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Just talk about it. Let's see if this film, this eighties movie, is SO CONTROVERSIAL the moderators can't handle this thread.

Scariest film on ILX? Pretty in Pink.

― Film Frank, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

Fact.

― Film Frank, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

All of her lovers
all talk of her stench
and the perfume that covered her scent
And isn't she easy
And isn't she
Pretty in stink
The one who insists
he was first in the line
is the last to recover his sense
He's walking around
in a daze like a drunk
She is gone but the stench remains
LYSOL DOUCHE
-- Tep (icaneatglas...) (webmail), January 23rd, 2005 9:31 AM. (ktepi) (link)

― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

the most controversial films of recent times, judging by length and weight of discussion on ILX are probably Kill Bill, The Passion of Mel Gibson and Lost In Translation - maybe Faranheit 9/11

― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

http://www.uweboll.com/

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)

Did they have three consecutive threads about them removed because the author pointed out that Pretty in Pink tells it like it is?

Best film about women ever.

― Film Frank, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

Eh? PIP shows us that the nice guy, if he's noble, still gets his reward. I think thats pretty cool. Dude the film was All About the Ducky.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

Stuff the whole girl/wrong side of tracks/money thing.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

bitches love money, eh, c-man?

― Snappy (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

Trayce, I trust you realize who Frank is.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

She goes with the guy who has cars and money and is sickeningly smooth but rich and cuter than Jon Cryer so why not eh? Even though he's a bit of a jerk and has crap friends and listened to his mate at one point. Jon Cryer lost out cos he wasn't sexy or rich enough.

That's Pretty in Pink.

Best film about women ever.

― Film Frank, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:23 (twenty years ago)

Best film about women ever.

you obviously have not seen Steel Magnolias. get out.

― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

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― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

And Jon Cryer does "Give a little Tenderness" in the record shop but oh no it's not good enough for her cos he's not got a big red fucking car.

― Film Frank, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

yeah, but Jon Cryer is GAY.

― Snappy (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

Seriously.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

I laugh at people who complain about Molly Ringwald's choice in this movie because she was never, ever, ever attracted to Jon Cryer in the film. Like, not even a little bit. People focus on the money thing and ignore the fact that Jon Cryer was cast as Ducky because his face looks like a duck's butt.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

And the whining, etc...

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)

Dan OTM, he was the classic Friend Only. Also, he scored hott chicks at the end, why does everyone miss/forget that! He wins (for being nice? I dunno).

Ned I know it's Calum, and his point ;) I think its amusing he seems not to have really got the film. Eh.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)

http://www.rotovibe.com/images/spader1.jpg

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

THANK YOU for bringing sanity to this thread, Spencer.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

James Spader was cast because his face is shaped like a hatchet and all evil people in movies have hatchet-faces.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

That's why they're so cool.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

No, fuck it, you don't get it. McCarthy is gonna treat her like crap - Ducky is the nice guy. Like one female critic said, "The girl still goes with the wrong guy at the end, which is a lesson that most men better learn early in life".

― Film Frank, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)

I thought you were writing a profile about a movie somewhere. Did that end?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

Are you sure you aren't confusing "Pretty In Pink" with fecal porn?

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

Ned what are you on?

― Film Frank, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Movie/8427/james44.jpg

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)

Dam youve already proven by your Team America thread that your attempt to read a film is null and void.

― Film Frank, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)

"The girl was, is, and will always be nada!"

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

Damn you Dam!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)

"When my best friend's conversing with a mutant, you know, I'm curious. That's no reason to get defensive."

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)

I always preferred the original version of the theme song for both the slightly processed sound of Richard's vox and for that great analog synth sound(it WAS analog, right?). Even if the melody was cribbed from the VU.

the rerecorded version for the movie had that shit-ass sax in it, with a crumbier video...

― Kingfish MuffMiner 2049er (Kingfish), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)

(an apt quote, in this case!)

x-post

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

Any more Spader here and I'll have to get Stripey onto this thread.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

GHOST O' DAMN PERREY

― Site Admistrator (deangulberry), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

BEST LINE IN THIS AMAZING MOVIE????

Steff's girlfriend: You're in my calculus class.

Andie: Gym.

Steff's girlfriend: Your name is Jim?!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)

http://www.swr3.de/__pix/cover/500x435/1714.jpg

― Sophie B. Hawkins (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)

GHOST O' DAMN PERREY

Arr, matey.

So who would be in Pretty in Pink 2006?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

Ducky = SETH GREEN

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

Hahah

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

Everybody must acknowledge the genius of the gym/jim line!!!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

It is genius!

Also, who would be on the soundtrack?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

Wait -- isn't Calum always going on about his hott chix0rs? So is he here admitting that he is 1. a jerk (with chix0rs) or 2, a nice guy (pathetically alone for life)?

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

Andie = LINDSAY LOHAN

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

That calum should sympathize with ducky is not an indication of his niceness, but rather his aloneness.

― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

"Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want, You Fat Ugly CUNT!"

― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

Blane = TOPHER GRACE

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

Steff = MATTHEW LILLIARD

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

Lindsay Lohan is too "pretty" for Andie.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

Skipping 8 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.
C'mon, Shaggy haunts your dreams, Leon.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

He's just ugh. He seems like he would post to ilm.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:56 (twenty years ago)

Hey!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:57 (twenty years ago)

Google Image Search for "shaggy" turns up this gem:

http://www.trex.org/pix/historical/shaggy.gif

There's another blatantly NSFW pic that I would post if I was at home.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

It is, however, perfect for the underwear thread.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

(oh god i didn't really look at that pic before and now i am so so sorry i even apologize to calumn argh)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)

I wouldn't even apologize on that last point. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)

There's some pink there but it ain't pretty.

― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)

"HOW YA LIKE ME NOW!"

*terrified screams in distance*

Pretty in Pink 2006 -- This Time It's Personal

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)

Mentally that man thinks he is Li'l Jon, I s'pose. But he is not.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

not to actually get into this argument. well. ok.
every gal i know who saw that at the time would've picked duckie. andrew mccarthy has zero charisma. and when he tries to work up emotion he just ends up shifty-eyed. how did he get so much work back then?

― lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 23:07 (twenty years ago)

In the 80s, teenage girls were progammed to go for the duck-butt-for-a-face look (see also Jordan Knight).

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 23:10 (twenty years ago)

cocaine, cocaine, cocaine
shoulderpads

― Snappy (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

Underworld lyrics in the eighties, right there.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 23:36 (twenty years ago)

She should have picked James Spader.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 3 February 2005 00:48 (twenty years ago)

shthe last time I watched this I was overcome with the obviousness of how gay the Ducky character was. perhaps this was sublimated intentionally in the film. In any event, I suppose it was probably the right choice for her because about a year into that relationship she's going to start finding an alarming number of Men's Fitness magazines laying around his bedroom.

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 3 February 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)

not that andrew mccarthy's character isn't a twunt

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 3 February 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)

"The girl was, is, and will always be nada."

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 3 February 2005 01:10 (twenty years ago)

that's true. pre-teen girls love teh gays. all that great style and wacky personality! and it's just so, so comfortable. there's not that weird pressure you feel from the other boys.

― lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Thursday, 3 February 2005 01:14 (twenty years ago)

xpost
That is the second greatest quote from the movie.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 3 February 2005 01:14 (twenty years ago)

xpost

Ohhh, so that's what people meant in high school when they told me I was "just like Ducky". I thought it translated to: "you are really annoying" but it actually translated to "you are a total gaytard". Or could they have meant it both ways?

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Thursday, 3 February 2005 04:54 (twenty years ago)

things get confused at that level

― Snappy (sexyDancer), Thursday, 3 February 2005 05:12 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

this movie means a lot to me. all of these posts are otm:

yeah, but Jon Cryer is GAY.

-- Snappy (sexyDancer), Wednesday, February 2, 2005 4:29 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

http://www.rotovibe.com/images/spader1.jpg

-- Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, February 2, 2005 4:36 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

"The girl was, is, and will always be nada!"

-- Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, February 2, 2005 4:41 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

"When my best friend's conversing with a mutant, you know, I'm curious. That's no reason to get defensive."

-- Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, February 2, 2005 4:42 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 July 2008 05:27 (seventeen years ago)

Oh you just have a Psychedelic Furs fetish, admit it.

― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Friday, 4 July 2008 08:41 (seventeen years ago)

nine years pass...

just blew my mind when i found out James Spader's gf in this ("Benny") was played by the same actress who played Ellen Tigh on Battlestar Galactica (Kate Vernon.)

― nomar, Sunday, 10 September 2017 17:05 (eight years ago)

has it been established for certain yet that the original ending which has her pick Ducky was in fact never filmed? I feel like I've seen both claims: that it was filmed and tested poorly so they reshot it; and that it was never filmed or tested, but written that way, then changed.

― akm, Sunday, 10 September 2017 21:09 (eight years ago)

It was filmed, because they had to go back some months later to shoot the other ending (that's why McCarthy looks some different--he was playing a WW1 soldier in a play, and had lost weight and drastically cut his hair, so he wore an obvious wig for the reshoot).

― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 10 September 2017 21:25 (eight years ago)

It seems like a version of the original ending is on the DVD.

― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 10 September 2017 21:33 (eight years ago)

it's not. it was promised and then didn't show up and people were pissed. but then I heard that this ending maybe didn't even exist.

― akm, Sunday, 10 September 2017 21:55 (eight years ago)

or, it wasn't 'promised', but the DVD press made it sound like it was there, and it wasn't.

― akm, Sunday, 10 September 2017 21:55 (eight years ago)

two years pass...

i watched this for the first time last night, not really what I was expecting! kinda really loved it?????

― brimstead, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 23:19 (five years ago)

it's great

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 23:33 (five years ago)

I used to think "Some Kind of Wonderful" was the best of the batch (vs Sixteen Candles or Pretty In Pink. Or I guess even Breakfast Club? That seems like a different sort of movie.). But I haven't seen any of them in a while. Oh, wait, I think I did see Sixteen Candles not long ago, and it ... didn't hold up. I was also surprised at how much not PG stuff there was for a PG movie, including a gratuitous nude scene!

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 23:56 (five years ago)

I kinda hate this movie but the daughter is insisting on watching it tonight

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 April 2020 01:14 (five years ago)

Jon Cryer swears that Duckie wasn't gay.

― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 April 2020 01:27 (five years ago)

agree that SKoW is the best of the Hugheses that ive seen

― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 April 2020 01:28 (five years ago)

Best overall Hughes soundtrack, SKoW, too. Other movies have their definite highlights: "Don't You (Forget About Me)", "This Woman's Work", "Beat City", "Oh Yeah", "Pretty in Pink", but for me, that's the one that gels best as a whole.

― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 2 April 2020 12:52 (five years ago)

The character does not appear to be gay. He is obsessed with one woman and at the end is happy to go off with another, and he shows no sexual interest in any male during the film.

― the pinefox, Thursday, 2 April 2020 12:57 (five years ago)

That doesn't mean the film isn't queer. Plenty of films have men who show no interest in each other yet read as plausibly queer.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 April 2020 13:10 (five years ago)

but bcz he is played by Jon Cryer, he comes off as (per the actor himself) "slightly effeminate"

― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 April 2020 13:46 (five years ago)

Favorite JH by far. Can prob recite most of the dialogue. ALS otm regarding the Duckman and it is def the best soundtrack though SKoW is a very close second.

― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 2 April 2020 15:59 (five years ago)

whether or not Ducky is gay doesn't really figure into whether or not its a good film imo. The plot mechanics of Andie picking the rich douchebag don't make sense, that's its biggest failing.

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 April 2020 16:05 (five years ago)

I suppose one could argue that Andie *knows* Ducky is gay - even though Ducky does not - and is thus sparing them the embarrassment and heartbreak. But I don't think it really plays that way (even if Ringwald and Cryer's actual opinions mirror this reading; Ringwald thinks Ducky is gay, Cryer does not)

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 April 2020 16:06 (five years ago)

also to be considered: Blaine is boring and bland, obviously Andie is his "manic pixie dream girl", making their whole dynamic p gross.

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 April 2020 16:08 (five years ago)

I'm of that age where Hughes' ouevre were formative movies for me, but increasingly in retrospect I feel like his films had an outsize impact because there was literally *nothing* else to fill that void for pre-teens/teens of the time. The audience was eager for films that reflected teenage realities of the day - hyper-stylized and idealized as they may have been they were recognizable as being grounded in white suburban 80s teen culture, and there weren't a million other movies, streaming channels, tv shows, etc. doing this. But when I go back and watch them now they're for the most part very embarassing, their politics are execrable, the conservatism and sexism and racism really grate.

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 April 2020 16:12 (five years ago)

"Some Kind of Wonderful" is the only Hughes teenager film i have NOT seen. maybe i'll fix that tonight.

― Karl Malone, Thursday, 2 April 2020 16:14 (five years ago)

(damn, pretty sad anecdote for Eric Stoltz: "Originally cast as Marty McFly for Back to the Future in late 1984, he was replaced with Michael J. Fox after about a month of filming.")

― Karl Malone, Thursday, 2 April 2020 16:16 (five years ago)

conservatism? one of the reasons I liked pretty in pink was the totally not subtle commentary on classist bullshit

― brimstead, Thursday, 2 April 2020 18:11 (five years ago)

nobody’s hoarding the broad brushes

― brimstead, Thursday, 2 April 2020 18:11 (five years ago)

nevermind

― brimstead, Thursday, 2 April 2020 18:11 (five years ago)


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