Torture may be used in certain cases, says outgoing US head of homeland security Tom Ridge

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And since every terrorist obviously carries nukes, well hey!

I vaguely appreciate his honesty.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 January 2005 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

and http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4171177.stm

Alsi, Saturday, 15 January 2005 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

It certainly suggests the orders for abuse and torture in cuba,afghanistan and Iraq HAS come from the top. Whilst saying the guilty soldiers acted on their own.

Alsi, Saturday, 15 January 2005 03:31 (twenty-one years ago)

do keep up Alsi

j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 15 January 2005 03:34 (twenty-one years ago)

What I mean J, is that its the closest we've had to official confirmation of it instead of the usual "guilty parties acted of their own accord".

Alsi, Saturday, 15 January 2005 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)

The only way I can keep this from ruining my faith in everything is to think of that scene from Teenagers From Outer Space, chortling for a moment, then going back to feeling miserable.

What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Saturday, 15 January 2005 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)

TORCHA!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 January 2005 05:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeahhh, torture motherfucker what?
(Torture nigga what?)
What?
I'll fuckin
I'll fuckin tie you to a fuckin bedpost
with your ass cheeks spread out and shit
Right?
Put a hanger on a fuckin stove and let that shit sit there
for like a half hour
Take it off and stick it in your ass slow like
Tssssssss

Yeah, I'll fuckin
Yeah I'll fuckin lay your nuts on a fuckin dresser
Just your nuts layin on a fuckin dresser
And bang them shits with a spiked fuckin bat
Ooooohhhh
Whassup? BLAOWWW!!

I'll fuckin
I'll fuckin pull your fuckin tongue out your fuckin mouth
and stab the shit with a rusty screwdriver, BLAOWW!!
I'll fuckin

I'll fuckin
I'll fuckin hang you by your fuckin dick
off a fuckin twelve sto-story building out this motherfucker

I'll fuckin
I'll fuckin
sew your asshole closed, and keep feedin you
and feedin you, and feedin you, and feedin you

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 16 January 2005 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Gee, Mr. Ridge. I'm just wondering out loud, but wouldn't here political assassination also be justified on the same grounds? I mean, sometimes political assassination could save tens of thousands of lives!

For example, for the sake of argument, let's assume a certain sitting President of the USA were contemplating invading and occupying a country, and killing upwards of 100,000 people in the process, but (NB: here's the catch) you knew the reasons for the invasion were wholly specious and false?

Wouldn't it be okie-dokie to cap that bastard? Purely to save thousands of lives, of course.

I tell you what, Mr. Ridge. Don't answer quickly. Think about it first. OK, everybody, surf's up!

Aimless (Aimless), Sunday, 16 January 2005 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)


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