I think it happened when this weird lyrics website started installing random shit, and when I tried to uninstall this one dodgy-looking program (in that add/remove programs box you get to through the control panel) it actually ended up deleting EVERYTHING EVER.
Er, help?
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 21 February 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)
What version of Windows? Where abouts were your files?
Most likely if the PC still boots in some form then your files are recoverable, probably in another user account somewhere if it comes to it you take the HDD somewhere and they'll put it in another machine and copy your files off.
If it's XP try pressing f8 when it's starting up and selecting boot from last known working configuration.
If you get it running you'll need to run anti spyware/virus stuff ASAP.
Post as much info about your PC setup as you can.
― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 21 February 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)
Does this bring anything up?
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Monday, 21 February 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)
xpost - phew, people who know more than I do about this
― beanz (beanz), Monday, 21 February 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)
how do I take my hard drive to another computer? What is dos?
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 21 February 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 21 February 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)
My guess some piece of spyware is causing explorer.exe to crash, which is why you have no start menu etc as that is just explorer.exe running as the shell.
Okay what kind of files are on the PC and how big are they, are we talking a few word docs or thousands of mp3s/videos.
Do you have a CD-RW, USB Key or any other writable removeable storage?
― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 21 February 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)
God it's a while since i've done 98 and this is from memory.
― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 21 February 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)
― beanz (beanz), Monday, 21 February 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)
cd-rw - ??? - I have a cd burner, and many cd-rs. I don't know what cd-rw is.
usb key - I don't know what this is either. the computer has a USB port but I don't use it, and my housemate has the USB cable in his room somewhere.
re: task manager - I can't even get into it. when the computer boots there is literally nothing on the screen.
I'll try dos though I wouldn't know where to start with it...
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 21 February 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)
"when I press Ctrl+Alt+Del there are no programs running at all when it turns on"
There's a menu here where you can do file/run and run programs using this we may be able to restore enough functionality to get stuff off/working again but I need to know whether it's working and exactly how fucked explorer is, there are other things we can do here such as run msconfig and remove nasty programmes, run other stuff like the legacy winfile etc.
There are 2 options here get the machine working again or get the files off then reinstall windows.
If I had direct access to the machine I could do either most likely, my advice to you is seek out a geek if thats impossible we'll soldier on.
― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 21 February 2005 11:56 (twenty years ago)
if so.. you probably need to just reinstall windows.
― ken c (ken c), Monday, 21 February 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)
I can't see any menu when I press Ctrl Alt Del, just the box where normally everythhing which is running is listed. nothing is running, and the only buttons are End Task, Shut Down and Cancel.
is it possible that I have actually deleted everything on my computer? Because after the lyrics site fucked things up the first time (it installed something called 180search assistant) I went to Add/Remove Programs and uninstalled all the dodgy ones which weren't there before - there was one called SideBar? (or something - SideSomething), and when I uninstalled that everything kind of disappeared.
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 21 February 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Monday, 21 February 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)
after typing DIR lots of stff came up - it says 14 file(s) and 15 dir(s), is this a good sign?? what do I type now?
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 21 February 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)
Your not going to be able to do a whole lot with them but at least you'll know they're still there.
― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 21 February 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)
― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 21 February 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)
― beanz (beanz), Monday, 21 February 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)
― beanz (beanz), Monday, 21 February 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)
how do I know what all the directory names are? cd (program name) doesn't seem to work.
also, what do I do now?
(thanks everyone for your help so far btw, much appreciated)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 21 February 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)
― caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 21 February 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)
You won't be able to open most files because you can't run the programs they run on, eg Word, in DOS.
Navigate to the directory with your word docs in it and then type copy followed by the doc name then a: For examplecopy docname.doc a:
― beanz (beanz), Monday, 21 February 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Monday, 21 February 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)
ken if I reinstall windows does that mean I should retrieve all the files beforehand? or will they be there after I reinstall? I'm not coming to FT unfortunately but I can email someone my address and pay for postage if necessary...
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 21 February 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)
― caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 21 February 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)
also - once I get a windows 98 cd is it really obvious how to reinstall without buggering everything up? or shall I get someone over to make sure everything goes OK (ken???)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 21 February 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)
To reinstall, you just switch the computer on with the CD in the CD drive (although you might have to alter the settings to get it to look at the CD drive before the hard disk)
― caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 21 February 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)
― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 21 February 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 21 February 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 21 February 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)
This may be caused by a virus, but I think it could also be caused by a hard disk failure. In the latter case, reinstalling may not get you far; and depending on the virus, it may only temporarily fix the former case.
Main point: you have almost certainly not lost what data you have there, with any luck at all. That can be recovered. I'm not certain whether your computer can be.
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 21 February 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)
Dude its not Final Fantasy 7
― Fat Anarchy on Airtube (ex machina), Monday, 21 February 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)
Sorting problems like this across the web makes me frustrated if I was there I could sort it in 30 mins or so.
― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 21 February 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)
WAIT!
If you have saved your files in the My Documents folder, there's a very good chance that just reinstalling Windows will wipe out all of your files! If you saved them in another directory you should be fine, but if you save them automatically into the My Documents folder, find a way to move them first. You can do that by creating a directory at the C: level from the command line:
mkdir c:\recovered
Then you'll have to find the original files you want to save in the My Documents folder, and copy them to the new directory. You can probably do this by cd'ing (change directory) to the My Documents dir and when you're there, typing "copy *.* c:\recovered". (It's been a while since I've dealt with Win98, so I'm a bit rusty.)
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 21 February 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 21 February 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)
I CAN LEAD YOU THROUGH THE KERNEL DISPLACEMENT RECOVERY PROCESS
― Sven Bastard (blueski), Monday, 21 February 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)
― caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 21 February 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)
― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 21 February 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)
wouldn't the easiest way to recover to have someone plug their disk into his computer?
also - isn't there someway to start taskman.exe? Maybe control escape?
― Fat Anarchy on Airtube (ex machina), Monday, 21 February 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 21 February 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)
― alix (alix), Monday, 21 February 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)
(I don't know anything about cutting hair btw)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 21 February 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)
A really really horrible hack that might be worth trying:
Boot into DOSEdit the file C:\WINDOWS\WIN.INIChange the line 'run=' to 'run=PROGMAN.EXE' (without the quotes)Reboot!*Hopefully* this will make it fire up the old Win3.1 Program Manager when it boots, which at least gives you a "Run..." menu item that you can use to start programs and so on.
― caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 21 February 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 21 February 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)
― Fat Anarchy on Airtube (ex machina), Monday, 21 February 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)
― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Monday, 21 February 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)
is the startup group processed by explorer.exe?
I'm afraid I don't actually understand anything in this sentence :(
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 21 February 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)
― caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 21 February 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)
― caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 21 February 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)
(thanks everyone for the help btw, it really is appreciated)
― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)
ok i have a really fucking mysterious and super annoying computer (mac) problem
so i've been working on a project in final cut for the last few weeks
today i go to open it—by clicking on the project name in the "recently opened" menu
it doesnt open for some reason. weird!
so i go to look for the file itself in the folder where i left it (on an external HD)...
it's GONE.
the file has just... disappeared.
it's not in the trash. spotlight can't find it anywhere.
perhaps coincidentally, perhaps not, NONE of the autosaves will open—assuming they're all corrupt.
i've NEVER encountered this before—a file just going missing.
help.
please help.
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:28 (twelve years ago)
oh ya btw deadline is tomorrow :)
halp
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:41 (twelve years ago)
Versions help?
― Euler, Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:49 (twelve years ago)
currently googling to see if there's any good process for this, most of what I'm finding says "use ls -ai from a Terminal window to see if the files are really gone" which doesn't do much to explain why this would happen in the first place
can you navigate to the external drive without problem?
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:50 (twelve years ago)
is that an app?
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:50 (twelve years ago)
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:50 AM (19 seconds ago) Bookmark
yes i can!
can you explain how to use that terminal command? right now, i'd like to find the file, then figure out why it happened later
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:51 (twelve years ago)
Terminal is an app, it's the command line for your machine
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:51 (twelve years ago)
but yeah, the drive is otherwise (touch wood) working normally
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:51 AM (15 seconds ago) Bookmark
i know—i was asking about the "Versions help?" question
idk about this at all and don't use a mac, but googling has some ideas about downloading an app to view hidden files or booting into safe mode and looking in the root directory for 'previous versions'.
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:53 (twelve years ago)
open it, type
cd "/Name of Your External Hard Drive"
and see if that works. if so, navigate to the right folder by typing
cd FOlder/Folder/etc
and then typing ls -ai to list the files in that folder
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:53 (twelve years ago)
i've turned hidden files on but revealed nothing :/
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:53 (twelve years ago)
do you use Time Machine? if so just rewind to an earlier time?
this didn't work but it also didn't work with any of my drives, is there a character missing here or something?
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:55 (twelve years ago)
i stopped using time machine because it corrupted all my external HDs
i hate HDs :(
i dont know why i didnt do this already, but i'm ejecting my HDs and remounting them in hopes of a miracle
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:56 (twelve years ago)
http://www.premiumbeat.com/blog/fcpx-bug-best-practices-for-using-external-hard-drives-and-final-cut-pro-x/
dunno if this is in any way helpful
"ls" is a command for listing the contents of a directory in Linux and -ai are options that modify its behavior ("a" prints out hidden files, "i" includes the OS index number for the file, which helps the OS keep track of its files and directories; more info on options can be found here: http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_ls.htm)
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:56 (twelve years ago)
from now i'm keeping all my project files in dropbox, i'll tell you that much
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:57 (twelve years ago)
HOLY SHIT
rebooting the HD... worked??!?!
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:58 (twelve years ago)
what the hell happened there?!??!
ha figures
#1 rule of troubleshooting: first try a power cycle
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:59 (twelve years ago)
i know you're always supposed to do that but it never ~actually~ works
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 15 August 2013 15:00 (twelve years ago)
that's on par with like, smacking the machine
thanks tho guys
rah
― "fear of putting out" in one's early thirties (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2013 15:02 (twelve years ago)
running diskwarrior now
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 15 August 2013 15:02 (twelve years ago)
feeling a bit like television's dr house today :)
you may want to check out that "best practices" link anyway for future reference
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Thursday, 15 August 2013 15:02 (twelve years ago)
Burn that file to a dvd first
xxp
― cops on horse (WilliamC), Thursday, 15 August 2013 15:03 (twelve years ago)
ya that's handy thanks!
i really wish time machine worked for me, but it has borked multiple drives
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 15 August 2013 15:03 (twelve years ago)
from now on in addition to keeping everything duplicated across multiple drives (media files), i'm gonna keep the project files themselves (generally around a few MB) in a dropbox folder on my internal HD so they're insta-backed up and versionable
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 15 August 2013 15:04 (twelve years ago)
anything mission-crit i keep in my dropbox
― 乒乓, Thursday, 15 August 2013 15:07 (twelve years ago)
i would pay dropbox all the moneys if i could.... best app ever
ya, i usually do keep everything there but sometimes FCP projects end up outside of it... NOT ANYMORE PAL
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 15 August 2013 15:09 (twelve years ago)
btw, similar tip, started using everpix last week and LOVE it, have you tried that shit
sorry, should probably have been:
cd "/Volumes/Name of Your External Hard Drive"
but that is moot now. whew @ your happy result!!
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 15 August 2013 15:41 (twelve years ago)
versions is that thing that archives old versions of files, was thinking that maybe your "corrupted" backups might be recoverable that way
― Euler, Thursday, 15 August 2013 15:43 (twelve years ago)
always love to see these things having a happy ending
― just sayin, Thursday, 15 August 2013 15:49 (twelve years ago)
everpix sounds cool i will give it a try xp
― 乒乓, Thursday, 15 August 2013 15:51 (twelve years ago)
ya it's sort of calmed my digital photo anxiety. i had literally thousands on multiple hard drives, online photo services, my phone, various versions of iphoto and lightroom, and it just found them all instantly and dealt with them, even got rid of dups
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 15 August 2013 16:05 (twelve years ago)
i can browse 10 years of my photos on my phone, too, which is sick
there's something very affecting abotu seeing all your photos, from all different kinds of cameras and phoens and whatever, arranged all in order
sexy photoes
― am0n, Thursday, 15 August 2013 16:08 (twelve years ago)
everpix sounds p great tbh
― "fear of putting out" in one's early thirties (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2013 16:10 (twelve years ago)
"The User Profile Service failed the logon. User profile cannot be loaded."
― i kid because i glove (darraghmac), Saturday, 4 January 2014 14:20 (eleven years ago)
system restore is ur friend.
performed my first-ever such on 28/12/2013
― i kid because i glove (darraghmac), Saturday, 4 January 2014 14:45 (eleven years ago)
maybe thats what fuckin caused it otoh, idk
― i kid because i glove (darraghmac), Saturday, 4 January 2014 14:46 (eleven years ago)