Howard Dean for DNC head?

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Dean Poised to Be New Democratic Party Chief

Fri Feb 4, 3:47 PM ET Politics - Reuters
By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former Democratic presidential contender Howard Dean (news - web sites), whose high-flying White House bid crashed a year ago, is poised to win the post of party chairman and tackle the job of leading Democrats back from November's election losses.

One week before the Democratic National Committee (news - web sites) votes on a new leader, the outspoken former Vermont governor has more than 250 public pledges from DNC supporters, according to the political newsletter Hotline -- well more than the 214 needed to win.

One of Dean's last rivals, Simon Rosenberg, head of the centrist New Democrat Network, dropped his bid on Friday and endorsed Dean. Former Indiana Congressman Tim Roemer and party strategist Donnie Fowler are Dean's last official rivals in what was once a seven-person field to succeed DNC Chairman Terry McAuliffe.

"Howard Dean has enough votes to win this thing," Rosenberg said. "It's really now just a question of how this all comes to an end."

The resurgence of Dean, an early and fierce critic of President Bush (news - web sites) during the Democratic primary campaign, comes three months after many Democrats said the November results showed the party needed a more moderate approach that could broaden its appeal in the South, Midwest and Mountain States.

But Dean wooed party insiders with an aggressive campaign that promised to pump up state-based operations, energize the party's grass roots and build an army of small donors similar to the one that aided his presidential bid.

"He just ran a great campaign," Rosenberg said. "They won this thing. It was not in any way handed to him..."


oh-please-oh-please-oh-please

Kingfish MuffMiner 2049er (Kingfish), Saturday, 5 February 2005 01:30 (twenty years ago)

well they've been running for this for months now. the vote is in a week, but it's already over. i mean, not officially. but it's over. as of a few days ago.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 5 February 2005 01:35 (twenty years ago)

but if you're looking forward to this because you want to see him on tv a lot, it sounds like that won't be happening. he's going to be taking a lower-profile, organizational approach.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 5 February 2005 01:36 (twenty years ago)

well, yeah, but it helps that the other main guy(s) stepped out today(and earlier this week).

this should be fun, at any rate.

Kingfish MuffMiner 2049er (Kingfish), Saturday, 5 February 2005 01:37 (twenty years ago)

also, if he can get more people to pay attention to George Lakoff, so much the better

Kingfish MuffMiner 2049er (Kingfish), Saturday, 5 February 2005 01:37 (twenty years ago)

So, being a lay British person, and a decidedly interested one; what will this mean for U.S. and Democrat politics?

Is Dean exactly what is needed? A firebrand shot-in-the-arm, and someone who will take it to the Republicans, in stark contrast to the previous 'centrist' leadership... or is this effectively mirroring the UK Labour Party in 1979-83? I would personally caution against the latter, considering that it hardly seems agreed that Dean is wholly a 'leftist' candidate. The significant end of his campaign came not with any specific policy but with his carried-away hooting, post-defeat.

Tom May (Tom May), Saturday, 5 February 2005 01:40 (twenty years ago)

Was fiscal discipline something he ran on? If so, and if he does take a lower profile approach, then maybe that will help. There was a pretty critical editorial in the LA Times today (A Suicidal Selection), but maybe the author was underestimating the effectiveness of Democratic grassroots organizing. Might be just as effective as "moral values."

youn, Saturday, 5 February 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

The significant end to his campaign came when people decided (based on very little evidence) that he was too left to run for president.

This can only be good for Democrat politics, because let's face it after the last election the Democratic party can frankly NOT get much worse off than it is. The country can, yes, but the Democratic party is basically powerless to stop that downward slide as it is and I saw no indication that anyone else who was being put up for the DNC had a clue how to prevent that slide into irrelevancy from occurring. And I'm not sure Dean does either, BUT I am pretty sure that Dean will do 1) his damndest to try to prevent it from continuing (guy just loves power too much for that) and 2) will not be hidebound to some idea that ISN'T working. And that can only be for the good.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 5 February 2005 01:52 (twenty years ago)

he will have just as much power and influence as Terry McAuliffe did

mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 5 February 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, with the added advantage of NOT being Terry McAuliffe.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 5 February 2005 02:00 (twenty years ago)

Jonathan Chait, who wrote the LAT piece, is the house Dean-hater at the New Republic, a nominally left-centrist, but arguably neo-con, magazine.

The pick should not be viewed primarily through the lens of ideology (and, once again, all together now, Dean has long been a centrist). It's going to be a primarily mechanical position, focused on building the party at the state and local level. Picking Dean brings along the self-acknowledged risk of gaffes, and he's going to try to keep his head down to avoid them. But message can't be ignored. And his is more outspoken.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 5 February 2005 02:10 (twenty years ago)

YEEEEEEAAAAARRGHH!

Sorry, I got excited.

Mickey (modestmickey), Saturday, 5 February 2005 02:36 (twenty years ago)

Oh, it's Chait. That explains it. He wrote the "Diary of a Dean-O-Phobe" blog during the primaries. Which I thought was a real crapshit piece of work from the New Republic; Chait seems entirely unaware that the biggest effect of his anti-Dean screeds is to fire up the Dean supporters and widen the rift within the party ranks, essentially playing into the divide and conquer strategy pioneered by Dean/Trippi.

I'm about as big a Dean-o-phobe as Chait these days, to be frank, (it's why I've probably burned most of my bridges over at the Daily Kos, where some days I think only RonK and a few others have their heads on straight) and I hope I'm wrong when I say we're probably headed off to the political wilderness for at least one more election cycle. I also hope Dean has the good sense to stay off camera, because he is 100% incapable of not shooting his mouth off at inopportune times, and the GOP is as always poised to exploit the hell out of it every time he does so.

Still, if the powers-that-be in the DC establishment can't get their act together sufficiently to unite the party behind another candidate, they deserve whatever train wreck they're getting.

daria g (daria g), Saturday, 5 February 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

Say that Bush's plan for Social Security reform backfires and all this attention is directed toward domestic affairs by the next election. Then the stage is set for Dean/the Democratic Party. I guess I was impressed by reading that he taped his shoes together in med school.

youn, Saturday, 5 February 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

daria g, just out of curiosity, who were you supporting for the DNC chair, if not Dean?

Dean and Rosenberg were really the only candidates I was excited about. Frost I was absolutely disgusted with.

Mickey (modestmickey), Saturday, 5 February 2005 03:30 (twenty years ago)

I didn't have a particular candidate. I don't get the disgust with Frost, though. He won in Texas for many years. DeLay hates him. I think he may have been up to the job. This is primarily about organizing and fundraising, after all. I don't see what there is in Dean's track record to indicate he'd be successful at this, but it's more that I'm worried about what comes out of his mouth, because there was a steady succession of profoundly damaging statements during the late primaries. Imagine what happens when the public face of the party says something incredibly stupid right before a major election.

I heart the netroots people but they live in an echo chamber; step outside of it and go to a red county and talk to people, or sit and watch mainstream media coverage, and you start to realize just how far the political dialogue has shifted and how hapless and out of the mainstream we Dems often look. Meanwhile BushCo were referencing JFK and Roosevelt during the campaign season. Not only are they gaining more of the center, they're eating our party's legacy, and nobody seems to know WTF to do about it.

I don't see the GWOT issues magically disappearing before the next election and I think it's dangerous for the Dems to continue to cede this ground to the other party and focus exclusively on domestic issues. Kerry knows his stuff on the foreign policy front and instead he's busy with some child health insurance act - not that it isn't extremely important! - but can't we pull someone else off the bench to throw up idealistic domestic initiatives that'll never make it out of committee?

Once again, I hope I'm wrong, but I think we're in more trouble than many of the bloggers realize.

daria g (daria g), Saturday, 5 February 2005 04:06 (twenty years ago)

In a weird way it seems like Iraq has blunted the edge of GWOT issues. By the next election, idealistic domestic initiatives might not be that bad, at least for campaigning. I don't know.

youn, Saturday, 5 February 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

GWOT?

derrick (derrick), Saturday, 5 February 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

fowler dropped out last night, so Dean it is.

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 5 February 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

Global War On Terror

f--gg (gcannon), Saturday, 5 February 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

Meanwhile BushCo were referencing JFK and Roosevelt during the campaign season. Not only are they gaining more of the center, they're eating our party's legacy, and nobody seems to know WTF to do about it.

steal back. a "message" based on small government, small if you consider the budget for defense vs. domestic spending. reform the cia so that it can work with the military so that military intelligence units are unjustified. realistic healthcare reform. a policy in iran based upon encouraging demoncratizing forces within the nation, as suggested by vahid here.
i don't know.

youn, Sunday, 6 February 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
dennis kucinich wrote an interesting open letter to dean recently about regaining majority status by sticking to his breakout rhetoric

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20050516&s=kucinich

walter rossworth, Thursday, 5 May 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
Just recieved an e-mail from the DNC:
While Republican leaders wine and dine the super rich, Chairman Dean will spend his day today talking with ordinary Americans. He will be calling regular folks who have given $25 -- not $25,000 -- and listening to what you have to say about our party, our country, and our future.

Will this be a conference call? Will Dean call collect? Can I get him to record my answering machine message?

(I do think that it's a cool idea.)

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

Has anyone else gotten an offer for a Democratic Party Visa card? It went to my old school mailbox and got bounced through the mail to my new place. Let the DNC help you get into debt! Viva democracy!

Candicissima (candicissima), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 03:19 (twenty years ago)


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