What would you do if your boss sent you this?

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This e-mail was sent to me by one of my former students who also happens to be a church minister.

It certainly makes you think!

david

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In light of the many perversions and jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke, it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.

Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?" (regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).

Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.

And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?"

In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK.

Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school ... the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says.

Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing.

Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.

Are you laughing?

Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they WILL think of you for sending it. Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us.

Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it... no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process, don't sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!

― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Point size 24, bold, italic, no irony.

― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I would ask him politely to remove me from his circulation list for any non-work group emails.

― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Let him know that as God I find his lack of humor fairly boring.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Or alteratively spam him with huge volumes of porn and add 'WE REAP WHAT WE SOW'.

― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to get these on a semi regular basis, usually about children who wrote wonderful insightful things and then died. Hmm, funny that. I wondered what to do about it, but thought : "Best just sigh and leave it at that".

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

you know your boss better than us: do you think you were meant to think 'wot a nut' or 'hmm, yes, cogently put'?

― Miles Finch, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Archel, I wish I was that clever! That way I could avoid all the pictures of obese women in ill-fitting dresses too :( It's too late, I've sent an email that said "David, I find this really quite offensive". I can hardly believe my own daring!!

― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

You could send him the link to the God FAQ.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

well done!!

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Other crimes:
- Putting a tray of bacon rolls in front of our one muslim member of staff and telling her to help herself at the last staff development day
- Talking in a very loud voice with his office door open about personnel matters to a member of staff on long term sick so we could all hear. Then telling every member of staff to please come and talk to him about any issues we have, even if they're personal, we can trust him!

His surname is F3nton, which almost rhymes with BRENT.

― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

xposts to everyone.
Yeesh. I don't know what I would do, but getting this message in a work context would bother me a lot. I'm not sure whether it would bother me because the boss had thought to forward it to colleagues in the first place, or whether the boss had specifically picked me out as an appropriate recipient.

I mean, It certainly makes you think! about what exactly? the fact my boss may be judging me on qualities irrelevant to my work? I dunno. If this really happened I can totally see myself just ignoring it but not forgetting about it. What did you do Madchen?

― sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Nicely done with the response, Madchen. :-) An alternate answer could simply note that sending mails about spiritual matters has nothing to do with your work (assuming you don't work at a religious institution), and that you'd not prefer to receive any further forwards along this line. Then save/print the mail for future reference should this continue (stranger things have happened with it comes to human resources issues).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes well done. I don't mind getting the occasional wishy washy God-bothering email but that one was especially creepy and threatening.

― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

xposts again, I'll echo the well dones.

― sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

i hurt my toe the other day after thinking an impure thought. cause and effect people, cause and effect.

anne grahams 'profound' response shows zero awareness of such relevant biblical passages as the book of job. moron.

― debden, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, Madelyn Murray O'Hair's bizarre murder had little to do with school prayer and a lot to do with greed.
And Dr. Spocks' son?
http://www.snopes.com/medical/doctor/drspock.htm
You could tell your boss to do his own research sometimes.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, we have reply:

"Sorry, Lucy!! It was not meant to be offensive - more thought provoking!"

Keeping a light tone with the exclamation marks, there. I realise I shouldn't be posting the text of somebody else's emails but really, fuck him.

(ps. Tuomas, that page is great!)

― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Archel, I wish I was that clever! That way I could avoid all the pictures of obese women in ill-fitting dresses too :(

your boss sends you pictures of obese women in ill fitting clothes, you said OK.

Now we're asking why your boss is sending you humourless religious doctrine.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Grr, one of those "sorry if you were offended" type responses.

x-post

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

In spirit with the original message, I'd add:

"I never forward "perversions", and rarely jokes I get through e-mail, usually because they are not funny."

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

what a chud! i'd seriously worry but what can you do? if you took it personnel they'd only lock you in, cut the lights, and chant 'one of us' before guiding you to ritual sacrifice.

― Miles Finch, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

First I ignored the obese women, because I was not an obese woman...

― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i think this is a good point. I'm pretty sure Islamic extremists took down the World Trade Center because we don't teach prayer to a Christian god in our schools. It makes sense! Think about it!

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

and lucy you should totally save this email, so that next time he forwards you obsene jokes and pictures, send this back to him with the note "i thought this made you think"

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

my spelling there was obscene. :(

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't worry, I have it filed away very carefully. I may not need to do anything with it though because he sent it to everyone in the department, including the director. The guy really didn't see anything wrong with it (see also the bacon roll incident for example of utter cluelessness). Director out this afternoon and she's discreet enough to keep any discussions with him quiet.

― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I bet it provoked a few thoughts!!

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I might also point out that too much God in government was one of the main reasons for 9/11 -- i.e. fundamentalist Islam.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

"It certainly makes you think!"

Hahaha it makes me think he's an idiot. I'd definitely speak to his supervisor if he was my boss (this is far from workplace appropriate.) I'd definitely keep this and any other correspondence which was similarly inapproapriate in a little file somewhere for litigational purposes.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, it made me think... about kicking your ass!

Did I mention I hate people who say that the jews deserved the hollocaust? This is the same mentality. God works in mysterious ways. Ick.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Remember how I reacted to Bush winning the election? Well, I feel pretty much the same way about this.

You could always tell him that what he sent is so full of contradicitons that a) it makes no sense and b) is an insult to god's name.

Or, you could just murder him. If he's right and you're wrong, he'll go to a better place, and he'll certainly never encounter you again.

Oh, and suggest to him that if God only listens to and does the bidding of those who don't believe in him, how should that make his faithful subjects and their devotion and prayers feel?

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

"Did I mention I hate people who say that the jews deserved the hollocaust?"

Wow, you're really taking a stand there, Sarah.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.

Are you laughing?

hee hee. this reminds me of Marissa Marchant's screeds...

― kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, God smokes all those no-talents on major labels!

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

A street preacher on the subway yesterday got on a roll about how for all we know he could have a bomb right now and are we ready for Jesus. The cops arrested him next stop.

― Snappy (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Shift Delete

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Madelyn Murray O'Hair's bizarre murder had little to do with school prayer

Make that "absolutely nothing to do with school prayer," and you have a true statement.

― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe some people don't have the right to complain,

as much as they do.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, come now. An avalanche of uninformed opinion is what makes this country great!

― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

...great for bombing!

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

which one?

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I just hate any kind of e-mail forward. I'm on someone's e-mail list, which goes out every Wednesday, wherein she asks a "Question of the Day!" and most of the 25 or so people respond. Most of them know each other, I know one of them, so my inbox is flooded with people tossing in-jokes back towards one another about people I don't know I don't want to know (based on what I've read). I suppose I could just beg off the list, but I am very lazy.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Forward them all to the midget.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

For some reason, the email forwards from my family bug me the most. I hate being reminded that people I'm closely related to are enthusiastically engaged in the most annoying internet activity there is, apart from spam. It makes me feel sad and dumb.

― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

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