I do have a feeling of tourist guilt - here I am going to some places to enjoy myself where so many people are in misery. I'm hoping to volunteer or help wherever is appropriate, and I'm sure the affected countries appreciate my tourist money when so many other people have probably cancelled trips. I'll also be trying my best to make sure that my spending goes to locally-owned businesses, rather than tourist traps owned by wealthy outsiders. Anyway, here's my plan:
Jan 27 - March 14: Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, CambodiaMarch 14 - 24: Melbourne and whatever else is around thereMarch 24 - April 26: Indonesia, Malaysia, and finally Singapore.
I would really appreciate any tips/advice from ILXors who have experience travelling in these places. I arrive in Bangkok first. I already have my Thai visa and the electronic Australian visa. I'll get the others in Bangkok, which I'm told is much easier. I also have the ubiquitous Lonely Planet "Southeast Asia on a shoestring", which seems to be pretty good.
So, whaddya say?
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)
― lukey (Lukey G), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)
also the tiny Santosa island of Singapore - the southern most point of Asia.. just so that you can say you've been there. (even though the fact that you can see indonesia(?) right across the sea kind of ruins it)
― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)
What are you interested in doing? Lazing about or cultural pursuits?
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 20 January 2005 01:31 (twenty years ago)
So, I must arrange for some kind of FAP drinkies for us all, and/or maybe we can sit about and have some g4nj and watch weird B grade horror movies or.. I dont know, I am terrible at playing tourist guide.
― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 20 January 2005 01:36 (twenty years ago)
Mary - I'm hoping to do a lot of both: lazing and cultural pursuits. Ideally, I want to spend as little time as possible in cities - I want to be out in the country, staying in villages, doing treks, river tours, etc. Obviously I'll have to be in cities at some point (Siem Reap, and probably Chiang Mai and Saigon too), so any tips are welcome!
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 20 January 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)
loving bangkok so far. i have to stick around a few more days to get some visas, then i'm off to chiang mai. i have to resist the urge to buy more bootleg CDs from a dude nearby that has what seems to be EVERYTHING.
can't wait to get out of the noise and the pollution, though.
still planning on being in melbourne on march 15...
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 31 January 2005 06:37 (twenty years ago)
― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 31 January 2005 07:28 (twenty years ago)
― bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 31 January 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)
― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 31 January 2005 07:53 (twenty years ago)
The South overall isn't as impressive. If you skip Saigon, you're not missing much. I didn't warm to that place at all.
― Seuss, Monday, 31 January 2005 08:02 (twenty years ago)
how long are you in bkk for? you should go to this bar i dj'ed at. its called Q bar off of sukhumvit, or however you spell it. its nice. good drinks and lots of non-hooker thai girls, if you're into girls, which i remember you as being. also, if you go to phnom penh, see if you can find people to stay at the Top Banana hostel. its the best place ever. the owner is a young guy who's super cool. every night if there were enough people into it, he would gather the entire hotel and go to a club and party, and buy us all drinks, and as people got drunk and needed to pass out, he would drive them back to the hostel then come back and party more. and bottles of cambodian whiskey were so so so cheap.
and at angkor wat, pay the extra money to go hire a bike driver to take you to the temple in the far northeast - the river of the thousand lingas and the other one. so worth it. though its bumpy ride. and dont go to the jungle without malaria pills because my israeli friend did and got malaria, and at the hospital i had to call his parents in tel aviv and had to tell them that their son got malaria and to send money. they were mad.
― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 31 January 2005 08:21 (twenty years ago)
― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 31 January 2005 08:36 (twenty years ago)
I don't think I'll be flying much, and I don't plan on going to Vientiene unless I have to - I'm heading to Luang Prabang in the north via the slow boat, which I'm told is a pretty good time.
You've all got some pretty good tips there - thanks! I'll write more when I get out of Bangkok and I'm getting closer to Vietnam/Cambodia...
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 3 February 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)
bulbs - i am going to sydney! that is, if you count sitting at sydney airport for 2 hours... and i'll be getting my mekong on pretty soon. instead of doing overland into laos, i'm doing the slow boat from the thai border town (chiang khang i think) right to luang prabang along the mekong. it's a bit of an adventure from chiang mai, but i'm up for it. i've heard so many mixed things about the slow boat (takes 2 days with an overnight stop in a village), mainly because i think there are different types of boats, and some are shitty. but from what i can gather, this is still a good option. the speedboat is much faster, more expensive, but life-threatening, so i'll pass on that.
suess/phil - yeah, i'm looking forward to hanoi. a big thanks to ilxor's own pete b, for giving me a friend's details who lives there. local tips are always good... i'm not that fussed about saigon/hcmc either. i may only go there if necessary to get to cambodia.
get this - i'm walking along the street the other day, minding my own business, and i hear my name called. sure enough, it's a dude who i haven't seen in about 8 years, who i used to work with. how he recognised me i'll never know. he lives in siem riep now (working with the canadian consulate and the landmine museum - he's also a hardcore photographer who has seen and done some crazy shit). anyway, i'll have someone to hang with in cambodia. bizarre. as stephen wright once said: it's a small world, but i wouldn't want to paint it.
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Saturday, 5 February 2005 06:04 (twenty years ago)
i ain't comin to sit in an airport lounge with you tho! take an extra stdney day and col and i will entertain you though!
― bulbs (bulbs), Saturday, 5 February 2005 08:12 (twenty years ago)
― phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 5 February 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 25 February 2005 07:31 (twenty years ago)
anyway, hanoi is cool. sadly i can't stay long, and i'm off to cambodia on sunday. i'll try to stay at that top banana place... after angkor wat i'll probably go for a little beach time down at sinoukville(?) - i'm told serendipity beach is pretty nice, and nowhere near as built-up as the thai beaches...
after that - australia! watch out, you melbourne types - i'm coming to the streets of your town...
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 25 February 2005 07:35 (twenty years ago)