IMPORTANT QUESTION: are hamburgers sandwiches?

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are they?

this had never even really entered my mind until i was at the diner the other week and they served me my hamburger sliced in half like a sandwich!! it kinda blew my mind!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:34 (twenty years ago)

yes.

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:37 (twenty years ago)

aha but are hot dogs.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:38 (twenty years ago)

no.

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:41 (twenty years ago)

btw - my stepdad's homemade hamburgers were so big and messy we had to cut 'em in half.

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:41 (twenty years ago)

Didn't Friendly's used to serve hamburgers on toast?

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:43 (twenty years ago)

i miss friendly's so much.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:44 (twenty years ago)

xpost - you mean like a patty melt?

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:44 (twenty years ago)

Sandwich contents are stacked vertically. That is the official rule.
Thus, hamburgers are sandwiches. So are Oreos. This is why it is impossible to eat an Oreo if it's turned on its side. If you try it, the Oreo will crumble into pieces. This is an Oreo defense mechanism, to ensure that they are eaten properly.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:45 (twenty years ago)

If hot dogs aren't sandwiches what are they? It could be a defining characteristic of a white trash person if (like me) they have used regular bread for a hot dog instead of a bun.

― Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

hot dogs are sausages.

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

I only brought it up because I know how slocki feels about Friendly's.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

even when wrapped in regular bread because you were too lazy to buy buns (I do the same thing sometimes).

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:47 (twenty years ago)

My mom uses regular bread when she is out of rolls. She is hardly white trash though.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:47 (twenty years ago)

Hmm...then she's just devoted to the eating of wieners then. SHE'S A CHRONIC WIENER EATER. (sorry Rosemary! I kow your mom is nice!).

― Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:48 (twenty years ago)

What, sausages can't be sandwiches??

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:49 (twenty years ago)

they can be in sandwiches, but they themselves are not sandwiches, no.

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:50 (twenty years ago)

SHE'S A CHRONIC WIENER EATER

We're uptight bourgeois WASPs, we don't do that sort of thing.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:50 (twenty years ago)

Well ok, hot dogs are sausages, but if you put a sausage on a bun is it suddenly not a sandwich? If it's not that's ok. I guess you could say a hot dog is a hot dog, but I seem to recall once seeing an olde-tyme ad for "frankfurter sandwiches".

― Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:50 (twenty years ago)

There totally sausage sandwiches.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:51 (twenty years ago)

sausages IN sandwiches!

blame the krauts, not me:

Main Entry: 1hot dog
Pronunciation: 'hät-"dog
Function: noun
1 : FRANKFURTER; especially : a frankfurter heated and served in a long split roll

Main Entry: frank•furt•er
Pronunciation: 'fra[ng]k-f&(r)t-&r, -"f&rt-
Variant(s): or frank•furt /-f&rt/
Function: noun
Etymology: German Frankfurter of Frankfurt, from Frankfurt am Main, Germany
: a cured cooked sausage (as of beef or beef and pork) that may be skinless or stuffed in a casing

Main Entry: ham•burg•er
Pronunciation: 'ham-"b&r-g&r
Variant(s): or ham•burg /-"b&rg/
Function: noun
Etymology: German Hamburger of Hamburg, Germany
1 a : ground beef b : a patty of ground beef
2 : a sandwich consisting of a patty of hamburger in a split typically round bun

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:52 (twenty years ago)

sausandwiches

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:52 (twenty years ago)

I don't know if I like where this thread is heading.

― Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:52 (twenty years ago)

sandages

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:52 (twenty years ago)

Someone's gonna post that picture of the guy with the tray of hot dogs with his dink in one of the buns.

― Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:53 (twenty years ago)

leave martin out of this!

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:53 (twenty years ago)

(sorry martin)

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:54 (twenty years ago)

a polish sausage is more like a sandwich than a hot dog but people don't call them polish sandwiches!

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:54 (twenty years ago)

I would gladly pay any of you next Thursday for a hamburger today.

― Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:55 (twenty years ago)

i was in a polish sandwich once.

what happens in krakow stays in krakow.

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:56 (twenty years ago)

I haven't eaten a hamburger in a year. I think I need to start ordering from Niman Ranch.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:56 (twenty years ago)

so a hot dog in a bun IS a sandwich?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:57 (twenty years ago)

no!

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:58 (twenty years ago)

why not?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:59 (twenty years ago)

semantics

― Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:59 (twenty years ago)

You are a sandwich fascist, stence.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:59 (twenty years ago)

sandwich requires two pieces of bread, unless it's a hot brown.

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:59 (twenty years ago)

you people really should be less careless with your sandwich semantics. It's important.

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:59 (twenty years ago)

a hot dog in a bun is definitely not a sandwich.

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:59 (twenty years ago)

THANK YOU MARK P.

what happens in gdansk stays in gdansk

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:00 (twenty years ago)

a hot dog is a 1/2 sandwich

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:00 (twenty years ago)

what about an open-faced messy chicken sandwich?

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:00 (twenty years ago)

so maybe a hot dog is part of the wonderful subclass of sandwiches known as BUNWICHES?!?!?!

― Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:00 (twenty years ago)

gdansk-a-dansk-dansk

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:01 (twenty years ago)

im not even sure that a hamburger is a sandwich.

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:01 (twenty years ago)

xpost - oh no, now that is some true classic gabbneb lawyering stylee.

are bunwiches some sort of canadian thing?

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:01 (twenty years ago)

yeah what about OPEN-FACED sandwiches?

or when in subway they just slice open a mini-loaf and stuff the contents therein? that's only one "slice"!! pwned

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:01 (twenty years ago)

open-faced sandwiches are still sandwiches, obv. subway subs are still a form of sandwich, sure.

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:02 (twenty years ago)

sandwiches contain multitudes.

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:02 (twenty years ago)

basically its a judgement call.

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:03 (twenty years ago)

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Burgerist

― Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:10 (twenty years ago)

okay, here it is:

a hot dog is a specific form of sausage
a bun is what you put the hot dog in
a hot dog is commonly known as what you get when you put a hot dog sausage in a hot dog bun (or even a single piece of bread if you're white trash like me and bryan)
nobody calls them hot dog sausages unless they're dorks or something

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:10 (twenty years ago)

can we have a Venn Diagram?

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:11 (twenty years ago)

nobody calls them hot dog sandwiches unless they're dorks or something, as well.

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:11 (twenty years ago)

Hmm...not bad, but I'm not sure if I'm sold on the idea of the hot dog sausage being the hot dog. I've always thought the hot dog was a union of frankfurter or wiener and bun.

― Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:12 (twenty years ago)

a hamburger patty is a specific form of meat
a bun is what you put the hamburger patty in
a hamburger is commonly known as what you get when you put a hamburger patty in a hamburger bun (or even a single piece of bread if you're white trash like hstencil and bryan)
nobody calls them hamburger sandwiches unless they're dorks or something

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:13 (twenty years ago)

qed, white castle to bishop-4, checkmate

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:14 (twenty years ago)

If you're quaint you might. Are you automatically a dork if you're quaint?

― Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:14 (twenty years ago)

I think a flowchart would illustrate my point better

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:15 (twenty years ago)

i don't think this comes out right:

http://www.venndiagram.com/graphics/1106975557.gif

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:16 (twenty years ago)

venn diagrams suck, who uses white font on white paper?

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:16 (twenty years ago)

i am so hungry.

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:18 (twenty years ago)

how about this:

http://www.venndiagram.com/graphics/1106975404.gif

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:18 (twenty years ago)

That first Venn diagram gave me a seizure.

― Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:19 (twenty years ago)

"Concurrently, Hamburg steak travelled with German immigrants to the US in the 1880s and we get "hamburger steak," then "hamburger." The timing of the bun business is not known though Panati says that by the 1904 World's Fair in St. Louis, it was already a sandwich and was also known as "hamburg""

"Supposedly, Feltman's pie business couldn't compete with the hot dishes sold by the inns there, and decided to sell one kind of small hot sandwich, the frankfurter, since his cart couldn't handle anything fancier or offer greater variety."

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:19 (twenty years ago)

language is fluid, tokyo, hasn't momus taught you anything.

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:20 (twenty years ago)

okay this is the best one yet:

http://www.venndiagram.com/graphics/1106975298.gif

just ignore the overlaps with nothing in them, they're some sort of fantasy.

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:21 (twenty years ago)

I'm choked up.

― Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:21 (twenty years ago)

http://www.venndiagram.com/graphics/1106975124.gif

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:23 (twenty years ago)

see, another reason a hamburger is not a sandwich is because you can have it without a bun and it's still a hamburger

have a sandwich without the bread and you've downshifted to cold cuts

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:24 (twenty years ago)

Where does the fishamajig sandiwch come into play?

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:25 (twenty years ago)

no mark p that's hamburger meat, not a hamburger (or burger for short).

also, cold cuts are not bread!

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:26 (twenty years ago)

fish is seafood too, bitches.

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:26 (twenty years ago)

I think you're all high!

― Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:26 (twenty years ago)

you guys suck at food.

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:26 (twenty years ago)

OMG i AM high, too.

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:27 (twenty years ago)

dude, don't make me go all polish on your ass.

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:27 (twenty years ago)

"you can read minds."

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:27 (twenty years ago)

heavy.

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:29 (twenty years ago)

I'm tempted to make a BK run.

― Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:30 (twenty years ago)

better take a car instead, it's -7 in your town.

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:32 (twenty years ago)

weather.com doesn't give celcius, sorry.

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:33 (twenty years ago)

-23. Yeah, and they tend to frown on guys trying to just walk through the drive-thru.

― Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:33 (twenty years ago)

i have a funny story about my friend doing that once, at a kfc in brooklyn. he was getting his food, and this car behind him honked his horn. so he yelled "whatchoogonnadoaboutit, bitch?" two big guys came out of the car and were about ready to stomp his ass. lucky for him, some po-pos rolled by and broke it up.

same night, he was walking down his street, talking on his cell phone. some dude walks by and sez "cell phone faggot!" real loud so my pal decks him and runs! weird.

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:38 (twenty years ago)

I just made myself a couple of fried egg sandwiches. Soon I will get to listen to my roommate fuck her boyfriend. I LOVE MY LIFE.

― Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:49 (twenty years ago)

dude, i got stoned and ate too much lasagne, i'm basically garfield. wanna trade?

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:52 (twenty years ago)

Yes please, though there may not be much to listen to here as I think the bitch just puked all over the bathroom.

― Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:58 (twenty years ago)

Are "pita sandwiches" sandwiches? I vote "maybe."

If pita sandwiches are sandwiches, then a hot dog is a white-bread pre-pita pita sandwich, perhaps.

(Or perhaps not, he says equivocally.)

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 8 January 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

promote pitas to sandwichdom and you will have gyros to answer to, and after that, falafels. so no, pitas are pitas.

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

Pitas break the "items stacked (exclusively) vertically". When building the pita, you have a choice of stuffing it with the pocket facing up (and therefore the stacking is horizontal), or laying it on its side (stacking vertical). The same is true when you eat it. Therefore, it's not a sandwich. The same goes for gyros and doners.

But I'm having some trouble making a decision about fajitas, burritos, and other circular wraps. The symmetry of these items suggests that they are sandwiches, according to the above rule.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 8 January 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

falafels are sandwiches!! when you order them in this town (they SUCK in this town btw), you gotta ask for a "falafel sandwich" or you just get the balls

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 8 January 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

er... so to speak

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 8 January 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

Is a sandwich-inna-baguette ('sub', is it called?) a sandwich?

― cis (cis), Saturday, 8 January 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

of course

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 8 January 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

if someone says it isn't, i'm going back to bed

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 8 January 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

nicka needs to post that pic of the fat dude with the helmet on eating that huge burger. also, everything was invented at a world's fair.

― chaki in charge (chaki), Saturday, 8 January 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

the term "submarine sandwich" - redundant?

― Kim (Kim), Saturday, 8 January 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

from the department of redundancy department.

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

Mostly unrelated topic - is anyone else bothered by the way the Mr Sub franchise has started calling some of the sub "companion" meal items by the term Mrs? as in "Mrs Soup"?

― Kim (Kim), Saturday, 8 January 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

It's madness. Next move - to retitle beverages "Life Partners"? Desserts of course being a little extra marrital action...

― Kim (Kim), Saturday, 8 January 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

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