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First Amendment no big deal, students say

WASHINGTON -- The way many high school students see it, government censorship of newspapers may not be a bad thing, and flag burning is hardly protected free speech.

It turns out the First Amendment is a second-rate issue to many of those nearing their own adult independence, according to a study of high school attitudes released Monday.

The original amendment to the Constitution is the cornerstone of the way of life in the United States, promising citizens the freedoms of religion, speech, press and assembly.

Yet, when told of the exact text of the First Amendment, more than one in three high school students said it goes "too far" in the rights it guarantees. Only half of the students said newspapers should be allowed to publish freely without government approval of stories.

"These results are not only disturbing; they are dangerous," said Hodding Carter III, president of the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation, which sponsored the $1 million study. "Ignorance about the basics of this free society is a danger to our nation's future."

The students are even more restrictive in their views than their elders, the study says.

When asked whether people should be allowed to express unpopular views, 97 percent of teachers and 99 percent of school principals said yes. Only 83 percent of students did.

The results reflected indifference, with almost three in four students saying they took the First Amendment for granted or didn't know how they felt about it. It was also clear that many students do not understand what is protected by the bedrock of the Bill of Rights.

Three in four students said flag burning is illegal. It's not. About half the students said the government can restrict any indecent material on the Internet. It can't.

"Schools don't do enough to teach the First Amendment. Students often don't know the rights it protects," Linda Puntney, executive director of the Journalism Education Association, said in the report. "This all comes at a time when there is decreasing passion for much of anything. And, you have to be passionate about the First Amendment."

The partners in the project, including organizations of newspaper editors and radio and television news directors, share a clear advocacy for First Amendment issues.

Federal and state officials, meanwhile, have bemoaned a lack of knowledge of U.S. civics and history among young people. Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., has even pushed through a mandate that schools must teach about the Constitution on Sept. 17, the date it was signed in 1787.

The survey, conducted by researchers at the University of Connecticut, is billed as the largest of its kind. More than 100,000 students, nearly 8,000 teachers and more than 500 administrators at 544 public and private high schools took part in early 2004.

The study suggests that students embrace First Amendment freedoms if they are taught about them and given a chance to practice them, but schools don't make the matter a priority.

Students who take part in school media activities, such as a student newspapers or TV production, are much more likely to support expression of unpopular views, for example.

About nine in 10 principals said it is important for all students to learn some journalism skills, but most administrators say a lack of money limits their media offerings.

More than one in five schools offer no student media opportunities; of the high schools that do not offer student newspapers, 40 percent have eliminated them in the last five years.

"The last 15 years have not been a golden era for student media," said Warren Watson, director of the J-Ideas project at Ball State University in Indiana. "Programs are under siege or dying from neglect. Many students do not get the opportunity to practice our basic freedoms."

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 03:18 (twenty years ago)

Content biter

Jimmy Mod always makes friends with women before bedding them down (ModJ), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 03:20 (twenty years ago)

incredibly frightening.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 03:25 (twenty years ago)

Pretty fucking disturbing, but I'm curious how much this differs from previous years.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 03:31 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i don't think i valued free speech that much in high school either, come to think of it.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 03:34 (twenty years ago)

I'm incredibly disturbed that I know more about the consitutional rights of an American than most Americans do themselves.

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

i happen to have the consitution in book form. handy!

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 03:36 (twenty years ago)

Wow that much lack of student media? I thought that was one of those integral things, student papers. Very bloody sad.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 03:45 (twenty years ago)

the supremes have ruled that students don't really have a right to free speech in school-funded newspapers.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 03:48 (twenty years ago)

Diana Ross is a bitch.

Frogman Henry, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 03:50 (twenty years ago)

http://static.userland.com/sh4/images/cuwu/supremes.jpg

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 03:52 (twenty years ago)

I already posted this to the underwear thread

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)

Someone had better tell these future retail cashiers that they have the right to say whatever they want!

Site Admistrator (deangulberry), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)

I already posted this to the underwear thread

Duh. I knew I should have looked there for postings on freedom of speech issues first.

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 04:01 (twenty years ago)

unless you were talking about the picture.

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 04:03 (twenty years ago)

I'm curious about the exact questions they were asking, some of those student responses sound odd. Or perhaps I'm just GROWING UP AMIDST FASCISTS.

My high school didn't have a newspaper. It used to, but apparently someone wrote something the administration didn't like and it got shut down.

Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 04:11 (twenty years ago)

My high school didn't have a newspaper. It used to, but apparently someone wrote something the administration didn't like and it got shut down.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1945000/images/_1948502_boys2ap300.jpg

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 04:14 (twenty years ago)

all this does is prove why the bill of rights exists in the first place. if everyone thought free speech was hunky-dory it would be redundant!

ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 06:27 (twenty years ago)

Hunky Dory, it behooves me to add, is protected by the First Amendment. Though David Bowie is not a citizen, his record company is.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 06:32 (twenty years ago)

this IS religion's fault, btw. i don't care what anybody says.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 06:33 (twenty years ago)

I don't think you're allowed to say that.
And if you are, it's obviously a mistake and we should fix that.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

latebloomer sounds like a negative nelly. Time for re-Neducation.

Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

Ahem.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

OHH YOU'RE IN FOR IT NOW!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

It's a Flanders reference Mr. Raggett. Is there some kind of Ned mafia/union?

Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

thirteen years pass...

https://www.freedomforuminstitute.org/first-amendment-center/state-of-the-first-amendment/2018-report/

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:12 (seven years ago)

Love it when Zach de la Rocha really tears into the thread title toward the end of that song.

Melted Belts, Priced To Move (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:20 (seven years ago)

The students who took the survey in OP are now eligible voters and have been for over a decade. Might this explain anything we've seen happening over that period?

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 16 August 2018 17:25 (seven years ago)


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