer. It's a worthwhile effort, but with increasingly sophisticated business interests and partisans trying to influence the discourse any way they can, it's often not enough. The press is in a battle with increasingly aggressive ideologues for control of what constitutes objective opinion, and, ultimately, the ideologues have the upper hand...

Kingfish MuffMiner 2049er (Kingfish), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and GEE, lookie what else gets announced.

don weiner, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

hmm. gunna be interesting to see how far that one goes.

Kingfish MuffMiner 2049er (Kingfish), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
Still going on::
March 14, 2005
The New York Times Does Some Heavy Lifting

In an exhaustive survey prepared by David Barstow and Robin Stein, the New York Times made clear on Sunday the heretofore-unknown extent of the efforts of the Bush administration to flood the airways with "pre-packaged ready-to-serve" video news releases produced by agencies of the federal government but dressed up to look like "news reports" prepared by "reporters."

In all, wrote Barstow and Stein, "at least 20 federal agencies, including the Defense Department and the Census Bureau, have made and distributed hundreds of television news segments in the past four years," aided by "widespread complicity or negligence by television stations," in contradiction to "industry ethics standards that discourage the broadcast of prepackaged news segments from any outside group without revealing the source."

In most such cases, of course, the supposed "reporters" at work do not state in the segment that they are paid shills for the government -- one more teeth-gnashing example of Your Tax Dollars at Work. Said segments often feature "interviews" with senior government officials "in which questions are scripted and answers rehearsed. Critics of any given federal program, however, are excluded, as are any hints of mismanagement, waste or controversy. (Check out our continued coverage of the wretched phenomenon.)

The Times explores "a world where traditional lines between public relations and journalism are tangled...a world where government-produced reports disappear into a maze of satellite transmissions, Web portals, syndicated news programs and network feeds, only to emerge cleansed on the other side as 'independent' journalism."

It's a world irresistible to cash-strapped, resource-starved local stations, who are thus spared the expense of actually reporting their own material, and one enabled by major networks which help distribute the video news releases, and who collect fees from both the government agencies that produce the spin and local affiliates that air it as "news."

The Times also informs us that, despite three separate rulings by the Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress that monitors government spending, that such segments constitute "covert propaganda," just last Friday, both the Justice Department and the Office of Management and Budget instructed all executive branch agencies to ignore the GAO findings and continue the business of stealth PR as usual.

The piece touches on the role of the notorious Karen Ryan, whom you've met at CJR Daily before, but who, in the larger scheme of things, turns out to be a very small apple in this very large and very rotten barrel. (One firm, Medialink Worldwide Inc., has about 200 employees, with offices in New York and London, and distributes about 1,000 video news releases a year -- nearly three a day. To put that in context, that's a larger force than the vast majority of newspaper or TV station managers have at their command. ) Though the ethics codes of both the public relations industry and the Radio-Television News Directors Association call for clear disclosure of the origin of information, the Times notes that it's not hard to find either PR firms or broadcasters who blithely ignore existing codes.

Kudos to the Times for doing the digging to reveal just how many worms, snakes and bugs are under this very large rock.

--Steve Lovelady

Posted 03/14/05 at 01:31 PM

kingfish van pickles (Kingfish), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 04:03 (twenty years ago)

http://www.stopfakenews.com/

kingfish van pickles (Kingfish), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

if the GAO can't get anything done, what the fuck do they expect the FCC to do?

Fuck the Justice Department in the ass with a rusty 55 gallon drum.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

The GAO has no teeth. Under relatively healthy political conditions, reports like this would push other parts of government into action, but now?

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

eight years pass...

(posting in full because FP makes you subscribe)

U.S. Repeals Propaganda Ban, Spreads Government-Made News To Americans

For decades, a so-called anti-propaganda law prevented the U.S. government's mammoth broadcasting arm from delivering programming to American audiences. But on July 2, that came silently to an end with the implementation of a new reform passed in January. The result: an unleashing of thousands of hours per week of government-funded radio and TV programs for domestic U.S. consumption in a reform initially criticized as a green light for U.S. domestic propaganda efforts. So what just happened?

Until this month, a vast ocean of U.S. programming produced by the Broadcasting Board of Governors such as Voice of America, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty and the Middle East Broadcasting Networks could only be viewed or listened to at broadcast quality in foreign countries. The programming varies in tone and quality, but its breadth is vast: It's viewed in more than 100 countries in 61 languages. The topics covered include human rights abuses in Iran; self-immolation in Tibet; human trafficking across Asia; and on-the-ground reporting in Egypt and Iraq.

The restriction of these broadcasts was due to the Smith-Mundt Act, a long standing piece of legislation that has been amended numerous times over the years, perhaps most consequentially by Arkansas Senator J. William Fulbright. In the 70s, Fulbright was no friend of VOA and Radio Free Europe, and moved to restrict them from domestic distribution, saying they "should be given the opportunity to take their rightful place in the graveyard of Cold War relics." Fulbright's amendment to Smith-Mundt was bolstered in 1985 by Nebraska Senator Edward Zorinsky who argued that such "propaganda" should be kept out of America as to distinguish the U.S. "from the Soviet Union where domestic propaganda is a principal government activity."

Zorinsky and Fulbright sold their amendments on sensible rhetoric: American taxpayers shouldn't be funding propaganda for American audiences. So did Congress just tear down the American public's last defense against domestic propaganda?

BBG spokeswoman Lynne Weil insists BBG is not a propaganda outlet, and its flagship services such as VOA "present fair and accurate news."

"They don't shy away from stories that don't shed the best light on the United States," she told The Cable. She pointed to the charters of VOA and RFE: "Our journalists provide what many people cannot get locally: uncensored news, responsible, discussion, and open debate."

A former U.S. government source with knowledge of the BBG says the organization is no Pravda, but it does advance U.S. interests in more subtle ways. In Somalia, for instance, VOA serves as counterprogramming to outlets peddling anti-American or jihadist sentiment. "Somalis have three options for news," the source said, "word of mouth, Al-Shabaab or VOA Somalia."

This partially explains the push to allow BBG broadcasts on local radio stations in the United States. The agency wants to reach diaspora communities, such as St. Paul Minnesota's significant Somali expat community. "Those people can get Al-Shabaab, they can get Russia Today, but they couldn't get access to their taxpayer-funded news sources like VOA Somalia," the source said. "It was silly."

Lynne added that the reform has a transparency benefit as well. "Now Americans will be able to know more about what they are paying for with their tax dollars - greater transparency is a win-win for all involved," she said. And so with that we have the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012, which passed as part of the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act, and went into effect this month.

But if anyone needed a reminder of the dangers of domestic propaganda efforts, the past 12 months provided ample reasons. Last year, two USA Today journalists were ensnared in a propaganda campaign after reporting about millions of dollars in back taxes owed by the Pentagon's top propaganda contractor in Afghanistan. Eventually, one of the co-owners of the firm confessed to creating phony websites and Twitter accounts to smear the journalists anonymously. Additionally, just this month, The Washington Post exposed a counter propaganda program by the Pentagon that recommended posting comments on a U.S. website run by a Somali expat with readers opposing Al-Shabaab. "Today, the military is more focused on manipulating news and commentary on the Internet, especially social media, by posting material and images without necessarily claiming ownership," reported The Post.

But for BBG officials, the references to Pentagon propaganda efforts are nauseating, particularly because the Smith-Mundt Act never had anything to do with regulating the Pentagon, a fact that was misunderstood in media reports in the run-up to the passage of new Smith-Mundt reforms in January.

One example included a report by the late Buzzfeed reporter Michael Hastings, who suggested that the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act would open the door to Pentagon propaganda of U.S. audiences. In fact, as amended in 1987, the act only covers portions of the State Department engaged in public diplomacy abroad (i.e. the public diplomacy section of the "R" bureau, and the Broadcasting Board of Governors.)

But the news circulated regardless, much to the displeasure of Rep. Mac Thornberry (R-TX), a sponsor of the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012. "To me, it's a fascinating case study in how one blogger was pretty sloppy, not understanding the issue and then it got picked up by Politico's Playbook, and you had one level of sloppiness on top of another," Thornberry told The Cable last May. "And once something sensational gets out there, it just spreads like wildfire."

That of course doesn't leave the BBG off the hook if its content smacks of agitprop. But now that its materials are allowed to be broadcast by local radio stations and TV networks, they won't be a complete mystery to Americans. "Previously, the legislation had the effect of clouding and hiding this stuff," the former U.S. official told The Cable. "Now we'll have a better sense: Gee some of this stuff is really good. Or gee some of this stuff is really bad. At least we'll know now."

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 15 July 2013 00:00 (twelve years ago)


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