Fair Trade Cocaine

yeh, and they all take drugs, which is the biggest 'i love and support capitalism' statement ever, heh
--stevem
This statement needs some clarification. I mean, it appears to be just complete bollocks, but maybe the person who wrote it has the slightest idea what they are talking about.
-- Gatinha
beat me on the head with a copy of Socialist Worker if i'm wrong but to partake in the consumption of illegal narcotics, whilst not necessarily consciously condoning the various methods of which the narcotics industry operates, is to at least endorse the demand for said narcotics and ultimately sustain an industry fundamentally built on exploitation, hierarchy and other 'anti-Marxist' aspects, tolerated by capitalist governments for various politically-related pros and cons that I can't quite get my head round to explain anyway.
but no i have not read 'Das Capital' so fire when ready...
-- stevem
Hmm, my post was a bit silly I guess, but I was just objecting to the idea that taking drugs in some way nullifies your objections to inequality and injustice. The idea that leftwingers have to dedicate every moment of their lives to the revolution is an extreme position. People who reject society in a political sense also live in that society. At the same time I don't like to see people drunk or out of their heads on demonstartions because I think demonstrations are a serious matter and it undermines the message, especially with some anarchist types who confuse rebellion with objectionable behaviour.
-- Gatinha

my own line = being left-wing is not a rejection of society! and taking drugs is not the same as drinking nestle, because it has added to the 'normal' exploitative relations of capitalism fucking full-on civil war-type situations.

VENT

fair trade drugs would be, of course, the best option. this would, however, require at least a modicum of decriminalisation/legalisation of the drugs in question - which i am moderately in favour of, on a common sense level (prohibition isn't working, and is perpetuating situations like Columbia).

that there is such a concept as 'fair-trade drugs' highlights a lot of the hypocracies that surround drugs, especially cocaine.

caitlin - this was my point exactly. HURT The Man.

(unless he enjoys that sort of thing)

obv what's needed is a change in drug-war policy, and the us involvement has not made the situation in central america (which goes beyond the drug trade anyway) better. but this is the debate to have, not all the old cock and balls about how much more enlightened the victorians were, and what a righteous dude colerige/rimbaud/queen victoria was.

They die for your right to snort
Fair trade special - Drinking ethical coffee is fashionable. But so is using
cocaine, which is supplied through decidedly unethical channels. Nick Cohen
sniffs hypocrisy

http://www.newstatesman.com/200502280015

(But seriously check it out, her car is really hot.)

http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/fingerlakesfinal500club/AndyFuhrman71olds.jpg

She and I are driving thru indiana leaving chicago and you get some serrious snow flurries off the southern tip of lake MI and suddenly its just like full-on snowstorm. And I'm talking to her about a friend of mine who got into an accident and suddenly her wheels hit this patch of snow/ice/sleet and suddenly all i can see out the windshield is WHITE and it feels like we're doing donuts in the ditch in between the east and westbound lanes and we keep flying and i'm all "FUCK." and she is all quiet and then we come to a stop and it's still for like 5 seconds and then we breathe. the car is still running, i go "are you in park" she says no - the snow had stopped the car, she puts it in park, we sit there idling. We step out, look up at the path we've travelled - tire tracks all up and down the ridge, we were like literally an inch from the gaurdrail on the WESTbound lane (we were going east) and the snow is getting heavier. THEN out of nowhere a pickup truck goes [skrrrrt] and lands in the ditch right behind us. We got towed out eventually and ended up at a ponderosa. I had chicken nuggets.

There wasn't any cocaine involved really, although the tow truck driver looked sort of fucked up.

i'm so ethical and shit!

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— L.Dre 🧸 (@ldrethegiant) April 4, 2021

Wow... sixteen years.

I've often wondered if there's any place in the U.S. that could successfully grow the coca plant, and I'm flumoxed. Obviously Puerto Rico is and option (not a state, I know) and perhaps the hills of Hawaii... but is there anywhere in the continental lower 48 where this might work? I don't know much about the shrub itself.