"all-pervasive"......can I use it in this way?

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I'm writing a character reference for a friend who runs a home-based childcare thing. She is Very Patient!

If I write " ....and her patient, unruffled demeanour is all-pervasive "

does it make sense or am I mis-using the term? I'm trying to say that she has the kind of calm manner that permeates the place, and everyone there just seems to go ' Ahhhhh ' Or have you got a better way to say it?
I have to get this to her today!

donna (donna), Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"All-pervasive" sounds kind of awkward. Why not just say it the way you explained it? Something like "...and her patient, unruffled demeanor puts everyone at ease." ??

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Cool, yep you're right. thanks heaps :-)
It just got worse 'n worse and grew more fiddly the more I thought about it.

donna (donna), Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Side issue: I can't decide if "all-pervasive" is redundant or not. I suppose it could mean that the thing in question pervades all things, as opposed to just lots of things. But really, I think pervasive already carries the connotation of the "all" along with it.

nabiscothingy, Thursday, 17 February 2005 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I was going to say you could just say "pervasive" instead of "all-pervasive," but then I started to doubt myself and overthink it.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 February 2005 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm, don't use it. Pervasive or all-pervasive maens that she pervades everything, which has a connotation of being invasive / all over something. Better to say something like: "she applies her patient, unruffled demeanour to every task at hand" or some shit.

paulhw (paulhw), Thursday, 17 February 2005 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

pervasive carries negative connotations. don't know if it should, etymologically, but it does. SHE WILL PERVADE YOUR CHILDREN omg. (phoneme "perv" may be coincidental, hold on...)

f--gg (gcannon), Thursday, 17 February 2005 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

(N/A I've decided to answer our question by going around saying "semi-pervasive" until someone tries to correct me.)

nabiscothingy, Thursday, 17 February 2005 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

no connection! per+vade (through+walk) vs per+vert (through+turn)

f--gg (gcannon), Thursday, 17 February 2005 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

the oed, hours of semi-fun.

f--gg (gcannon), Thursday, 17 February 2005 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe I'm a day late, but I've got that dollar you were missing.

" ....and her patient, unruffled demeanour is all-pervasive "

No, this does not say what you indicated you wanted to say. Luckily, the fix is simple. You may amend your phrasing to:

" ....and her patient, unruffled demeanour is an all-pervasive influence"

This fix preserves the original wording you seem to be attached to - while making your intended meaning much clearer. I hope this helps.

Aimless (Aimless), Friday, 18 February 2005 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)


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