do you allow any emotionally significant event to occur in your life without sharing your thoughts on said event with friends, possibly numerous friends?

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does it give you any special pleasure to keep such moments (good and, especially, bad) to yourself? or do you have a compulsive need to call someone and sort out your thoughts aloud as soon as something happens to you?

or somewhere in between?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 18 February 2005 07:49 (twenty years ago)

pretend for the purpose of this question that ilx does not exist.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 18 February 2005 07:53 (twenty years ago)

What happened? Good or bad? Give us a hint.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 18 February 2005 07:58 (twenty years ago)

Oh, sorry. That wasn't the thread question.

I have a compulsive need to sort things out, but I hate talking on the phone, so it takes... uh... other forms.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 18 February 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)

well, i'm extremely verbal in terms of how i deal with things. i have this faith--which often proves naïve--that i can talk through most anything. and in fact having long conversations with friends often proves successfully cathartic, or cathartic enough that i can relax and finally go to sleep, in any event. but since so much has been happening to me lately, i've been bothering my friends a lot, and i'm very concerned about it. things become very imbalanced.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 18 February 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)

As long as you listen to your friends, I think things will be fine. I wish you well, Amateur(ist), but that is not a way of saying goodbye.

i have this faith--which often proves naïve--that i can talk through most anything.

People who act upon this belief are truly civilized.

youn, Friday, 18 February 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)

good question am

i don't have that many emotionally significant moments these days it seems so when i do have one i will almost certainly share it with one or two people, maybe mention it here tho i don't bother to do that generally as i do like to keep some things private. i'm not one of those all or nothing people i guess.

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Friday, 18 February 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

haha most emotionally significant events I keep to myself. maybe tell one or two people. I internalise.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 18 February 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

Joyful things, I share. Anything bad, and I keep it to myself and seek practical solutions quietly, without making a fuss if at all possible. I don't like to burden other people with my woes (not that I have that many woes, but still...)

C J (C J), Friday, 18 February 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

do you allow any emotionally significant event to occur in your life without sharing your thoughts on said event with friends, possibly numerous friends?

for as long as i can get away with it.

stockholm cindy's secret world with martin bashir (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 18 February 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

All the time.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Friday, 18 February 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

I share, but with very few people. I won't give hints to someone I'm not comfortable telling everything to.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 18 February 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

I usually end up telling someone. Possibly someone who has guessed something is wrong and keeps asking me until I share.

I don't know if it helps to share everything, or talk too much? Sometimes you just end up going over and over things.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 18 February 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

There's one work colleague I've been sharing a lot with lately. His desk is near mine, and we both start work a long time before everyone else here, so it's natural for us to get chatting. Plus, he's the only person I've found here who genuinely does seem to be able to keep things to himself, so I trust him to not tell everyone about stuff I don't want getting round.

(not that I tell him *everything*, but I do tell him a lot more than anyone else)

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 18 February 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

People who act upon this belief are truly civilized.

that's a nice thing to hear, honestly. my ex used to wonder why i voiced my anxieties about things so often, but then she seems to get herself into circumstances she can't bear by not thinking or talking them over beforehand. i think what she didn't understand was that my talking through things--my admitting my anxieties and doubts, even if they weren't flattering-- was not a way of avoiding things but of dealing with them. and that her not talking or not acknowledging her own anxieties and doubts didn't make them any lesser.

anyway i'm a bit off the subject. i know the role of my compulsion to personal revelation in the context of a romance: it can be both bracingly necessary and uncomfortably demanding. maybe i could stand to be more judicious about it.

but in the context of a friendship, it's odder because it is less of a dialogue than, at times, a monologue that i'm subjecting my friends to (even if, for the moment, they seem happy to listen to me; and even if, on most occasions, they interject with thoughts and stories of their own). and i don't want my friends to associate me exclusively with that. which was never a danger before now--or at least, it's a situation that's become much worse. because of a series of ups and downs and because i've been unusually self-absorbed this past year (i've even stopped reading the paper).

the global solution to this is probably the old "get out more" but i worry too about a tendency to start babbling about myself to near-strangers. i was chatting up a girl at an event recently and i gave unusually involved responses to what were fairly simple questions (i.e. "what school do you want to go do?"). to her credit and my surprise, she seemed to follow me without a hint of being restless, and responded in kind. but other times i can feel myself boring people. but i'm almost more enamored of my habit of loquaciousness (loggorhea?) than of actually making friends.

one thing i almost never do--with surprisingly few and mostly irrelevant exceptions--is discuss my personal life with anyone at work. i've always thought of that as a boundary it's very, very wise not to cross. perhaps this doesn't work for other people.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 18 February 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

When I was a teenager, I spent years and years being taken to expensive psychotherapists being *taught* how to talk through my feelings and not bottle them up or express them through rage or self harm or other inappropriate behaviour. This saved my life, quite literally.

So I'll be damned before I give up this precious gift. My good friends, my real friends, are the people to whom I can talk about absolutely anything. And I do my best to reciprocate and be there as confidant or sounding board or advice or whatever whatever they need to talk through.

But I think that is the key. That it is a reciprocal exchange. If one person is always the sharer and the other is always the sharee, that is off balance. I've learned to avoid those situations.

Kate Kept Me Alive! (kate), Friday, 18 February 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

Depends on the friend, depends on the situation.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 February 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

if it is good, I share the joy, if it is bad, my husband can tell and talks to me/cuddles until I talk it out and feel better. He and maybe my parents are the only ones I share with.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 18 February 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

Same here. I have had too many bad experiences with telling "friends" personal/sensitive things, thinking that they would respond in a, you know, friendly way, only to find out it was all just grist for their rumor mill. I keep that shit on the DL now.

sugarpants (sugarpants), Friday, 18 February 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

I think I tend to share too much sometimes to the point that afterwards I wish I'd kept some of it to myself.

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Friday, 18 February 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

I am an extremely verbal person who cannot talk to anyone about the biggest problems in my life. Hence, the insomnia. Also, ILX.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 18 February 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

Damn I wz gonna log out for that

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 18 February 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

I'm more apt to mention an event than I am to mention my ruminations on said event.

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 18 February 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

I'll tell my friends most personal stuff and they tell me about their life too, but I won't talk about the bad stuff in a way of asking for advice because I know how pointless this can be.

I've stopped discussing personal problems as much as I've gotten older, not sure why this is maybe I would just like to spend more time with my friends having fun and being daft.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 18 February 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

although that makes me sound like I don't want to listen to their problems, which is of course is not true it's just a one way opinion.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 18 February 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

i'm an extremely adjectival person

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 18 February 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

I've stopped discussing personal problems as much as I've gotten older, not sure why this is maybe I would just like to spend more time with my friends having fun and being daft.

OTM except for the 'older' part, and I've kind of lost my knack for 'having fun and being daft' as well. I vent on the furniture and the machines now mostly.

TOMBOT, Friday, 18 February 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

My role model for dealing with 'emotionally significant' events remains my father, and I'm pretty positive I've never heard him say much of anything 'emotionally significant' in 26 years - he sure does know how to bring home the bacon, though.

TOMBOT, Friday, 18 February 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

The initial comment is kinda the thesis of 'Men are from Mars etc', only reversed, maybe? I never talk to anyone about any non-fun stuff, though perhaps this is only managable 'cos the good/bad balance of my life is quite luckily skewed, I dunno.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 18 February 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Tom I think you might be my brother Tim, you two are pretty much the same person except that he is a hospital administrator instead of a top military expert

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 18 February 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

What Lex said.

W i l l (common_person), Friday, 18 February 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Nobody else's damn business as far as I'm concerned

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 18 February 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

If the "emotionally significant event" is something that's immediate and has really rattled me, then I'm not very good at keeping it to myself: I usually feel jumpy and need a release. If it's more just something that's been bothering me, a problem I've been gnawing on, then there's really only a few people I'll talk to about it. But it also depends on whether it's something I'm embarrassed about or not.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 February 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

(I just realized that I read the question as being about something bad rather than good.)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 February 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

What Tom and Elvis said. At most I'll share with another person - a close friend or someone I'm in a relationship with. But that's rare unless the other person should know out of need or civility.

I'm not uncomfortable talking about feelings, I just don't like it much. I also can't keep a journal, writing something down feels redundant to the constant internal monologue/dialogue I've got about feelings and events.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 18 February 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

(In which case -- xpost to myself -- lately I've been worried that I've been sharing good news with friends in a way that may come off as boastful.)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 February 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

in the case of a 'bad' event, yes, it's in the immediate or near-immediate aftermath that i'll feel this compulsion (and it is a compulsion, more on that later perhaps) to talk to a friend, to anyone practically. it's actually just a need to talk so as to keep my thoughts in some kind of order so as not to get truly depressed. it almost doesn't matter, sometimes, who the person listening is. this is what makes me guilty, that what i really need is simply to talk to myself, or write in a journal. (none of this is absolute. certainly there are times i'd really like to talk to a *specific* friend and hear what they have to say. but there are many other times when the need to talk to achieve catharsis supersedes any desire to speak to this or that particular person. and so i worry that my friends will perceive that i'm effectively using them as sounding boards and little more, and lose patience.)

i tend to be much, much more reluctant to share good news. perhaps it's a bit dishonest, but i enjoy friends simply picking up on the fact that you're in good spirits and then teasing the reason out of you. sometimes i'll refrain from telling altogether. so i guess what i had uppermost in my mind when i made this thread was, in fact, bad news.

amateurist, logged out, Friday, 18 February 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

this thread probably illustrates my problem quite well in itself.

i'm fundamentally not comfortable using ilx for the aforementioned purposes, though. which is why on threads like this i persist in being cagey about anything actually happening to me.

amateurist, logged out, Friday, 18 February 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

I usually don't share anything about what I'm feeling, ever, except to a special CHOSEN FEW!

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Friday, 18 February 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

i should mention that the real problem is when i wake my friends up at odd hours of the night, though this has happened perhaps a half dozen times in my life.

but the compulsion is often there and i find there are only a few things i can do to successfully resist it: watch a movie that i find familiar and comforting (even if it's not a happy film, in fact, it seems to work best if the film has some cathartic, unhappy element) or listen to a piece of music i find familiar and comforting. i can lose myself in contemplation of the film or music (this doesn't work with novels, for some reason). i guess this is a basic function of art which just becomes clearer in moments of heightened emotions--of greater need.

but whatever method i choose of preventing myself from being left alone with my anxieties, i'm not getting any sleep. so this anxiety does prove harmful in that -- in times of emotional stress -- i'm always tired.

amateurist, logged out, Friday, 18 February 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

drugs work, of course, but one shouldn't be dependent on those.

amateurist, logged out, Friday, 18 February 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

I definitely share too much. I have a tendency to voice my feelings to the point where it ANNOYS EVERYBODY I KNOW. I've been trying to change this habit for awhile but seem to have trouble. I'm just too anxious and obsessive to keep troubles to myself. So I definitely understand where you are coming from.

gunther heartymeal, Friday, 18 February 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

question 1: does this break down along gender lines, overall?
question 2: if so, is it nature or nurture or a combination of both?
question 3: does anyone care about questions #1 or #2 but me?

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 18 February 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

i wonder about it, if only because i tend to think of my habit as a "feminine" one, for better or worse.

i should add that i'm not usually so compulsive, or so ruminative about being compulsive. i have a tremendous amount of anxiety right now about my future (again: i'm being cagey, sorry) which i think is what's really keeping me up nights, even if my thoughts tend to circle around other issues (dating, basically). that anxiety should be resolved within two months. i'm looking forward to it, one way or another.

amateurist, logged out, Friday, 18 February 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

best of luck, ams, whatever it is.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 18 February 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

thanks!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 18 February 2005 23:11 (twenty years ago)

I am an extremely verbal person who cannot talk to anyone about the biggest problems in my life. Hence, the insomnia. Also, ILX.

-- The Obligatory Sourpuss (expresso222...), February 18th, 2005 7:17 AM.

Is precisely my plight. On the (very) few attempts I've made to talk about deep/meaningful issues I realize that in issues of the heart I'm woefully inadequate or out of practice at communicating. So I don't bother, and, frankly, am not bothered by this inability. Furthermore - when I do articulate real botherances they're incredibly insubstantial and I sound flaky and self-occupied. I've got a pretty good life, and I don't want to foist my neuroses onto somebody else. And I don't like being told that this is unhealthy, because psychologically speaking I feel I'm one of the healthiest people I know.

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Friday, 18 February 2005 23:21 (twenty years ago)

Elvis, and those who concur, when you are in a relationship with someone, it *is* their damn business, and required for any healthy communication.

Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 18 February 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

The problem is, that somewhere along the lines of *having* a relationship, your S.O. goes from being the person with whom you talk about all your problems, to *being* the problem that you need to talk about most. :-(

I've also had my share of problems of being grist for the rumour mill due to my frank attitude towards my own life. However, I've found that the solution is to be as honest as possible about what *is* going on with you, and that cuts off a great deal more of the speculation about what you *might* be doing, that the rumour mill tends to focus on.

It's harder for people to believe outrageous lies and BS when they've heard the actual story in first person. I hope.

Kate Kept Me Alive! (kate), Saturday, 19 February 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

My life is pretty stable most of the time, so it can really throw me when things get rough. When something bad does happen, I'm often completely unable to keep it inside, so I'm really lucky to have friends who can put up with my nattering until I'm either:

a) all talked out about it and can continue to sort it out in my head,

or

b) over it completely.

I also do my best to be there for them in kind.

Tantrum (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 19 February 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

I still call my mother when things go very badly or very well. Also, livejournal is good for obsessing about things that don't have to do with interpersonal relations (I will never passive-aggressively write shit about someone on there). I try not to talk to my friends too much, though, because I already get the feeling I go on about my life too much and I complain too much and it's boring.

Maria (Maria), Saturday, 19 February 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

i guess if my friends have been tolerant of me so far, it's because except on occasion i don't tend to talking in a mode of abject despair, but rather maintain a certain detachment and humor about everything, no matter how serious. (well, at least for a while. if i talk too long sometimes i end up at a point of exhaustion and humorlessness.)

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 19 February 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

I tend to talk in a general mode of being slightly pissed off. This isn't a good thing.

Maria (Maria), Saturday, 19 February 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

yeah, that can be unbecoming.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 19 February 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

Somewhere inbetween. I keep a lot of things to myself. I make light of things that maybe are bigger problems than I reckon, and perhaps it'd be good to talk about it, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 19 February 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

When I fucked your wife, I didn't tell everybody.

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Saturday, 19 February 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)


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