Inside Deep Throat - who else really wants to see this?

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God knows when it comes to the UK, but it played Sundance and with my recent interviewing of Marilyn Chambers I gotta say that porno chic is starting to fascinate me. Not the films... which are invariably dreadful (still to see Deep Throat) but the whole period. The idea that couples saw these films in legitimate movie theatres.

This should be a great doc.

C-Man (C-Man), Saturday, 5 February 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

http://worldofwonder.net/insidedeepthroat/archives/director_interviews.php

The movie's web site

C-Man (C-Man), Saturday, 5 February 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

Not so much a "web site" as a "seb wite".

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 5 February 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

i really do want to see t his, and i think that in the 70s there were porn films that were actually good, interesing, critically engaged works, and i miss that (ie pink narcissus, beyond the green door, deep throat)

also i am actually excited that people are talking about the social and political implications of porn in a real and complicated way--like the new leggs mcneil oral history or this movie...

and im worried about the romanticasation, mainstreaming (i mean the story of linda lovelace and the dog in EW, and no one sitting back and talking about her rape.)

anthony, Saturday, 5 February 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

"porno chic is starting to fascinate me" jesus calum you ARE stuck in the 90s.

anyway yes, this does look interesting. i never saw "eyes of tammy faye." although, mention of linda lovelace's brief turn as an anti-porn crusader is curiously absent from that interview.

xpost.

f--gg (gcannon), Saturday, 5 February 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

wow i didn't know about the mcneil book anthong, thanks for the tip.

f--gg (gcannon), Saturday, 5 February 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

"porno chic is starting to fascinate me" jesus calum you ARE stuck in the 90s.

I think he's coming around to his characters.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 5 February 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

hahaha this is great:

QUESTION: How did you come to make this Inside Deep Throat?

RANDY BARBATO: Fortunately we were chosen. By Brian Grazer.

FENTON BAILEY: We had made a film called The Eyes Of Tammy Faye that did okay at Sundance, and there we met one of the nicest people in the business, Kim Roth.

RANDY BARBATO: In fact, she's so nice you wonder what she's doing in the business.

FENTON BAILEY: So we had heard that Brian Grazer was planning on making a biopic about Linda Lovelace. And Angelina Jolie, tearing a page out of Madonna's book, was campaigning to play the part. So we did our own Joliefication and suggested we should direct the film.

RANDY BARBATO: Except that we thought Mariah Carey should play Linda Lovelace.

FENTON BAILEY: And Kim was gracious enough to indulge us with a meet-and-greet.

RANDY BARBATO: And then nothing happened.

FENTON BAILEY: As you would expect it to.

RANDY BARBATO: But then Linda Lovelace died. And I think Brian felt that when Linda died, doing a film about her life was problematic because there isn't a very satisfying cinematic arc to her story.

FENTON BAILEY: So he had the idea to make a documentary instead of a feature. And then he had a beauty contest of highly-noted documentarians, and fortunately we seemed to win that particular pageant.


f--gg (gcannon), Saturday, 5 February 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

The Eyes of Tammy Faye is a really good documentary.

Behnd the Green Door is rubbish. And can someone please explain the ending? It just... ends.

C-Man (C-Man), Saturday, 5 February 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

not a cinematic arc?!?!? she died in a car crash!

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 5 February 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

yes, I really want to see what happens with this

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 5 February 2005 23:05 (twenty years ago)

oh wow.

f--gg (gcannon), Saturday, 5 February 2005 23:18 (twenty years ago)

repeat these words: "grazer produce biopic of linda lovelace starring angelina jolie" and ponder the bullet we dodged.

f--gg (gcannon), Saturday, 5 February 2005 23:19 (twenty years ago)

Re gabbneb's link: Deep Throat is the Pope!

As for this...there were porn films that were actually good, interesing, critically engaged works, and i miss that (ie pink narcissus, beyond the green door, deep throat)...I haven't seen Pink Narcissus, but Green Door is only marginally interesting as anything but smut (Marilyn Chambers was cute), and Deep Throat is just wretched. Closer to the mark might be the original Devil in Miss Jones and/or The Opening of Misty Beethoven -- neither of which really qualifies as a good movie, but both of which have some interesting elements that set them apart from, you know, Anal Virgins vol. 17.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 5 February 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)

(but I liked The Eyes of Tammy Faye, and this documentary could well be worth seeing -- it will definitely be more entertaining than Deep Throat itself)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 5 February 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)

the poppist in me wants to stand up for anal virgins 17 and decry the classicization of 70s pr0n, but OF COURSE i've never seen any of this stuff...

f--gg (gcannon), Sunday, 6 February 2005 00:15 (twenty years ago)

well no, none of us who'd argue citing it have...

Matt (Matt), Sunday, 6 February 2005 00:18 (twenty years ago)

the original Pretty Peaches was actually pretty good. It's a very touching story. Get it? A 'touching' story ... ha! I never saw Pretty Peaches II.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 6 February 2005 00:28 (twenty years ago)

But what the hell does happen at the end of Behind of the Green Door?

With a few edits Behind the Green Door would be Channel 5 material - but it's dull as dishwater.

The Opening of Misty Beethoven is rubbish. I hold out for The Devil in Miss Jones to actually be as good as Roger Ebert makes out but the others I've seen from the so-called Golden Age are just bad bad bad.

C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 6 February 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)

I ended up seeing this tonight after the midnight Annie Hall sold out at Sunshine. It's pretty dissapointing. The directors dance around or only superficially deal with the most interesting issues surrounding the movie--only cursory mention of the Lovelace rape allegations, treatment of women in porn etc, too much Where Are They Now. A lot of the stock pop commentariat interviews (Alan Dershowitz, Norman Mailer, Gore Vidal, John Waters) are pretty standard.

C0L!N B--KETT, Saturday, 12 February 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

the Misty Beethoven DVD commentary w/Jamie Gillis and Gloria Leonard is fucking great! (I like the movie, too, so hey)

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 12 February 2005 10:33 (twenty years ago)

yeah misty beethoven's great. do they really only give a cursory mention to lovelace's allegations? cuz that seems to be damn near 50% of what is talked about when deep throats mentioned these days.

j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 12 February 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

haha two books by two GREAT authors - mcneil and canseco - that i've been looking forward to for years (the only other book i can think of waiting years for after i'd heard it was in the works is underworld) BOTH come out next week. wonder which'll be juicier? < / wakka wakka >

j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 12 February 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

I just wrote something about a subgenre I really like, namely (celebrity) amateur porn. My husband doesn't really like porn so this meant I had to *sneakily* watch it on my computer. It really irks me that people still equate women + porn = mysoginistic. (See thread on Sage Francis/Homophobic when people talk about Suicide Girls as mysoginistic.) Do people think that porn actors exploited? No. So why women? Why is it still so weird that women might enjoy porn? Anyway, I'm really looking forward to the film.

It's sad that porn has been delegated (?) to the internet and that there's no money being *pumped* into big projects.

Anthony, I have an interesting article on homosexual pornography. If you like, I can scan and send it to you. One article is about Brandon Lee (the porn actor) and another... shit, I can't remember. :-)

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Saturday, 12 February 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

the McNeil book is tremendous, really amazing. TONS of killer (sorry) stuff about mobsters and racketeering and stuff. the story of the FBI agent who goes deep undercover is incredible.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 12 February 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

plus a whole chapter about Lovelace and a dog. not for the squeamish.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 12 February 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

it just about defines "I can't take this anymore/I can't stop reading it" (the chapter, I mean)

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 12 February 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

" treatment of women in porn etc, "

I want to see a documentary about how men are treated in porn.

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Saturday, 12 February 2005 11:12 (twenty years ago)

eek - i've heard some of them lovelace/rintintin stories looking thru luke ford's site

j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 12 February 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)

do they really only give a cursory mention to lovelace's allegations?

A little more than "cursory", I guess. There's footage of her testifying to the Meese commision, on Donahue, and w/Gloria Steinham. But they just sort of outline her story and move on.

C0L!N B--KETT, Saturday, 12 February 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
They give the director of "Deep Throat" a lot more discussion time re: allegations than Lovelace or anyone siding w/her. He tries to argue that she did what anyone told her, so when Steinem asked Lovelace to play the victim, she did. It's largely bullshit. Reading her testimony to the Meese Commision is really depressing. I am guessing the truth is somewhat nearer the middle. I have a hard time trusting what anyone in porn says about their industry, any detail of it.

The extras on this DVD are pretty WTF. There's a deleted scene of the "Deep Throat" director sitting in his backyard, watching a woman dance with fire. No dialogue or anything.

Abbott (Abbott), Saturday, 24 June 2006 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0454884/

Marmot 4-Tay: forth-coming, my child. forth-coming most righteous champion (mar, Saturday, 24 June 2006 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

lol

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 24 June 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)


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