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Someone once said I was interesting, too. So ask away. Yes, you too can be a part of the magical, fascinating world of Rainbow Bum.

rainbow-bum (Rainbow-Bum), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

can I get nose herpes from doing lines off strangers' erections?

Snappy (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

I don't know. You might get it from Nasal sex, though.

rainbow-bum (Rainbow-Bum), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Am I being an irresponsible citizen if I don't watch the evening news because I find it depresses me so much?

sugarpants (sugarpants), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

Also, be very gentle with the razor when cutting lines on strangers' erections. Otherwise penile pain induced berzerkness may ensue.

xpost

Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

The evening news has subliminal messages to make you join the Church of Scientology, so it's OK if you don't watch it.

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Sorry folks, I'm going to bed now. No more answers for today.

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Are you married to Rainbow George?

Bumfluff, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Need the zero divisors (including zero) of a three-dimensional real associative algebra necessarily form a finite union of planes and/or lines in three-space (if not all of three-space itself)?

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

What do people mean when they use the word "organic" to decribe the abstract arts?

Snappy (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

Are you going to post on the underwear thread?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

Where did I put my pen?

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

Dear Bumfluff: I'm not married. I'm a bum, silly.

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

Dear Beanz:

The answer is provably “Yes!” if the algebra is further assumed to possess a multiplicative identity element. “Yes” also appears to be the answer under several different sets of weaker hypotheses, although proofs have not been found. We will discuss each of these variations on a common theme shortly, but first briefly sketch out necessary definitions.

Let R denote the field of real numbers. Let A denote an R-algebra, that is, A is a vector space over R together with a bilinear map

A × A ---------------> A
(x, y) ‌--------------> x · y

known as vector multiplication, which satisfies r(x · y) = (rx) · y = x · (ry) for all r ∈ R and all x, y ∈ A. Let

Z = {x ∈ A : x · y = 0 for some nonzero y ∈ A}

be the set of left zero divisors of A. Note that we consider 0 ∈ Z which is uncustomary. Define A to be

* m-associative if there exists an m-dimensional subspace S of A with the property that (y · x) · z = y ·(x · z) for all y, z ∈ A, for all x ∈ S

* tame if Z is a finite union of subspaces of A.

It clearly follows that

* a 2-dimensional, 0-associative algebra is necessarily tame

whereas

* a 4-dimensional, 4-associative algebra need not be tame (consider the algebra of real 2-by-2 matrices).

What can be said about the tameness of 3-dimensional, m-associative algebras, 0 ≤ m ≤ 3?
3-dimensional, m-associative algebras

On one hand, a 3-dimensional, 1-associative algebra need not be tame, as exemplified by R³ together with the following vector multiplication:


Zero Divisor Structure in Real Algebras, 1

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Left zero divisors (a, b, c) are precisely those points for which the matrix


Zero Divisor Structure in Real Algebras, 2

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is singular, i.e., for which the determinant a · (a² + b · c) = 0. The solution set of this cubic equation is obviously not a finite union of planes and lines in R³. This example is new, as far as I know.

On the other hand, we conjecture that a 3-dimensional, 2-associative algebra is necessarily tame. A proof is known only for the special case in which the algebra is 3-associative and possesses a multiplicative identity element. The proof goes as follows. An algebra as such must be isomorphic to one of the following:

R × R × R, C × R, R × R[X]/(X²), R[X]/(X³),
R[X,Y]/(X², X · Y, Y²) or T

where C denotes the field of complex numbers and T is the algebra of upper-triangular real 2-by-2 matrices. There is an elementary proof of this classification theorem. The left zero divisors constitute a finite union of subspaces for each of the six representative R-algebras. Hence the original R-algebra via isomorphism must be tame.

Extensive computer work confirms the correctness of this conjecture. A more thorough report will come at a later time. For now, we describe what lies beneath the calculations. A 3-dimensional, 2-associative algebra gives rise to a natural linear transformation

μ : R³ ---------------> R3 × 3

satisfying

μ(μ(y) (x)) = μ(y) μ(x) for all y ∈ A, for all x ∈ S

Without loss of generality, assume

S = {s · e1 + t · e2 : s, t ∈ R}

where {e1, e2, e3} is the standard basis for A. Taking x = e1 above and matching polynomial coefficients in y-components, one obtains 27 homogeneous quadratic equations in 27 unknowns. The unknowns here determine the value of multiplication in A. The same happens when taking x = e2 and there exist dependencies among the net 54 equations which can be removed. Here are the quadratic equations (in original form). Random sampling of equation solutions is equivalent to random sampling of 2-associative algebras. Clearly

Z = {x ∈ A : det(μ(x)) = 0}

hence the components of a zero divisor x must satisfy a certain homogeneous cubic equation. So for a fixed random 2-associative algebra A, one can readily sample four independent zero divisors at a time and determine whether they are coplanar. Conversely, one can fix the form of the expression det(μ(x)) and attempt to find a corresponding 2-associative algebra A. These methods suggest that 3-dimensional, 2-associative algebras are always tame.

3-dimensional, alternate algebras

An R-algebra A is alternate if

(x · y) · y = x · (y · y) and (x · x) · y = x · (x · y)
for all x, y ∈ A.

(Reference: R. D. Schafer, An Introduction to Non-Associative Algebras, Academic Press, 1966; MR 96j:17001.)

Methods similar to the above suggest that 3-dimensional, alternate algebras are always tame as well.

Finite-dimensional, commutative, associative algebras

An associative R-algebra A is commutative if

x · y = y · x for all x, y ∈ A

For a finite-dimensional, commutative, associative algebra A with identity, the set Z is the union of the maximal ideals, of which there are finitely many. (Reference: M. F. Atiyah and I. G. MacDonald, Introduction to Commutative Algebra, Addison-Wesley, 1969; MR 39 #4129.) This is much more than is needed to deduce that A is tame.

Is the existence of the multiplicative identity optional for tameness to hold? Can the assumption of commutativity be weakened? No computer work has been done here for n>3.

It is always puzzling in mathematics when several different sets of hypotheses imply the same conclusion. One feels that there ought to be a general framework of which the above are only special cases.

Observe that the zero divisor structure proof for 3-dimensional, 3-associative algebras with identity rested on a classification theorem. This, in my mind, seems inelegant. There should be a way to demonstrate tameness without the full strength of a list of isomorphism classes. Indeed, it may be essential to find such a way in order to attack the 3-dimensional, 2-associative or alternate cases.

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

wow! will you have nasal sex with me?

Snappy (sexyDancer), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

Dear Snappy, an excellent example of abstract art that can be described as "organic" is the Toilygraph. It uses a technique of combining dyes while flushing a toilet.

See explanation here: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/8/prweb152182.htm
And here is a picture gallery.
http://www.arodphoto.com/Toilygraph1LR.html

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

Dear Ned Raggett, sorry, I don't wear underwear because I need freedom for my beautiful bum.

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

Dear Beanz, you pen may be in a pocket with your dirty laundry. Better find it or your stuff might turn blue in the wash!

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

Dear Snappy: no, try a prostitute. Look for a coke whore with a perforated septum.

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

All flirting aside, Rainbow, when people say "organic" in the arts, they really mean a synthesis between the decision-making human factor and the non-linear aspects of nature? Is this what the "organic" (as in "life") really is? or are people trying to define a type of "organizing" utilising chaotic forms by bending inherit meanings in the word?

Snappy (sexyDancer), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

Well Snappy, I think the most bestest meaning is when the artwork was created through methods that allow chaos, chance, free association or automatism, rather than pre-planned, with rigidly controlled methods and a predictable outcome.

Thank you and goodbye until tomorrow!

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

Thanks very much rainbow bum.

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

Thank you, Rainbow, but now I'm wondering if flowers are "organic" anymore. That shit's pretty fucking predictable.

Snappy (sexyDancer), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm.... well, remember to wear a condom during nasal sex, or you might get nose herpes!

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

Well Snappy, I think the most bestest meaning is when the artwork was created through methods that allow chaos, chance, free association or automatism, rather than pre-planned, with rigidly controlled methods and a predictable outcome


Isn't that more like the hallmarks of the fluxus movement?

kate/papa november (papa november), Friday, 4 February 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

'most bestest'

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 4 February 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

fuck nose.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 4 February 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

Well, I was thinking more of abstract expressionism, but fuck an art critic. Sometimes I like to paint and draw cartoons and shit, but I don't really know what organic is supposed to mean.

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Friday, 4 February 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

Futhark and perhaps, Etruscan, are essentially derived from Greek script, right?

Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 4 February 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

Well Mike I had never heard of Futhark until you mentioned it. That's a pretty damn cool name for a language. I wish I could say I was literate in Futhark. Well, for your enjoyment, here's a picture of a viking ship!

http://www.legends.dm.net/art/viking_ship_gordon_grant.jpg

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Friday, 4 February 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

well well well. Does anybody know the word for unneccesary interjections in speech?

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Friday, 4 February 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

um...

Snappy (sexyDancer), Friday, 4 February 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

Pleonasms?

Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 4 February 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

No, that's not it.

Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 4 February 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

http://www.alanpotter-publicart.com/Pagemill_resources%201/Andover%20Web/W-Andover%20viking.jpg

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Friday, 4 February 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

Dear Snappy,

http://www.alanpotter-publicart.com/Pagemill_resources%201/Andover%20Web/W-Andover%20viking.jpg

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Friday, 4 February 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

oops

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Friday, 4 February 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

Dear rainbow bum,

Who has the best qualifications to call himself head of the Royal Family of France?

Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 4 February 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

Dear Michael,

Hmm, let me think about it for a minute.

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Sorry, not a fucking clue!!!

On the other hand, if you want to know anything about proper trimming of facial hair, I can help. I have a book called "1,000 beards" that shows you how!

Look at this one!

ihttp://www.beards.org/beard002a.jpg

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Sunday, 6 February 2005 02:03 (twenty years ago)

goddammit!

ihttp://www.beards.org/beard002a.jpg

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Sunday, 6 February 2005 02:05 (twenty years ago)

what the fuck. This shit won't post pictures. OK never mind.

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Sunday, 6 February 2005 02:08 (twenty years ago)

seven years pass...

if you're so smart how come you didn't know how to post pictures rainbow bum?

"in this super-sexy postracial age" (forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 April 2012 02:00 (thirteen years ago)

Did you find this thread whilst looking for rainbow or bum?

StanM, Friday, 27 April 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

for "hi" actually

"in this super-sexy postracial age" (forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 April 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)


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