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Kilroy goes solo with Veritas launch

Matthew Tempest, political correspondent
Wednesday February 2, 2005

Britain's newest political party, Veritas, was launched today on a populist platform of "straight-talking" and defending the country against asylum, immigration and multiculturalism, under former chatshow host Robert Kilroy-Silk.
In a 15-minute debut speech to reporters at Westminster, Mr Kilroy-Silk lambasted Tony Blair and Michael Howard as "liars" and said his new party would be looking for the votes of those who had "been made to feel ashamed of their culture and being British".

Mentioning only "mass immigration and uncontrolled asylum" as policy areas, the former TV star and MEP - now on his third political party after spells with Labour and Ukip - bordered on ranting as he repeatedly dismissed the entire British political establishment as liars, before saying the British public were "tired of yah-boo politics".

With only Mr Kilroy-Silk and ex-Ukip London assembly member Damian Hockney so far signed up as the public face of the party - which hopes to replace Ukip as the home of the anti-EU vote - the new leader did not explain who would fund his "straight-talking" party, or how many candidates it would put up at the next election.

Unrolling a scroll of paper symbolising the "lies and broken promises" of the mainstream parties, Mr Kilroy-Silk said: "The British people are fed up of being lied to, talked down to and patronised.

"They are tired of yah-boo politics. They are tired of paying obedience to the norms of 'multiculturalism', tired of being ashamed of their culture and being British.

"We are different. We will listen and engage in a conversation with our compatriots. There is a magical mood out there for change.

"No more lies, evasion, spin."

Despite making no mention of any policy platform beyond asylum and immigration at today's launch - the MEP promised there would be "detailed policies" laid out over the "next few days and weeks".

In the meantime, Mr Kilroy-Silk accused the prime minister of "still lying" over asylum, saying: "We have now lost control of our own borders. A country without control of its own borders is no longer a sovereign state.

"Mass immigration is a very serious problem, as is uncontrolled asylum. Have you ever been asked about that? I know I haven't.

"It's another deception - don't they know they've been rumbled?"

Mr Kilroy-Silk left the BBC last year after an Express column penned by him described Arabs as "limb amputators and women-oppressors" who had contributed nothing to world culture.

He then joined Ukip, standing for and winning a East Midlands seat as an MEP last June, and helping the party to its highest profile and most successful campaign ever, where it won 12 seats in Brussels and two on the London assembly, before acrimoniously leaving the party at the end of the last year after a failed bid to launch a leadership coup.

Disillusioned members of Ukip have nicknamed his new party "Vanitas" in sly tribute to Mr Kilroy-Silk's permanent suntan.

Labour was scathing about the new party. Fraser Kemp, campaign spokesman, said: "Veritas joins an already crowded field on the right of British politics.

"The difference between the policy of the Tories, Ukip and Veritas is primarily one of degree.

"And in terms of personalities, the choice between Michael 'Poll Tax' Howard, Robert Kilroy-Silk and Roger Knapman is not likely to excite anybody."

Miles Finch, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

"Very Toss"

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

They are tired of paying obedience to the norms of 'multiculturalism', tired of being ashamed of their culture and being British.

On the one hand you want to laugh, but it's scary thinking that some people believe this shit.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

Did they just pick them name out of that "interweb rebranding machine" thingy?

The Phantom of the Operating System (kate), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

a populist platform of "straight-talking" and defending the country against asylum, immigration and multiculturalism

So it's the BNP with extra tan, then.

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

He has just been on Richard and Judy. I didn't watch it, I just thought what a racist tosser. He is trying very hard to be considered normal, but it won't wash.

Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

'magical mood'

dave q (listerine), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

You'd think that their Latin name might remind them of this country's extremely long 'multicultural' history, but apparently not...

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

Archel, OTM.

Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

Is it snobbish to think that a latin name might get in the way of the populist platform?

Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

I don't know about Britain, but Veritas over here in the Ireland is a chain of religious bookshops. I'm sure Silky doesn't care about that, though.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, Harvard's legal department's gonna kick they asses...

Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

Why does the Financial Times own the veritas.co.uk domain?

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

ihttp://home.att.net/~portia.gage/Veritas.jpg

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

Haha "veritas" what a fucking l@ym0r.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

I mean, daily mail readerz = a minority of thee uk electorate, right?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

"veritas splendor"

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

"veritas fuckwytte"

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

I'm rat-arsed, I'd better logoff.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

website launched:

http://www.veritasparty.co.uk/

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 3 February 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

I didn't watch it, I just thought what a racist tosser.

I'm not defending Kilroy in any way, but thinking like that can be incredibly dangerous.

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)

Having looked at the Veritas website, its manifesto is about as racist as Australia's now-defunct One Nation party; and a hell of a lot less racist than the current Australian government, which in recent years has made world headlines treating refugees and asylum seekers like utter shit.

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

They haven't even bothered to spring for a proper website.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)

British website design, best in the world! :)

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)

Taking Sides: Pete Doherty's crack habit vs Robert Kilroy-Silk's crack habit.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

Adam at least our govt encourage immigration, though! This guy is full on saying he's against any immigration and multiculturalism. Any govt in Aus who dared try that would be shot to pieces.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

(immgration and asylum are different issues).

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

Yeah Trayce you're right. Although Ruddock calls asylum-seekers 'queue-jumpers', so he's not exactly one to arbitrate the difference.

Kilroy isn't against immigration, he wants it controlled better. Why is beyond me; Australia [particularly Melbourne] is awesome thanks to its multicultural society.

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

In other words he's definitely propagating racist principles, but I've seen worse in action here.

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, same. Still, this is a UK issue so we better shut our yaps ;)

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:05 (twenty years ago)

No way! We've lived through it all with One Nation and the Howard government, so we're effectively the prototype for this Veritas thing.

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:07 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
Kilroy the charmer hands out a lesson in canvassing

Robert Kilroy-Silk arrived in Long Eaton, between Nottingham and Derby, in an old Volvo painted in lurid shades of mauve and purple. The general belief among the liberal London media is that Mr Kilroy-Silk is himself a lurid, not to say tasteless and disgusting individual, who deserves to be pilloried.

But while Mr Kilroy-Silk clearly has his weaknesses, including egomania leading to an inability to get on with colleagues, it would be wrong to allow these to obscure his strengths. He is very good at canvassing. As he walked down a pedestrianised shopping street he put a smile on the faces of most of those he accosted. He knows how to charm these members of the white working class, and is quick to sense how they are feeling. They enjoyed recognising him from his television programme, and were amused by his banter, much of which sounds better than it reads. Take Mr Kilroy-Silk's sally after asking for the vote of an old man with a stick: "Don't say no while I've got the TV cameras on me. Otherwise I'll get that stick and wrap it round your neck."

Mr Kilroy-Silk switched to a soft, insinuating, almost soppy tone: "What worries you about this country? We've had our country stolen from us, haven't we?"

The old man corrected him: "We're giving away our country piecemeal."

Long Eaton is in the Erewash constituency, held for Labour by Liz Blackman, who has made little impact either nationally or locally, and many Labour voters say they are determined to vote against the party this time.

It is hard to tell who the main beneficiary will be, but none of these discontented Labour supporters mentioned the Conservatives, who came second last time by nearly 7,000 votes. One man said he would vote either for the Greens or for Mr Kilroy-Silk, who since breaking with the UK Independence Party has set up his own tiny party, Veritas. Ukip is also standing in Erewash.

Two black men asked Mr Kilroy-Silk: "What do you bring for us?" He replied: "Straight talk. Telling the truth. End immigration."

One of the men, Bill Gonsalves, who left St Vincent in 1961, gripped Mr Kilroy-Smith by the hand, leading the candidate to joke: "He won't let go of my hand. Are you gay? Leave me alone. I want to go home" - the last two phrases uttered in his little-boy voice.

Mr Gonsalves said he is distressed by "these illegal bloody wars" and added after Mr Kilroy-Silk had left: "I enjoy watching his programmes on telly; I can only wish him all the best. I've been voting for the Labour Party since the time I was in St Vincent. I could never vote for them again."

He intends to vote for the Liberal Democrats, "because people like Charles Kennedy protested against the war".

Readers who are repelled by Mr Kilroy-Silk's vulgar sentimentality and never watch the kind of television at which he excels may find this hard to credit, but to many members of the working class he is a glamorous figure.

A self-employed man, who voted Conservative last time, said: "He's very like the president of America. He gets on with it. That's the kind of man we want. He's a bit like Bush, he is. Mind you I like Tony Blair in a way. I'd get rid of immigrants. We don't need too many people over-crowding this country."

A middle-aged woman ran out of a small shop with a look of delight on her face and said to Mr Kilroy-Silk: "Keep going. All the best." After he had gone she said: "I think he's fantastic. Because he tells the truth."

Asked what truth she meant, the woman replied: "The truth about immigration. I don't want to say anything more about that."

Another man came up to Mr Kilroy-Silk and said: "I'm a fan of yours." Mr Kilroy-Silk called out in boyish excitement: "I've found one, I've found a fan."

This playful side of him goes down well.

Mr Kilroy-Silk knows how to press the flesh. For his opponents in the political establishment he poses something of a dilemma: they cannot be as hard-line about immigration as he is, nor can they match his soft, ingratiating tone. Labour's working-class support is crumbling, but it does not look like it will go to the Conservatives.

Slumpman (Slump Man), Sunday, 24 April 2005 21:54 (twenty years ago)

We don't need too many people over-crowding this country.

How are we going to over-crowd the country without them?

Onimo (GerryNemo), Sunday, 24 April 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

oh we'll manage

Slumpman (Slump Man), Sunday, 24 April 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

he's a bit of an enigma

Masked Gazza, Sunday, 24 April 2005 22:23 (twenty years ago)

but to many members of the working class

Blair's fallacy - to imagine that the establishment believed in the end of class-based politics as much as he did.

Dave B (daveb), Sunday, 24 April 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

Kilroy-Silk running Harvard = wacky japes!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 April 2005 02:28 (twenty years ago)

I'm sad because I was hoping the thread was about this place

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 25 April 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

"Veritas" is written on the single for New Order's "Ceremony".

Ian Riese-Moraine has a grenade, that pineapple's not just a toy! (Eastern Mantr, Monday, 25 April 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)


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