motivating yourself/cynicism etc

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One of my New Year's resolutions this year, and really the most important one, I think, is to cease dwelling on negative aspects of work related stuff, like the quality of other peoples writing, or the way my work is subedited, and just concentrate on working harder myself and doing more work. It's bloody hard though.

I can't escape sensations that having ideas or principles are actually a burden to me, or caring about what you do is more a problem than an advantage. I mean I look around at successful people in journalism or DJing or promotion or anything like that and mostly they seem to be those who wouldn't let a point of principle or honesty stop them from doing something. Don't you ever get that sense that somewhere inside these people must be laughing at all those principled idiots who actually let their ideas and convictions about stuff get in the way of their achievement or ability. Then I guess there's some people who succeed because they don't even realise there is more to achieving than success or whatever.

And this all just turns me sour on work and career journalism stuff, it makes me waste energy on criticising others which I could use for propelling myself forward, and I am sort of directionless as a result.

I look around at the less successful people, in whatever area, that I know and they're all good people. I think that their failure is almost certainly to do with the fact that they too had ideas and did things in a different way and treated what they did with a sort of reverence, and where the fuck did it get them?

I mean, all the above aside, how do you stop yourself thinking negatively like this and just focus on doing your best with your own work, be it writing, DJing, promoting or whatever the career?

I don't want to waste away whatever talent I have because I keep dwelling on other peoples work, in a sort of "I'm better than that and yet they're the ones getting printed way". It's just crushing negativity but I can't seem to get around it or over it.

Perhaps I'm using this as a sort of crutch, spoiling the entire system for myself before really giving it a chance, I don't know.

So far my plan for this year, as soon as I finish exams, is to make some proper plan for my weeks, to really organise myself to do work. I know that's what I have to do, but has anyone got any other advice or anything to add?

I mean, many of you know me fairly well, and can probably see how the above manifests itself.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Why do you have principles?

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Be specific about what your principles are, and, coversely, what success is. Give links if necessary.

Miles Finch, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 11:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i know it's hard Ronan but my inner child is yelling 'stick to your guns' louder than the voices of doubt. hopefully there's a line between tactical alliances and sucking up to people you do/don't like to get ahead. i don't know why anyone would have a problem with your writing itself.

Stevem On X (blueski), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 11:31 (twenty-one years ago)

as with most artforms there's always the sense that the real talent (at least the fresh, raw uncomprimising talent) is always underneath the radar. people (but which people?) are hopefully more conscious of that now with the web. i'm not sure what your aspiration/ambition really is with writing but i assume you don't just want to preach to the converted. where are you currently at with what you actually want Ronan (unless you'd rather not make it much about you yourself)?

Stevem On X (blueski), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm only half understanding what you're getting at here Ronan. Are you saying you get put off working hard because other people are stopping you getting there? Or is it that you are put off because you don't have faith in your own work?

I think I may have to make a similar resolution to start being more tenacious with my ideas and ambitions. I get a good idea or I get it into my head one day that I'd like to do something but as soon as I've had this idea I start thinking about the obstacles and difficulties (e.g. "not enough money/resources/money", "don't know enough about what I want to do in order to implement it").

So yeh, rather than sitting down and working out and researching what I need to do and how to do it I just shove the idea to the back of my mind along with the other slowly fading "good ideas" I seem to get.

But the other day I had a wicked idea - totally foolproof and original and it's something I know I can and will be able to do given a little time. I just have to remember not to dwindle on these things and stop automatically going on ILX every time I hit a wall.

Don't know if this has anything to do with what you were talking about Ro.

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 11:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I am put off working hard because I am not sure I wouldn't be more successful if I worked in fields I don't care about as much as music, or if I wrote about rock acts or something, where I'd have no personal investment.

That's what I mean by principles, personal investment, feeling there are some personal rules of your own you wouldn't want to break. Isn't it true that the most successful people just don't have these rules? They seem to be able to do what they want. I actually didn't want to make this specifically a writing thread cos maybe it's more generally applicable an issue for others.

Perhaps I'd be more successful working in an environment where I could point myself towards success and not give a shit about anything else, there are so many of these. I might even enjoy it.

Success for me would be getting regular paid writing work, but I'm not going to pretend to like stuff to do that, and that seems to be a persistent nagging requirement. Even beyond being given the usual shitty interviews which are just ads for some guy I don't even like, there's the simple fact that if I liked different music to the music I do like I would be ten times more successful than I am now.

I actually think, and this might sound arrogant, that I could create an alias and write about rock records which I don't even like and I'd come to be seen as a better rock writer than plenty of people who do like the records.

But this thread isn't so much "how should I achieve my goals", I think I recognise that negativity is my biggest problem and am wondering how people cope with that. How do you focus more on your own game and ignore others, even when at every juncture this seems difficult.

I mean, I pick up the things I write for and if something is crap beside what I've written it annoys me, if they subedit my stuff and change a sentence it drives me mental, and often ruins the enjoyment of getting the thing printed in the first place. perhaps it's particularly bad subediting!

anyway as I said, it's not specifically music writing I want to talk about, the problem is my motivation and attitude. If I start to scapegoat the business or the other people I'll just spend another 2 years doing relatively nothing.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

success for me would also=being happy, the achievement or definition of that is obviously part of the question too!

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)

having exactly the same problem as doglatin describes re ideas but lack of knowhow/time/resources - but have made SOME in-roads lately - the other problem is the amount of different ideas and things worked on, as if i have to have ten different things on the boil so that if nothing does result then i can just use the ol' 'unrealistic in the time given/over-ambitious' excuse again.

Stevem On X (blueski), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

dude. you want to work in jobs that are about promoting lifestyles to the socially aspirant. i hate to lay this on you man, but the only people who aspire to be losers hanging out on the internet all day are here already, and we don't have to pay to read your stuff.

bengo, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)

good advice.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, I pick up the things I write for and if something is crap beside what I've written it annoys me

This is probably something of a horizon you need to cross! I'm not really talking about being pragmatic even, just willing to accept that yours is not the one true faith.

Miles Finch, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I think so, but how?

It's not so much a one true faith thing, I can disagree with something and think it's good, but sometimes it isn't even a matter of opinion, it just seems like bad writing, and you wonder does anyone who reads magazines even notice the difference.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 12:41 (twenty-one years ago)

this thread is sort of awkward for me, I guess I am saying yes I can be very arrogant about my stuff, but what's the best way out of this or the best way to positively channel this, or how do you avoid negativity?

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)

hahaha! my hunch is the only people who notice the names at the bottom of the reviews are people who will one day want to write. as for the opinions contained therein -- lord knows.

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Miles Finch, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the thing with writing (yeah I know sorry) is that that sixteen-year old kid who thinks that Fitzgerald guy's a really good writer and got into Chelonis thanks to him or something, well, you just have to imagine he's there, he's never gonna say hi in the street. There's no reason you SHOULDN'T write rock reviews under a different name, though, it's a good idea and good practice! Just that you won't have the same joy in imagining that kid, maybe? I mean, you're a smart guy, you've had a posh education, there's nothing to stop you selling lifestyles to the socially aspirant or whatever, and earning more than hacks who write worse than you, so like just think about why you do what you do I guess? And if it seems lame, stop for a bit until it seems urgent?

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

That made no sense but I haven't slept for like twenty hours and I just got accused of stealing a book from the library despite the fact that I obviously haven't slept for like thirty hours, which should blatantly stand up in court as a "temporary insanity" defence.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I want a posh education!

cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i. (obv) sometimes you have to zig in order to zag

iia. work for a year at one "thing" and look back: you'll think jeez i got nowhere = i suck
iib. work for ten years at one "thing" and look back: you'll think WOW look at all that = i rule

iiia. victory in the head = ethos
iiib. victory in the room = tactics
iiic. victory in the world = strategy

iva. don't treat yr topics or yr tactics or even yr strategy w.reverence, in fact you get more fun being flexible and/or contrarian-playful on all three, so as to be able to sidestep boredom, disgust, frustration etc to live as you prefer
ivb. ethos seems like the smallest but learning to trust it (ie when you can trust yr own) is the BIG THING
ivc. structure of a life = like structure of an article; all the darts you send up have to come down
ivd. i got the idea for ivc from a roadrunner cartoon; iia&b wz said to me once by a guy i went to college with; at the time he wz editor of a trade mag for management consultants (which is like astrology for CEOs)

x. the first time you do something you don't think you'll like, you may learn stuff you didn't know about yrself
y. the tenth time you do stuff you KNOW you don't like you are wasting time
z. the 20th time ditto ditto ditto you are stuck in a groove (and not in a good way)

my personal line on bad editing = entropy rules the universe anyway, by the law of randomness the mutation will sometimes be an improvement you can't see (haha also i became a professional proof editor and sub editor)

my personal line on bad bedfellows: if the review next to mine is v.rub then MINE LOOKS BETTER THAN IT MAY ACTUALLY BE!!

arriving at ILM allowed me to talk in real time to ppl who had read and liked stuff i had written in like 1983!! ie more than twenty years before!! 100,000 ppl were buying NME weekly back then (so 300,000 readin it, by the fake law of circulation vs readership all mags like to invoke), but what wz so exciting was that ONE NON-ROCKWRITER PERSON (in fact it was duane) had read it WELL and remembered it. OK that dart spent a LONG time in the air but the pay-off of its landin back on my head wz - well, it made up for all the times i wrote something and no one seemed to have even noticed.

OK another time someone came up to me at something and said "are you mark s? that piece you wrote on sonic youth CHANGED MY LIFE!!" - urk i still wake up trembling over this: what did i write, and how much better wd his life have been had he never read it :(

aged 23-30 i wz often intensely angry and depressed abt how rubbish the media i had idolised as a teen wz to work for: i wz lucky, bcz there were others who felt the same and noticed me and used me when they wanted to do something abt this (=r.cook at the wire, basically)

i just today (it's true!) ran into one of the nme high-flyers of those bygone days: actually a good stylist, but a guy w.no discernible ethics at all - he has reasonably good access to grown-up (non-rock) papers and mags, to write these days, but despite his semi-meteoric flight at the time, he's got no ideas these days what he wants to do (well he's just abt to publish a book - "it's about me!" - but no idea what to do after that)

i'm sure he earns a LOT more than i do, but i'd *way* rather have had my life than his

(this is all a bit of a victorian self-improvement lecture - apologies for that: my mum's advice to me, when i went off to college, wz "do whatever you like, so long as yr happy"; this kinda expands into ivb for me: BOREDOM IS YOUR BEST FRIEND, eg the one that is pointin out yr major halitosis when all other so-called friends are sayin nothin except behind yr back)

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)


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