They're remaking The Exorcist

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I say good luck to them. The original's first half evokes a nice sense of menace but it goes overboard and enters the realms of hilarity in the second half. So... lots to improve on, and by gum have the SFX aged. "Texas Chainsaw" and "Last House on the Left" have never lost their effect because they, wisely, never opted for the onscreen gore of Friedkin's movie.

― C-Man (C-Man), Friday, 11 February 2005 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

No one?

― C-Man (C-Man), Friday, 11 February 2005 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you alive?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I fear no-one is really that bothered, Calum. :(

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 11 February 2005 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Hello Ned, how is it I have more friends in your own backyard than you?

― C-Man (C-Man), Friday, 11 February 2005 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Texas Chainsaw never opted for on-screen gore??

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Friday, 11 February 2005 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

If it's claymation then I'll get enthusiastic

― why must we cut onions? (Lynskey), Friday, 11 February 2005 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

No gore in the original chainsaw.

― C-Man (C-Man), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

They could get that guy we met in the Windmill to do it.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Calum, what about the end of the movie? Granted I don't remember that much of it because I thought it was a dumb film, but after the girl breaks away from the creepy situation with the freakish old man and all the screaming and such, I distinctly remember her being bloodspattered for some reason.

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

They should make it with Ned trying to destroy that pesky Calum.

The Ilxorcist.

― Masked Gazza, Friday, 11 February 2005 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Also the "gore" in the Exorcist is not so much blood gore slasher flick either, so I would think the whole scene with the old man counts under the "gross out" definition seemed to be used here.

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

She is definitely covered in blood, but there is nothing gruesome in the movie. The ‘gross out factor’ is in your mind most of the time – like Psycho.

― C-Man (C-Man), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that is not an accurate representation of the last 20 minutes of the film.

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

She is definitely covered in blood, but there is nothing gruesome in the movie.

Yeah -- let's not split hairs, huh?

― Miles Finch, Friday, 11 February 2005 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait a sec:

"lots to improve on, and by gum have the SFX aged. "Texas Chainsaw" and "Last House on the Left" have never lost their effect because they, wisely, never opted for the onscreen gore of Friedkin's movie."

turns into:

"She is definitely covered in blood, but there is nothing gruesome in the movie. The ‘gross out factor’ is in your mind most of the time – like Psycho."

how?

The gruesome bits I recall from The Exorcist (which is saw a loooong time ago, & it did nothing for me) were things like the pea soup, the neck 360, the writing on the skin, the happy-go-lucky crucifix masturbation scene, the sores and all that - disgusting things that were physical in nature, but ultimately had a psychological effect, in that they fed on people's fears of being betrayed by their physiology (as well as the whole atavistic fear-of-possession thing, which is an extension of the fear-of-losing-control and super-Catholic fear-of-physical-self).

Chainsaw, from what I've heard (never seen it, except of excerpts in various horror-film retrospectives) features mostly implied violence. There's that oft-quoted scene where the bohunk stumbles into the house, trips on some ramp leading up to a doorway from which Leatherface emerges, wielding this massive mallet. LF whacks the kid on the noggin (though I don't think we actually see the impact - there's a sick wet crunch, though), and the kid starts twitching a lot. Then LF grabs the kid, drags him up the ramp into the area where LF emerged, and then slides shut this loud aluminum door. And then I think some screaming's heard. Nothing's seen, though - all the brutality of the actual death is left to the viewer to imagine. If that's not indicative of the movie's MO (to tease the viewer w/ violence, then leave the viewer to their own devices), set me straight.

So, yeah, what most everyone's already said on this thread (but with more words).

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

tobe hoper originally tried to go for a PG rating

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)

If you've not seen it, shut up.

The violence in Chainsaw is implied. The Exorcist broke new ground with Dick Smith's make up which were presented in all their gory glory. Nothing is left to the imagination - puke, crosses in the crotch, lacerations on the body, more vomit... it's all there.

― C-Man (C-Man), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

calum that's an incredibly literal-minded take on how cinema works. most things are sodding 'implied'. but anyway wrt the crotch-stabbing: you can *always* go one step more naturalistic, because you can *always* imagine more. the point is: is there any point?

― Miles Finch, Friday, 11 February 2005 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think most things are implied at all. Especially not in modern horror and/ or modern blockbusters. Tell me one thing that is implied in Van Helsing or The Day After Tommorow?

― C-Man (C-Man), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

haven't seen them, but the whole mechanism of cinema works on basis of sympathy/identification which are not about eyelines but about 'understanding' situations. most of the movie's content is set off in yr head -- it isn't 'up there'.

― Miles Finch, Friday, 11 February 2005 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

death of royal family is implied in day after tomorrow

― mark s (mark s), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Bollox

― C-Man (C-Man), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

You know, Calz, except for the fact that we're actually talking about movies made 20+ years ago, your last post is totally OTM.

Oh, wait - I'm supposed to be shutting up. My bad.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

also death of ian holm and pals i think

― mark s (mark s), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

The death of the british royal family is implied in the day after tomorrow, though! I mean, the helicopters that are going to recue them freeze and crash, so...

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

brilliant!

― Miles Finch, Friday, 11 February 2005 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

of course as they are 12-foot-lizards and hence cold-blooded we are maybe meant to assume they survive

― mark s (mark s), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

now that i have started assumin this i find i like the movie better!

― mark s (mark s), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

the scariest* bit of violence in Chainsaw - the first death - is not implied though it isn't gory either: it's very sudden, in the semi-distance, and he twitches in a really nasty way

*(at least by the not unreasonable test of: the bit i remember best** and have nightmares abt)
**(actually i shall test my memory tonight: interesting to see how well i have remembered it, and how much implication my imagination has subsequently filled in)

― mark s (mark s), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

eleven years pass...

Oh, FOXpaws. Geena Davis and Alan Ruck deserve a lot better than this shitshow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NH3ffAp9aA

― a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 17:03 (nine years ago)

five months pass...

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