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i like to shake hands, men and women. i wonder if women i meet ever think this odd. i don't usually go for the kiss with women, even if i know them well - this is just a shyness thing that goes way back that i never recovered from - no offence ladies, ha. i've never kissed a man hello/goodbye - i wonder if that would ever become 'acceptable' for straight men in this culture, at least for those not affected by shyness. as a kid i remember talk of footballers kissing each other (on cheek, forehead, never mouth obv. other than in very rare jokey exceptions e.g. Gazza one time) during goal celebrations. i saw it a couple of times and it seemed funny. it doesn't really happen anymore does it?

it just occurred to me tho that as odd as this is, it also seems odd that customs have been preserved as they have tho relaxed over time, that it's deemed socially 'correct' now to kiss women (regardless of your own gender) whilst straight guys still only kiss women hello and goodbye, no-one else. i imagine this will not change for some time if ever.

hugging's a different thing that people generally seem slightly more comfortable with regardless of gender and sexual preference. it's good! a while back i started touching people when i said goobye, usually on the arm/shoulder, but more with men than women which goes back to the shyness thing again I figure.


other gestures: casual salute (do this sometimes, probably makes me seem like a twat - i've never done one like Rimmer in Red Dwarf tho honest), wink (can't do this, don't), touching fists (replaced the hi-five? this now seems to be totally uncool to do, at least for caucasians, hmm), head bows (imagine if this was more common in the West)...


what else? and what do you prefer to do?

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

I'm a firm believer in the handshake done seriously, not ironically. I don't kiss straight men, but I kiss all my gay friends. I wish some of them would shave better.

Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

"i like to shake hands, men and women."

i read this as you like to shake hands as well as women and men. which would be kinda coolio. i dunno, i like to hug my friends. but usually i just shake hands and/or kiss. the problem is that depending from region to region people either give one, two or three kisses.

i RRRREALLY hate limp (?) handshakes. urgh.

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

good thread idea.

i've never kissed a man hello/goodbye - i wonder if that would ever become 'acceptable' for straight men in this culture, at least for those not affected by shyness.

i think it's going that way. before i went to university my male friends and i had an ironic 'handshake' thing, but since then it seems to have been replaced with actual handshaking. with women it was only at uni that the whole kissing thing took off as greeting/farewell gesture.

i tend to do a half-assed, generalized 'peace and fucking' type gesture, hard to render in word, because i say goodbye to everyone simultaneously and don't get into details.

RNQ, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

what's an ironic handshake?

I don't kiss straight men, but I kiss all my gay friends.

that's interesting (if you're straight)

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

oh yeh i always hold up my palm when saying hello or goodbye to friends now. what's that about?

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

the ironic handshake was kind of over-zealous. like: this is how "grown-ups" do.

NRQ, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Good Day Sir! Faredywell

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

that's interesting (if you're straight)

Because straight guys (including myself) get self-conscious kissing each other, and my gay friends will kiss anybody.

Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

what's an ironic handshake?

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ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

i always get taken by surprise when i get the smooch on the face goodbyes halfway through a hug, and forget to kiss back.

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

Tony Stark should post to that 'I found a teddybear on the street' thread

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

like, i'd go through the mouth motions without actually making connections with the face.. it's kind of ridiculous. except this one time about a year ago when i did that hug kiss thing outside a club just as her face was turning and it turned to a lippy kiss. which probably gave the girl the wrong ideas (we had only just met 20 mins before)

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

I like the see-each-other-in-the-street nod (especially when it's not so much a nod as the reverse of the nod, tiping your head up in recognition). I think waving looks a bit silly, but I still end up doing it; the casual salute's a bit better but maybe seems 'ironic' and twattish.

Find it really difficult to gauge whether the situation requires nods, or smiles, or handshakes, or kissing-on-cheek (and if so how many times).

cis (cis), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

i hate it when dudes give really really tight handshakes as if to show you how hard they are or something. saying that, it's always a bit a weird when you shake someones hand and it's all limp.

in sharky water, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

One thing I noticed after moving to Denver was that anytime I was introduced to someone, they'd shake my hand with an ease and confidence I've never encountered anywhere else. I prefer to shake hands when being introduced to someone, but I've never lived anywhere else it was done like in Denver. When I end up greeting people I already know, I'll do a little t-rex arm wave thing that I hate but keep doing without thinking.

I'm uncomfortable with the kiss on the cheek usually unless said cheek kiss is from an old or dear friend. Doing this routinely among people I hardly know kind of grates on my nerves. I always have to steel myself if I know this will be happening a lot in any given event.

sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

I get confused most of the time. I never know what people are going to try. I usually go for less contact rather than over do it. Kissing people never happens, except with some of my more pretentious friends, though I never initiate it. I'm getting better at hugging and sometimes even enjoy it. I suspect I give the impression that I would rather people didn't hug me or whatever but that's not really true.

alix (alix), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

A smile is always nice.

pepektheassassin (pepektheassassin), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

The Glasgow kiss.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

I'm uncomfortable with the kiss on the cheek usually unless said cheek kiss is from an old or dear friend. Doing this routinely among people I hardly know kind of grates on my nerves. I always have to steel myself if I know this will be happening a lot in any given event.

I got used to this living in France but it took a while and I've somewhat reverted to American mores in this regard. Kissing women whose name has hardly registered itself in my brain still seems a little forward here in the U.S. On the other hand, it's much easier in France, 'cause after a while you realize that people will feel odd/rejected if you don't.

It's strange, 'cause it has occurred to me that if I meet a woman at, say, the beginning of a party, I'll shake hands. If she and I, or she and my gf, or she and a friend of mine have a good time together, talk at length, etc... there's a good chance she'll get la bise on my way out.

Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

I tend to go with whatever the other person looks like they'll be comfortable with. if they proffer their cheek, I can oblige with kisses. if they proffer their hand, I can shake it. I'm flexible.

I hold up my palm quite a lot, esp. from a distance or saying goodbye to more than one person.

I find it fascinating how people differ so radically in what they feel comfortable with, in this area.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

Blimey!

xpost

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

Wha?

Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

Oh you know.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

I do the kinda of weird wave and "hey" thing that Ross from Friends would probably do. And the inperceptable head nod/eyebrow raise. And the "I would maybe say hello, but I hate making eye contact" shuffle past in the corridor.

I'm totally not comfortable with kissing, hugging and etc.

Ideally, I would give everyone a Mick Foley style Thumbs Up, with toothy grin. I don't have the confidence for this though.

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

la bise = pinch on the ass, right?

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

Faire la bise = greet or say goodbye to someone with kisses.

Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

I like kisses.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

I wish I was Vulcan.

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

I like, in social settings, to sometimes do the gentle head-down bow at people. People recognize the intent behind the gesture, it provides some meet-&-greet variety, it allows me to keep my personal space, people don't have to touch my clammy hands, etc.

known vaginatarian (nickalicious), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

some friends I'd hug, male or female, if I hadn't seen them for a while or after a particularly long night out or something. otherwise mainly handshakes but I might also pat someone on the arm or back as I shake their hand, is this odd? feels normal.

one friend of mine, not a guy I know really well, he shops in the shop a bit and will always do a sort of hiphop type handshake (not to sound like John Major), this usually takes me by surprise.

occasionally I am ambushed by strong feelings of not wanting to hug/kiss someone as I say goodbye, or decide either way, maybe if I don't know them. I think it's ok to just say goodbye.

I relate to what Michael said, if I get along with a girl I've just met well, I might hug or kiss her at the end of a party or whatever.

Recently some of my friends made a big deal of a friend of mine kissing me on the lips to say goodbye, apparently they said if they saw their gfs kissing someone on the lips, not the cheek, they'd be very suspicious.

This seemed kind of weird to me I must say.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

The fistcrunch is a personal favorite though. I accidentally busted it out on a company rep the other day, without thinking, and he didn't just not give me the stink eye, he made with the fistcrunch! I was surprised.

known vaginatarian (nickalicious), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

really Ronan? lip-kissing between m/f friends is pretty rare isn't it?

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

I dunno, not if your good friends with the person I wouldn't have thought, and after a couple of drinks.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

yeh i guess you're right, it's just me. i didn't talk to any women at all for the entire duration of the 1990s.

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

I have a whole gang of friends that I kiss hello (these also seem to be the same friends I mostly only ever see at bars. hmmm) and others whom I'll hug and still others that get a nod. It seems to be more of an individual thing than a gender based thing. Interesting though. I like the idea of saluting (in an ironic way, natch)

mouse (mouse), Thursday, 17 February 2005 03:46 (twenty years ago)

i find the ironic crotch-grab always does the trick.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 17 February 2005 04:03 (twenty years ago)

I go for a courtly bow, better done while removing your plumed hat.

Paul Kelly (kelly), Thursday, 17 February 2005 08:53 (twenty years ago)

I don't like physical contact AT. ALL. (unless I'm drunk and then I hug everyone.) I would far prefer to go back to bowing and curtsying and all that. I quite like the Asian "namaste" type greeting as well. Maybe I'll start doing that instead.

The only time I shake hands with anyone is the first time I meet them. After that it's just weird and awkward to do it more than once. If people insist on kissing me, then I'll go along with it, but it's not really something I'll initiate unless I really feel comfortable with them.

Joe's family, half of them did the one-kiss on the cheek thing, but the other half of them did the two-kiss on each cheek thing. I NEVER figured out which one was going to do which and always ended up getting someone in the nose.

Kate Kept Me Alive! (kate), Thursday, 17 February 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

I think I like shaking hands, but I don't think I'd proffer my hand first.

alix (alix), Thursday, 17 February 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

Is 'proffer' a word?

alix (alix), Thursday, 17 February 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

I don't like the way people's palms feel. And I worry about my own being icky or clammy or sweaty or something. I have a rubbish handshake.

Kate Kept Me Alive! (kate), Thursday, 17 February 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

Seems like on the rare occasion someone wants to shake my hand they are always either sweaty or dirty.

kate/papa november (papa november), Thursday, 17 February 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

Actually, because I was so confused by the whole one kiss/two kiss/red kiss/blue kiss ritual of Joe's family, that Joe and I developped this whole alternate greeting ritual where we would step gently on each others' toes and make squelching noises.

I wonder if that would catch on...

Kate Kept Me Alive! (kate), Thursday, 17 February 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

The only person I really hug hello is my best friend and I don't see her often anyway so it's more of a 'I haven't seen you for a long time' kind of thing. It's always kind of weird because theres a weird kind of unresolved sexual tension between us anyhow.

I never shake hands unless someone else initiates it, because it's far more formal than I think i would ever want to be in a position to be.

kate/papa november (papa november), Thursday, 17 February 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

I wouldn't mind the kiss greeting were it not that I'm embarrassed about how baby-smooth my cheeks are (despite being a guy).

What's the fistcrunch, nickalicious?

Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Thursday, 17 February 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

I find a wink and a point of the index finger at the person to whom I'm saying hello never fails to charm. If it's a particularly close friend I'll add a cute couple of clicks with my mouth.

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 17 February 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

whassa madda you, gadda no respect

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Thursday, 17 February 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

sincere crotch grab is better.

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 17 February 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

sincere crotch grab is better.

This is harder than it sounds.

prof·fer
tr.v. prof·fered, prof·fer·ing, prof·fers
To offer for acceptance; tender.

Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 17 February 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

A sociopathic friend of mine usually steps back and makes the Vulcan live-long-and-prosper sign. This prevents any terrifying human contact and gets a laff in the bargain.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Thursday, 17 February 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

Fistcrunch is like, two arms outstretched with hand clenched into a fist, knuckles brought together, sometimes with a ridiculous "pfsh" sound upon impact.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 17 February 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

I went through a phase of licking peoples faces as a greeting.

alix (alix), Thursday, 17 February 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

I often do the thumb-hooking handshake, sometimes followed by the pull-in half hug.

With certain friends I do a Viking-style armshake where you grab the others forearm up near the elbow and say things like "May our paths cross again in the halls of Valhalla."

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 February 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

i see *runs away*

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Thursday, 17 February 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

seven years pass...

where did the double t-rex hand wave that girls do come from? it's like a "no wait you got it all wrong!" gesture before someone gets shot in a movie but instead of them backing up desperately they're walking forward happily.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 20:23 (twelve years ago)

I don't know what you're talking about but I like the T. Rex reference point.

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 20:26 (twelve years ago)

maybe it's a california thing? "hello!" "hi!" (t-rex double hand wave)

christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 20:27 (twelve years ago)

I do the t rex double hand wave but I am a t rex

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 20:30 (twelve years ago)


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