What browser do you use: 2005 edition

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I'm totally dedicated to Firefox myself, and have been for months. What I'm really curious about is: who's using IE 5? Netscape 6? Anything old and scary like that? I know you're out there. Fess up.

Side question: is IE for Mac not being developed anymore? Panther still comes with IE 5.2, which is only going to encourage people to use the bloody stupid thing.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

Firefox.

luna (luna.c), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

until there is a plugin that makes firefox entirely like safari, im gonna keep using safari.

:| (....), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

Not yet, but there's a Firefox plugin for everything else you've ever thought of, and quite a lot you haven't.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

Fiiiireefoooooooox.

Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

Firefox. Only because it's named after the film though. Otherwise, I would use IE.

KeithW (kmw), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

Firefox at home.

Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

Firefox

C0L1N B--KETT, Monday, 10 January 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

Why the fuck do people try to use Safari over firefox?

LSD ARISTOCAT (ex machina), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

Firefox

Stevem On X (blueski), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

why is firefox better than safari? i like safari

phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.hypertext/msg/395f282a67a1916c

teeny (teeny), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

Firefox. I use it at work while everyone else uses IE. This means that I don't have to deal with puh-orr-enn pop-ups anymore.

I use at home as well. Safari won't tell me the progress of the page downloading on the bottom like Firefox does. I like tabs, too.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

safari has tabs

phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Firefox

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

i use opera.

t0dd swiss, Monday, 10 January 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

Firefox since 0.6. Also set it up for my parents when they (finally) ditched AOL and got a real ISP. I included one of the stock ticker extensions so they could watch the price of the two (2) stocks they own rotate every five seconds. It's like a video fireplace โ€” they watch it all day.

After the last Firefox update, I get a java error when I try to go to Yahoo Games rooms, so I keep Safari on the dock for playing Literati.

I Am Curious (George) (Rock Hardy), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

Netscape 7.1
Don't Ask.

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, but I have to. Is this a work-imposed thing?

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

ghostzilla

ken c (ken c), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

Nope. Just a near-dead laptop that doesn't seem to want to install or run IE or any other fancy-pants browsers, but for some bizarre reason, Netscape works fine. OK, I could probably muck around and fix all this, but I simply can't be bothered...

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

I'm sorta curious about this Firefox love, Safari's never given me any trouble (and lord know I love tabs).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

Firefox has tabs, dude!

Anyway: Firefox at home, IE 6 at work. (I haven't quite felt comfortable at this new job to download a whole new browser yet.)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

Only reason I like firefox more than safari is 'type-ahead find.' It lets you select a link (or text) without having to search for it or click on it. Then you can just hit enter and the link will activate. For us carpal tunnel types (too much starcraft, you know) it's a life-saver.

57 7th (calstars), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

another emphatic vote for firefox.

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

I've said it before: the main reason I prefer Firefox to Safari is that the latter just looks thin and chintzy somehow.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

*bemused* I like the look myself! Curious.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

I would love to use Firefox, but it just stopped working on my laptop at home. It opens and simply won't connect to any websites. Oh, it would probably work if I re-installed it, but I'm just too lazy.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

xpost It's simple, elegant, and very Apple-y, for sure. Nowadays, though, my geeky self can't live without a thousand and one toolbars.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

I use Opera on PCs, Safari on the PB. Last time I tried FF on OS X (.8 maybe) it was slow and clunky and not really OS X consistent. Opera is like FF with all the plugins I want already installed.

W i l l (common_person), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

firefox on windows, safari on my mac

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

Opera is a better featured browser (this may be different now actually, given the amount of extensions for the latter) and looks nicer, but Firefox is free (no ads that is), and has better support for dodgy websites that don't bother to follow standards.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

firefox at home. IE at work but i know our IT department are assessing firefox so who knows, mebbe I'll be using firefox all the time soon.

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

I don't know what one i use because i am not a geek and i have a life. Maybe you should get one.

Francine Dee, Monday, 10 January 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

hahahahaha

Thanks for that. You're one of my customers, aren't you?

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

I'm trying to convince my boss that we need to switch to Firefox. It should only be a matter of time.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

does the Pinefox use Firefox?

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

i'm scared of firefox! it's a killing machine! and clint has it!!

http://www.spiralupdatenews.com/firefox.jpg

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 10 January 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

"The most devastating browsing machine ever built."

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 10 January 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

Firefox at work, safari at home, I'd probably use firefox at home as I like some of the plugins and RSS support, but the interface is awful by mac standards, and konfabulator replaces some of the plugins that I like.

Ed (dali), Monday, 10 January 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

whats konfabulator?

phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 10 January 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

opera 8 beta

a banana (alanbanana), Monday, 10 January 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

Home: Firefox
Work: IE 6

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 10 January 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

konfabulator puts useful little widgets floating about the screen. The search one is very good, better than safari search as one can use multiple engines.

http://www.konfabulator.com/

Has been nicked by apple as Dashboard for OS X 10.4

Ed (dali), Monday, 10 January 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

Safari at home, Firefox at work. I didn't even realize there was a Mac version of Firefox, so I guess I've been living under a rock.

Is there a Safari RSS bookmark plug-in? If not, could you write one?

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 10 January 2005 22:23 (twenty years ago)

Also I am geek enough that I check the websites I create to make sure they'll work in Lynx.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 10 January 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

haha... so do I. It's a good way to check page structure, actually.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 10 January 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

RSS will be a feature of the next version of Safari although it's not as good as firefox's implementation I don't think.

Ed (dali), Monday, 10 January 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

Firefox at work, Firefox at home. Though no-one's explained to me in more than one syllable why tabbed browsing is better than having lots of browser windows open.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 10 January 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

I want to be able to read ILX in my bookmarks, basically.

Mark: Because with tabs you don't have lots of browser windows open. Duh!

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 10 January 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

My least favorite thing about Safarai is that it - still - is impossible to "Undo" typing in text fields like the one I'm typing in right now. So if you Select All and hit the wrong key, or just make an errant mouse movement, you can wipe out everything with no way of getting it back. It's weird and disappointing because I thought OS X had a kind of standard text technology that was distributed across all its applications. You'd think OS X's flagship internet product would be able to Undo.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

My favorite Firefox plugin is DownThemAll. The ultimate mass web downloader.

Be great if it worked with 1.0. But it doesn't.

Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 06:19 (twenty years ago)

have the cmd-down people tried rejigging their key bindings? this page says there are bugs in the area but i'm not sure about current status.

http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html#key_example
there is a 'cmd_scrollBottom' that you can map a given key to.

(not done this myself - the end and home keys work on w2k)

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)

Mosaic 4ever

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

I've got Down Them All (and Turbo DTA) running in 1.0 no probs...

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

Safari + the Pith Helmet plug-in

All Safari users need PithHelmet

Gator Magoon (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

I note and will download.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

Yeah... I use Firefox, though I have almost every other browser installed both at home and at work for site testing purposes.

Though no-one's explained to me in more than one syllable why tabbed browsing is better than having lots of browser windows open.

I don't actually know for sure if it's threaded differently by the OS, but in my experience multiple windows slows the machine down more than one window with multiple tabs.

I use IE with the Google toolbar - which blocks popups and gives me Google search anytime. At work I use 6.0, but at home I downgraded to 5.5 because it's more stable on Win98. Why I still use Win98 is another story.

I have a machine at home that is running 98SE and has been since that OS was current. Firefox is faster than any version of IE on that machine, and it's more stable than IE 6 or IE 5.x. (Again, I use this machine to test sites I've built, so it actually has multiple versions of IE installed on it.)

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

I just wanted to say I did indeed install PithHelmet per Gator's recommendation and it's most sweet.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 January 2005 01:02 (twenty years ago)

Be great if it worked with 1.0. But it doesn't

Does so! I didn't even install it until after I upgraded to 1.0! I then immediately downloaded the entire 365 Days Project in less than an hour, with only a few clicks.

J (Jay), Thursday, 13 January 2005 01:11 (twenty years ago)

Hmm, okay I'll give it another go. Thanks guys.

Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 13 January 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)

http://starstarstar.net/Firefox.jpg

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 13 January 2005 01:49 (twenty years ago)

Is that a cock and balls?

Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 13 January 2005 01:53 (twenty years ago)

if you think firefox is ugly, get a new theme

LSD ARISTOCAT (ex machina), Thursday, 13 January 2005 01:58 (twenty years ago)

been using firefox for about two months, feels like IE but with easier cache control and tabs,nice. I don't do much fancy stuff w/ browsers so I haven't run into any conflicts or plugin problems yet.
I get a taste of netscape 4.7 when I get on my mom's mac(OS 8.6), overstuffed but still not a bad program

tremendoid (tremendoid), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)

Does Safari have a BugMeNot plugin?

You don't need one, just add this as a bookmark

javascript:void(window.open('http://bugmenot.com/view.php?mode=bookmarklet&url='+escape(location),'BugMeNot','location=no,status=yes,menubar=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,width=385,height=450'))

Gator Magoon (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 13 January 2005 04:35 (twenty years ago)

seven months pass...
firefox at work (PC)

safari at home (mac)


thank god for safari aquifier

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 11 September 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

Firefox

Crackity (Crackity Jones), Sunday, 11 September 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

what's bugmenot?

Wiggy (Wiggy), Sunday, 11 September 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

www.bugmenot.com
BugMeNot.com was created as a mechanism to quickly bypass the login of web sites that require compulsory registration and/or the collection of personal/demographic information (such as the New York Times).

Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Sunday, 11 September 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

Revive! I just read that Opera (what was the premium version) is now free!

http://stuff.techwhack.com/archives/2005/09/21/200918-opera-software-makes-opera-browser-free/

Wiggy (Wiggy), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 00:31 (twenty years ago)

Yup. And I just switched from Firefox to Opera.

M. V. (M.V.), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 00:37 (twenty years ago)

I'm a sandwich shy of a picnic on this - I just barely got Firefox. Are you liking Opera better? Or does it remain to be seen, MV?

Wiggy (Wiggy), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)

I've made it look as much like Firefox as I could, Wiggy. But it loads more quickly and is supposedly more secure. The original (c. 1999?)Opera had all sorts of page compatibility problems, but I haven't found any yet with version 8.5.

M. V. (M.V.), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)

I'll give it a shot, since Firefox WILL NOT WORK for me. I've downloaded umpteen times, checked configuration and it just doesn't load website. Any of them.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 00:50 (twenty years ago)

Jordan, do you have Norton 2005 Internet Security on your computer? It can deny Firefox net access without letting you know that that's what it's doing.

M. V. (M.V.), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 04:11 (twenty years ago)

Firefox, Opera, and Lynx.

Sadly, i'm also expected to make sites that work with IE5.5. So after writing beautiful xhtml & css that validates like a dream, i have to go back and break it to render in Internet Exploder. Yay Me!

leonard hatred, Monday, 3 October 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)

Wiggy, et al: Pop3 mail is integrated into the Opera browser. The first time you compose a message and try to spell-check it, you're directed to the GNU Aspell project website. Install their spell-check program and--voila--Opera not only spell-checks outgoing emails, but (on right-click) most highlighted text as well. This message, for instance.

M. V. (M.V.), Thursday, 6 October 2005 01:34 (twenty years ago)

All freeware, btw.

M. V. (M.V.), Thursday, 6 October 2005 01:36 (twenty years ago)

I love Firefox so much more, but my computer really seems to prefer Opera. Right now Firefox is taking up 270MB of RAM with 3 tabs open -- soon I'll have to kill and restart it -- and Opera is sipping 65MB with 18 tabs open. But Opera keeps forgetting my autocomplete URLs, and doesn't do inline find, and doesn't have neato extensions, and doesn't open new tabs in the background by default, etc etc.

Paul Eater (eater), Thursday, 6 October 2005 02:13 (twenty years ago)

Opera is supported by advertising unless you pay for it, isn't it?

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 6 October 2005 02:27 (twenty years ago)

Nope. Totally free and sans banners as of version 8.50.

M. V. (M.V.), Thursday, 6 October 2005 02:31 (twenty years ago)

No, its totally freeware now! xpost

Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Thursday, 6 October 2005 02:32 (twenty years ago)

I want Opera to be successful enough that it's kept current, obscure enough that hackers won't bother with it.

M. V. (M.V.), Thursday, 6 October 2005 02:35 (twenty years ago)

M.V. Thanks for the marvelous news! I canโ€™t wait to have a decent spell check! I am the worst at typing and it gets WAY out of hand when I try to type fast; for instance when typing here! I will help support Opera by downloading it straightaway!

Wiggy (Wiggy), Thursday, 6 October 2005 03:53 (twenty years ago)

opera doesn't do inline find?? ctrl-f???

W i l l (common_person), Thursday, 6 October 2005 04:57 (twenty years ago)

Wow, I'd switch to Opera if I wouldn't feel totally k-lame using it. (old prejudices are hard to change)

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 6 October 2005 05:05 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
did you regret your decision? i hope not, its easy to change browsers if you feel you made the wrong choice. and whats right for 2005 might not be right for 2007

and its 2007 right now! yes it is! does your browser have that special 2007 feeling?

i dont think my firefox has that 2007 feeling, and i haven't really gotten with flock in the way i thought i might

im sure some of you will have browsers that are just perfect for march 2007 though

688, Thursday, 1 March 2007 11:09 (eighteen years ago)

Safari + Stand + Acidsearch does it for me. I wish creammonkey was compatible with greasemonkey though.

Ed, Thursday, 1 March 2007 11:44 (eighteen years ago)

I use Firefox on the laptop at home but Pam insists on using IE7; I use IE6 at work as neither IE7 nor Firefox are fully compatible with the online database that our department has to use every day.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 1 March 2007 12:02 (eighteen years ago)

Not sure yet, neither Firefox or IE7 are cutting the jibe with me at the moment - IE7 crashes at least once a day and Firefox isn't compatible with half the sites I visit.

I think I may delve into the Opera arena once more

Ste, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

seven months pass...

oh my gosh, omniweb is sick

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 18 October 2007 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

haha rong

Catsupppppppppppppp dude ่Œ„่•ƒ, Thursday, 18 October 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

the way tabs are handled isn't so great

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 18 October 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

Charging for a web browser: So 2005 minus 10 edition.

libcrypt, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

ugh. also either carpal tunnel is finally kicking in or the shortcut setup is really fucking with my hands.

i keep having to tuck my thumb under my left hand to reach FN for keyboard scrolling.

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

I installed Office 2008 and suddenly, all the numerals in Safari have zero width, at least in some font.

libcrypt, Saturday, 20 October 2007 02:30 (eighteen years ago)

oo where did you get that from?

stet, Saturday, 20 October 2007 02:35 (eighteen years ago)

Demonoid.

libcrypt, Saturday, 20 October 2007 02:55 (eighteen years ago)

Restarting Safari fixed it.

I'm kinda annoyed that Office 2K8 still has carbon components, tho.

libcrypt, Saturday, 20 October 2007 02:57 (eighteen years ago)


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