TS: Ken Livingstone vs the Evening Standard

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Two of the things I hate most about London hate each other too.

http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,14173,1409315,00.html

By the evidence here Livingstone seems hardly less bigoted than his asylum-seeker-baiting nemesis, comparing a (Jewish) Standard hack with a concentration camp guard.

What's really galling is the office of the Mayor of London's response, engaging in an in credibly student union-esque argument about the Rothermere newpaper group's enthusiasm for Fascism, as if Livingstone's own embrace of die-hard anti-semites and homophobes. cf

http://www.london.gov.uk/news/docs/qaradawi_dossier.pdf

And you can at least choose not to read the Standard -- the freesheet Kenzine my taxes subsidize is hard to opt out of.

― Miles Finch, Thursday, 10 February 2005 11:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, calling Jewish people Nazis = stupidity of the highest order.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 10 February 2005 11:34 (twenty-one years ago)

unless you didn't know beforehand (which he didn't) or you're Jewish yourself

― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Thursday, 10 February 2005 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Um, no, he DID know the guy was Jewish:

'After Finegold had announced himself as a Standard journalist, Mr Livingstone said: "How awful for you. Have you thought of having treatment?"

Mr Livingstone repeated his question and then asked: "What did you do? Were you a German war criminal?"

Finegold told the mayor that he was Jewish and therefore found the remark offensive, before asking again how the event had gone.

Mr Livingstone replied: "Arr right, well you might be [Jewish], but actually you are just like a concentration camp guard, you are just doing it because you are paid to, aren't you?"'

― Miles Finch, Thursday, 10 February 2005 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Livingstone was probably drunk. The Evening Standard's attacks on him have been amazingly virulent over a long period of time and I can see how that might get to you.

I support Livingstone because of his transport policies, but he is no doubt a self-important prick.

― Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Thursday, 10 February 2005 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Didn't they once accuse him of throwing a pregnant woman over a wall.. or sumthin'?

― Oh Dadaismus, Poor Dadaismus, Mama's Hung You in the Closet and I'm Feelin' (Dad, Thursday, 10 February 2005 12:21 (twenty-one years ago)

of manhandling his pregnant girlfriend. i'm not sure whether it was true or not, but definitely it's a real mutual hate-fest and both parties are pretty shameless about it.

― Miles Finch, Thursday, 10 February 2005 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

He was definitely accused of drunkenly pushing someone over a wall

― Oh Dadaismus, Poor Dadaismus, Mama's Hung You in the Closet and I'm Feelin' (Dad, Thursday, 10 February 2005 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm really looking forward to Tony Blair calling Paul Dacre a "fucking cunt, worse than Pol Pot" after the next election.

It was a Standard journalist he was accused of pushing over a wall as well.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 10 February 2005 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

He should go and marry Amanda Platell. They would suit each other.

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 10 February 2005 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

it wasn't a wall it wz banisters

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 10 February 2005 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I knew it wasn't a wall per se but I couldn't think of the word

― Oh Dadaismus, Poor Dadaismus, Mama's Hung You in the Closet and I'm Feelin' (Dad, Thursday, 10 February 2005 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I enjoy reading the Standard, and can't understand all the hate for it I come across.

The photo they use of Amanda Platell for her column looks remarkably like Marilyn Manson.

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Thursday, 10 February 2005 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah I read that on Dissensus too.

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 10 February 2005 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Ken Livingstone's tranformation into a running dog of capitalism is complete. He is George Brown. I expect him to be feeling up Bishops soon enough.

As an aside, the Mayor's office worked out that the subStandard was read more by commuters outside London than inside London (and thus non voters for Ken) and of those who read it who did live in London, they didn't trust it - they were far more trusting of BBC London TV and Radio, which is why he's decided to let them go fuck themselves - they did everything to stop him last time, and it made no difference. The particular comments are not good at all here, but in general, seeing a politician of the left tell a populist scumbag right-wing pile of shit where to go fuck themselves is marvellous to see and very refreshing.

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 10 February 2005 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

George Brown had far more entertainment value than Ken

― Oh Dadaismus, Poor Dadaismus, Mama's Hung You in the Closet and I'm Feelin' (Dad, Thursday, 10 February 2005 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Give the boy time.

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 10 February 2005 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

He would need to up his alcohol take signifcantly

― Oh Dadaismus, Poor Dadaismus, Mama's Hung You in the Closet and I'm Feelin' (Dad, Thursday, 10 February 2005 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

"tired and emotional"!!

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 10 February 2005 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I always skip to the George Brown bits in political biographies, they're always good for a laugh

― Oh Dadaismus, Poor Dadaismus, Mama's Hung You in the Closet and I'm Feelin' (Dad, Thursday, 10 February 2005 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)

the standard has been after his blood for years, and is a nasty, crass little right wing smearsheet. good on ken for telling them to fuck off. bad on him for doing it in such an er.. oblique way.

― debden, Thursday, 10 February 2005 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

also claiming offence at being called a concentration camp guard because you're jewish... hmm in 2005, and assuming the guys english and under 70, and understands the context ken meant the remark in (which he explained with his next sentence), is he really likely to be that gutted? seems like the usual standard faux-outrage to me.

― debden, Thursday, 10 February 2005 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Give the boy time.

About 20 years in Wormwood Scrubs should be sufficient.

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 10 February 2005 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)

well, given ken's friendliness with yer actual non-faux anti-semites i'm not sure whether... actually, hang on calling *anyone* a concentration camp guard is fucked up! they work for a right-wing newspaper, so anything is fair game? jesus.

― Miles Finch, Thursday, 10 February 2005 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno, you have to sell out your principles to work for a right-wing fucksheet like the Mail or the Standard. Unless you're already a snivelling right-wing cunt.

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 10 February 2005 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

it's quite a dated reference isn't it? i think Ken needs new insults.

― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Thursday, 10 February 2005 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

... I see a London Assembly initiative coming up, "Ken Needs New Insults", it's your duty as a Londoner to contribute

― Oh Dadaismus, Poor Dadaismus, Mama's Hung You in the Closet and I'm Feelin' (Dad, Thursday, 10 February 2005 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, cos guardian/independent writers are known to be like *really socially conscious* (ie they vote labour and drink fair trade coffee: wowee zowee).

xxpost

― Miles Finch, Thursday, 10 February 2005 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

If you're a freelance journalist you will inevitably end up writing for rightwing publications if you want to make a living.

― Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Thursday, 10 February 2005 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I hear they pay better

― Oh Dadaismus, Poor Dadaismus, Mama's Hung You in the Closet and I'm Feelin' (Dad, Thursday, 10 February 2005 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

.. like being a brutal kapo in 1940s poland vs. being a cabbage farmer

― debden, Thursday, 10 February 2005 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry i shouldn't even joke it's not funny.

― debden, Thursday, 10 February 2005 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Inevitably?

― Pete W (peterw), Thursday, 10 February 2005 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

ooh the louche, deadpan way he hefts the ball into the open goal!

― debden, Thursday, 10 February 2005 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

'leftwing' publications' business practices are no less 'leftwing' than those of 'rightwing' publications.

― Miles Finch, Thursday, 10 February 2005 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

or, indeed, more.

― Miles Finch, Thursday, 10 February 2005 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Speaking as an occasional freelance journalist, there is absolutely no way you could make a living on the meagre handouts of the Guardian and the Independent, so yes, if you want to make a living as a freelancer, you "inevitably" have to work for right-leaning publications.

― Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Thursday, 10 February 2005 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

And yes, Miles is right, the Guardian makes you sign away all your copyright and doesn't even tell you if they've sold your piece on, you just discover it there on the Internet one day.

― Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Thursday, 10 February 2005 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

While Miles is correct about capitalism, it is perfectly possible to earn a decent living writing for magazines and newspapers that espouse an at least superficially left-wing editorial stance. however, definitions of 'living' can vary wildly.

― Pete W (peterw), Thursday, 10 February 2005 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,14173,1415070,00.html

wow, ken is taking it up a notch. i'm kind of fascinated because his argument appeals so much to the liberal-left mentality that says 'the daily mail is to blame' for the persistence of all evil in the country. livingstone 'regrets it was ever founded', as if an 1896 independent would have served a large public and massive advertising concerns through sheer good intentions. it's a dubious proposition. i do enjoy it when people argue from alternative historical universes to excuse their real mistakes: mail journalists 'would have' collaborated with hitler -- so it's okay to call them concentration camp guards. ah, yes, that famous may 1940 'let's surrender' headline from the mail...

― Henry Miller, Tuesday, 15 February 2005 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

in the early 80s the mail - or was it the express - wd regularly publish those cummings cartoons w.ken (or similar hate-figure) w.brezhnev standin behind him as his puppeteer, so the "alternative historical universe" trope is common ground i guess

further to the qualities of right vs left media argt, cummings - whatever his politics - was easily the best cartoon draftsman brit newspapers have ever had: everyone else is either over-complicated or up themselves obscure conceit-wise

(or just totally fucking useless viz garland)

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Yesterday's Media Guardian pointed out that Ken once wrote restuarant reviews for ES...

(I voted for Ken last time and would do again. I have also written gig reviews for the Standard, for reasons of poverty as stated by Jonathon Z above. Foot in both camps, no mud slinging here, fence comfortable etc etc)

― Anna (Anna), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm delighted by Ken's attack on The Mail. unfortunately i suspect he will emerge from this battle far more scarred than the Daily Mail, sadly.

― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Foot in both camps, no mud slinging here, fence comfortable etc etc

Well to be precise, according to the article, Foot was in the Evening Standard................ sorry

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't like the mail or the standard, though I do know someone who writes for the latter and is not a concentration camp guard, and would almost certainly have not fought for hitler. if you are going to attack them, fine, but the whole nazi tangent isn't a winning argument: standard and mail readers are hardly likely to sit up and listen. there are some parallels between the anti-jewish mail campaigns of a hundred years ago and the modern anti-immigration campaign, but they're somewhat obscured by all the talk of death camps.

― Henry Miller, Tuesday, 15 February 2005 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think he should apologise for the comment either. i think it is insensitive rather than 'racist'. if he'd just called him an arsehole no-one would care. his arrogance probably needs to be curbed somehow but the arrogance of the Express and Mail should be seen to first and it's refreshing to hear people in power speaking out against them - more of that please (i know this is all a bit short-sighted but i'm having fun).

― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Why y'all drink warm beer?

― Cleetus, Tuesday, 15 February 2005 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Finegold told the mayor that he was Jewish and therefore found the remark offensive

If he were a gentile would he have considered it a compliment?

― Sam Pesht, Tuesday, 15 February 2005 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

No. That's not what he said.

― Henry Miller, Tuesday, 15 February 2005 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Equating people with nazis, unless they actually vocally support genocide, cheapens the epithet. I don't see the difference between this and red-baiting in the 20's and 50's. Above all else, Ken comes out looking like a rather inept idiot.

― Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

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i was talking about the labour party ed

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Thursday, 7 September 2006 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

this thread is confusing!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 7 September 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

how so?

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Thursday, 7 September 2006 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

It's not tory to insist that systems designed to protect workers are de-legitimised when they are abused by people.

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 7 September 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

So who's going to do the monitoring of the abuse?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 7 September 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

Livingstone is the Simon Reynolds of politics, spitting on and turning against everything he believed in 20 years ago.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

sickie 'culture' is a lot more complex than idle workers living it up at home while good honest hard-working times clock in; in my experience staff morale, and thus issues that should be close to a labour pol's heart, is a large part of the picture.

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

Absolutely, but there are also workers who are selfish cunts, and they have hid behind progressive employment legislation to the point where bosses start to want to roll back that legislation and those policies at work, and people defending them have had their job made harder. This isn't about the person off sick because the corporate culture or workload is too much, and going off sick is the natural and understandable resposne, but cheeky twats who expect their colleagues to cover for them, who have no intention of returning to work, who absue those policies to cover for the fact that they're a scrote who wants something for nothing.

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

like those fuckers building Wembley! (Ok maybe not but how else to explain the delays?)

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

haha otm

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

The point is that companies will use it as an excuse to get rid of people who actually are off sick because of genuine corporate culture-inspired illness, i.e. green light to Buddy Rich-style (mis)management.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

i look forward to the abolition of the NHS by extension, i mean all those malingerers wasting tax payers' money

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

I wasn't aware that pointing out that the law of unintended consequences worked in this issue, and suggesting something needs to be done about it, equated one with Digby Jones. Silly billy.

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't you hear Digby Jones on Desert Island Discs, then?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

I try not to, despite being a running dog of capitalism myself.

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

I heard this Digby Jones and it went something like Simply The Best>>Everything I Do...I Do It For You and so on and so forth until the last sound I heard was either the bottom of a barrel being scraped, or an entire nation moved to self-harm with old, rusty Bics.

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 7 September 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

apparently

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Record: Wind Beneath My Wings
Book: How Britain made the Modern World by Niall Ferguson
Luxury: Video or pictorial book of '100 examples of excellence'

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Thursday, 7 September 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

why is nobody's book ever 'How To Survive On This Sodding Island Indefinitely'?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 7 September 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

You need the SAS handbook.

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 7 September 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Simon Cowell requested a mirror.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 7 September 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

and whose is this i wonder? (no googling!)

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Record:Tangled Up in Blue
Book:The River Cottage Cookbook by Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall
Luxury: A crate of Scottish whisky.

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Thursday, 7 September 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I listened to that, it's The Next Prime Minister (Not) (From My Cold, Dead Hands) (Etc)

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 7 September 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

kept from the ken vs boris thread coz i don't want to look partisan.

still, me, a guardian link? about ken livingstone? with my reputation?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,,2178952,00.html

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 29 September 2007 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

dude, did ken run over yr cat or something?

― stevie, Saturday, 29 September 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

ironically, in the evening standard the same day:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23414171-details/Blears+gets+tough+over+Ken%27s+towers/article.do

― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 29 September 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

wau, i find myself even preferring blears over ken :/

"An exception to the council's normal requirement to provide affordable housing was considered justified as the scheme would provide a leisure centre, including a swimming pool, for local community use."

this is essentially a "kickback" done legit, but i think the notion of affordable housing is too. wealth disparity in general and deprivation in particular is not solved by subsidizing the housing of a token number of (facing it) core labour voters within the much bigger picture of livingtone's laissez-faire approach to developers. early on the barbican had some affordable housing. it's not exactly a model of social integration now. this kind of building seems only to fuel the boom (rather than damp it down with supply) -- there is just that much surplus cash around.

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 29 September 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

http://uk.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUKLAL00192620071102

nice

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 2 November 2007 10:49 (eighteen years ago)

"The police may now be scared to shoot guys in the face"

― Dom Passantino, Friday, 2 November 2007 10:52 (eighteen years ago)

Does Menezes still update Church of Me, haven't looked for a while?

― Dom Passantino, Friday, 2 November 2007 10:52 (eighteen years ago)

oh ken

why did he even need to comment? is he trying to curry favour with the polis?

― ledge, Friday, 2 November 2007 10:54 (eighteen years ago)

i think the way things work is the mayor of the city where the hit went down gets asked by reporters, 'any comment?' i mean, yeah, he kind of does have to weigh in!

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 2 November 2007 11:16 (eighteen years ago)

He was on the Today Programme this morning, and John Humphreys grilled him on Ian Blair and the need for someone to carry the can. All Ken could say was that it was a tragic mistake, and that the circumstances at the time were very difficult for the police.

― Daniel Giraffe, Friday, 2 November 2007 11:35 (eighteen years ago)

does blair have pics of the labour front bench + ken frotting each other's kids or what?

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 2 November 2007 11:38 (eighteen years ago)

"If an armed police officer believes they are in pursuit of a terrorist who might be a suicide bomber and they start making these sort of calculations based on this, how is this going to be seen? Am I going to be hauled off to court?"

He totally misunderstands the failures that were found to have occurred. The individual police who shot him were specifically found NOT to be at fault. It was the communications (or lack of) between higher-ups and the guys on the street, it was operational failures in the hours leading up to the shooting, and intelligence problems. None of this affects the thinking of armed police who are in pursuit of suspected terrorists in the fucking slightest.

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 2 November 2007 12:06 (eighteen years ago)

What the fuck @ Ken, Tracer Hand otm.

― Just got offed, Friday, 2 November 2007 12:09 (eighteen years ago)

Next time just get Boris to headbutt them in the goolies like he did to that German footballer in that charity match

― Tom D., Friday, 2 November 2007 12:11 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

Resign, you thuggish, bent, wanker Jasper

― The Boyler, Thursday, 13 December 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

Let's hope that a criminal investigation takes place after all this is Londoner's money and were sick of it.

Which Londoner was that then? If he's sick of the money I'll be happy to take it off his hands.

― Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 13 December 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

Very good to see this investigation is taking place. All too often when fraud on councils, dodgy charities, so called policy units, takes place and involves afro carribs, they run off shouting racists, and racial harassment. It is disgusting that they hide behind and use the colour of their skin to exploit the taxpayer. Jasper I can assure you, like Trevor Philips, is a thoroughly nasty piece of work. Livingston has for too long been the lacky of the race peddlers. Please keep up this much-needed task of hounding these criminals.

- Mark Armstrong, London

― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 13 December 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

Livingston has for too long been the lacky of the race peddlers.

http://www.chezjessop.co.uk/TourDeFrance.jpg

― Tom D., Thursday, 13 December 2007 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

this one gets uglier and uglier.

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 13:33 (seventeen years ago)

hey shaving off his moustache was a step up

― DG, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 13:34 (seventeen years ago)

Maybe Brian Paddick will save us.

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 13:34 (seventeen years ago)

ken's new campaign slogan "that's_racist.gif"

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 13:36 (seventeen years ago)

previous front runner was 'sack da bitch'

― DG, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 13:37 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

Ken Livingstone will be editing this week's edition of the New Statesman. http://www.newstatesman.com/
* Jarvis Cocker writes exclusively about why he wants the next generation of Trident nuclear weapons scrapped.
* MPs Charles Kennedy and Jon Cruddas, along with other New Statesman readers, put their questions to Ken.
* Indulging his passion for science fiction Ken conducts an interview with one of his favourite writers - Iain M Banks. Ken and Iain M Banks discuss everything from whether living space means you have to have socialism, to Banks's views on Scottish independence.
* Other contributions from Vivienne Westwood, Stephen Fry, Bonnie Greer, Jo Brand, Bob Stanley of the band Saint Etienne, Norman Cook (Fatboy Slim).

― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 10:41 (sixteen years ago)

"* MPs Charles Kennedy and Jon Cruddas, along with other New Statesman readers, put their questions to Ken."

is pretty a hilarious guest-editor move. i'm sure it will be fascinating.

the mag is a p.o.s. so i suppose getting tories/dicks like vivienne westwood and bob stanley* and jarvis cocker on board (to talk about trident! why not!?) can't make it worse. wonder if bonnie greer will mention that she's from the states.

― history mayne, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 11:22 (sixteen years ago)

what's the asterisk for?

― unban dictionary (blueski), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 11:51 (sixteen years ago)

that's actually his name.

― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 11:56 (sixteen years ago)

it's a branding thing, like wallpaper*

― history mayne, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 12:45 (sixteen years ago)

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