AARP hates the troops and loves homos (all because they oppose privitizing Social Security)

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truth is stranger than fiction.

though i've linked to daily kos, apparently this ad is running on the american spectator's webpage. lovely.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 21 February 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

rip, hst. at least you didn't have to witness THIS.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 21 February 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

Hahahah. I love me hilarity. Pretzel logic indeed.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 21 February 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/ has got some choice observations up.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 21 February 2005 22:52 (twenty years ago)

only GIRLY MEN would oppose privatizing SS. fucking up a fundamentally sound program, and sticking future SS claimants with enough debt to sink TWENTY argentinas is, well, so MANLY.

and art linklater (!) is fronting for these ass-clowns!!

this is not a serious country any more.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 21 February 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

The quality of political debate in your country makes the bidding war over who can be more of a cunt to immigrants in my country positively intellectual.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 21 February 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

http://www.phillips-it.com/images/gop.gif

― Fat Anarchy on Airtube (ex machina), Monday, 21 February 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

http://www.mackron.com/random/fingergirl.jpg

― Fat Anarchy on Airtube (ex machina), Monday, 21 February 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

hahaha I LOVE YOU JDUBS.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 21 February 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

That was my idea, Jon!

― Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Monday, 21 February 2005 23:16 (twenty years ago)

twas!

― Fat Anarchy on Airtube (ex machina), Monday, 21 February 2005 23:18 (twenty years ago)

http://www.epicharmus.com/WELIKEBABIES.gif

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)

I went to a seminar once put on by OLAC, Old Lesbians Advocating for Change, they don't seem to have a website. I don't know how they feel about the war. They fucking kicked ass though.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 01:00 (twenty years ago)

Teeny would you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE find them and send them over to Art Linkletter's house, 'cause his prolapsed wrinkly old ass needs a kicking NOW!!! k bye

― Hunter (Hunter), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 03:43 (twenty years ago)

http://www.umkc.edu/lib/spec-col/Truman/PresSpeeches/taft.jpg

I was a fat president. And I hate social security and gays.

― William Howard Taft, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 04:05 (twenty years ago)

The quality of political debate in your country makes the bidding war over who can be more of a cunt to immigrants in my country positively intellectual.

taking the ad at face value, that is certainly so. there are still a disturbingly large % of people over here who believe that joe mccarthy was RIGHT. it goes w/t saying that the ad ITSELF is shameless humbug.

however, as a TACTIC ... well, it's straight outta karl rove's book innit? by THAT comment, i mean: (a) create a diversion -- an ad so ridiculous and over-the-top that it's damn near IMPOSSIBLE to ignore; (b) get the various media blowhards to talk about it (the righties b/c they all have hivemind and [what passes for] the lefties screaming outrage [blissfully unaware that that's part of the rove-ian plan]); (c) stir dissension among the ranks of AARP (which is officially non-partisan), thereby paralyzing them. dubya doesn't call rove "turd-blossom" for nothing, you know :-)

to use a football analogy -- the dems are beating the repugs BADLY on the whole privatization debate (not to mention that the gannon/guckert manwhore story was BEGINNING to get some traction in the press), so the repugs are throwing a hail mary. hopefully, the dems aren't all hovering around scrimmage -- maybe they've got SOMEONE in the secondary, or a headcoach (dean? kerry?) screaming "EYE ON THE BALL!" on the sidelines. i'm not too hopeful.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 05:47 (twenty years ago)

private memo to the dems: DON'T TALK ABOUT THIS STUPID AD. DON'T LET THEM TALK ABOUT THIS STUPID AD. KEEP KICKING THEM IN THE NUTS RE WHAT A RIP-OFF "PRIVATIZATION" IS.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 05:50 (twenty years ago)

Awesome, yes. Nicely put.

Plz DO keep Photoshopping (Image Ready-ing? That sounds stupid) this ad, though. For me.

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 05:58 (twenty years ago)

Tad, I'm unsure how c) is supposed to follow from a) and b).

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 05:58 (twenty years ago)

I mean, I understand the ad's possible usefulness as a distraction, but how it leads us to dissension, well, that's hazier to me.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 06:01 (twenty years ago)

A reader at TalkingPoints noticed that in fact there are two other ads up not yet publicly run:

http://www.spectator.org/_ads/3.gif

http://www.spectator.org/_ads/6.gif

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 06:08 (twenty years ago)

Tad, I'm unsure how c) is supposed to follow from a) and b).

fair enough, i wasn't very clear in connecting the points. as to creating dissension w/n AARP -- AARP is officially non-partisan, which means that there are BOTH republicans and democratic members of AARP. on account of this ad, the dems get angry (understandably) saying nasty things about the GOP and the republicans. the republican AARP members get all pissed off, and besides this USA Next outfit (which is sponsoring this ad) is churning out GOP-friendly literature full of pro-privatization soundbites. that may NOT cause a mass exodus of GOP AARP members to USA Next, or republican AARP members agitating for AARP to drop its anti-privatization stance. but it MAY be enough to throw AARP off their game, for at least a little bit.

capisce?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 06:11 (twenty years ago)

Mais oui.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 06:14 (twenty years ago)

re GOP-friendly USA Next shilling, here's a link to -- and a print-out of --their spokesman art linkletter's spiel:

I’d like to ask some blunt questions: Do you want more taxes taken out of your earnings? Do you want more unelected bureaucrats taking over more details of your life and your family’s life? Do you want federal regulators making your health choices, instead of you, your family, and your doctor? Do you want government regulators to control the investment and retirement decisions of your family, instead of you?

If you answered “Yes,” then AARP is your group....

THIS is what i mean by "creating dissension."

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 06:14 (twenty years ago)

divide and conquer, you're thinking?

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 06:23 (twenty years ago)

Fight the real enemy!

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/garp_agenda.gif

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 06:24 (twenty years ago)

http://www.spectator.org/_ads/6.gif

At least they didn't put NAMBLA there!

― Fat Anarchy on Airtube (ex machina), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 09:15 (twenty years ago)

Thank fuck someone's out there exposing all those terrifying LIBERAL AGENDAS.

― lock robster (robster), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

The ad got pulled.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

Oh man, just last week my parents told me they had quit AARP because they thought they were too liberal. wtf

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

i think that atrios' take is OTMFM wr2 USA Next's/Roveco's strategy.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

also, USA Next's CEO is a fellow named charles jarvis, who used to be exec vp for homo-hater james dobson's "focus on the family.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

do conservatives hate good ad design? or is that ugly-ass shit more effective?
http://www.spectator.org/_ads/3.gif

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

same thoughts as atrios, but more in-depth.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

HAhaha to this ad on The American Spectator:

http://www.spectator.org/_ads/matt_furey_120x180.gif

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

is that jeff gannon?

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

interestingly, this blogger has claimed that USA Next took the picture from the ad without any OK from the source.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 24 February 2005 07:13 (twenty years ago)

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