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in tonites episode--zac braff moves out, there is complications, he moves back in w. carla and company--before suggesting a foursome, with his new gf...

and the last thing said b/c carla and her husband was we're in trouble arent we, which sort of broke down the fun

so i was thinking is this gonna be the first show on television to introduce three in love ?

― anthony, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

SPEAK ENGLISH

― LeCoq (LeCoq), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

Is Scrubs out on DVD? i haven't seen beyond series 3

surely there's been another TV threesome?

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

i do speak english, and well.

turk and carla and jd were rooming together.
turk and carla asked jd to move out.
jd moved out, but not ot his gfs house b/c she was waiting.
jd went thru hell.

jd moved back to turk and carlas house.
there was some fondness b/w them.

turk and carla said to each other at the end, we are in trouble now, arent we.

i wonder, then if there is some weird sexual tension b/w jd/carla/turk and if it would be the first trio in tv history--b/c it seems to be heading that way.

what does everyone else think about this.

― anthony, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

i think it means there's a fourth individual in bed with them and it resembles a GIANT SHARK

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

I was sort of hoping this was about the other kind of scrubs — the kind TLC used to rap about.

Either one is pretty good, though. I guess.

― sugarpants (sugarpants), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

I think it just means that Turk and Carla are in trouble in their relationship because they don't care enough about each other to do the things that J.D. does for them (the gossiping and the toe/finger game). Remember? They asked J.D. at the end why he did all those things, and he said "I don't know, I guess if you care about a person enough you'll do whatever it takes to make them happy." Then the camera cuts to Turk and Carla on the couch with the glum faces and she makes the we're in trouble comment. I predict they will be single again soon.

― Rebekkah (burntbrat), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

There is almost no way in hell that there is going to be a threesome between JD, Turk and Carla.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

WHY DO YOU KILL THE DREAM DAN PAERRY?!

― Zebra, Alpha Go! (cprek), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

im not talking sexually, there already is one emotionally, that is what this episode was about, new kinds of family. (brown bear?!)

― anthony, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

"Two of them have trouble having fun without a mutual friend around to whom they relate individually instead of relating directly to each other when they're not having sex" is continents and language groups away from "they're all three in love with each other."

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

If this episode was about a new kind of family, Turk and Carla wouldn't actually be in trouble.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

surely there's been another TV threesome?

come and knock on our door...

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

im still maintaining that a subtext occured.

― anthony, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

There pretty surely is a subtext there, I would say it's always been there even.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

Well yeah, the subtext is that Turk and Carla don't work without JD's presence and Turk and Carla aren't exactly happy about it.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

god i am so behind i shouldn't look at this thread. i can't wait to see the Heather Graham episodes tho... must sort out hard drive space for torrentsssss...

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

That's not very sub-, although I guess it's not spelled out explicitly. There's the "Turk and JD are buddies, really close buddies, hmm we're about two beers away from a circle jerk, aren't we brown bear?" vibe, but that's a standard sitcom trope now. Potsie and Ralph would be in the same boat if Happy Days had come after Friends and Drew Carey.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

there is that--and there is the jd/carla and the carla/urk and well thats teh threesome--and the only way to manage to fix it so everyone gets the cuddle is for it to be jd/carla/turk--and i wonder if the episode had a bit of, what have we gotten ourselves into, what are the options (sp) here so we can save the love.

also the circle jerk seems not to happen b/c of social convention and homophobia in other series, this time, im not so sure.

― anthony, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

I'm not discounting what you're saying, Anthony; I just don't think this series is going to explore polyamory.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

(Er, so I am discounting what you're saying but not because I think your analysis of the sitation is incorrect.)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Also, why is it that every time two male characters exprress fondness for each other, it is autmoatically assumed that semen is involved?

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

I think that's the substance of the joke of the trope in question -- not that JD and Turk, Joey and Chandler, Oswald and Lewis, are the least bit gay, but that they're close friends in such a way and at such an age that too much can be read into it. The joke doesn't seem to be about them being gay so much as about the narrow limits of conventional heterosexuality and blah blah blah.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

I don't think that's necessarily true though. Cheech/Chong, Wayne/Garth, Bill/Ted etc. managed the buddy comedy avenue while completely avoiding that particular offramp.

xpost

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

Now that I think about it, it's more that any time a man shows fondness towards someone else it is automatically assumed that he wants to shoot some semen that person's way regardless of gender (see also Frodo and Sam). Hmm.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

If you bring up Frodo and Sam, you bring up the whole prevalence-of-slash-in-fandom thing, which either complicates it or just makes it dumb. This is why I stay out of the pop culture academic community subculture nonsense.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

Damnit, I thought this would be about some kinky doctor/nurse role playing.

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

since the feedback loop of almost all subcultural material in mass-media domain now very much includes the fan* attitude, you can't NOT bring up the slash dimension, really

*fan in the sense of fan-who-forms-communities-and-net-pressure-groups; communities in the sense of webworlds which writers of the subcultural material follow closely, for inspiration and validation

rule of thumb:
gay foax secretly believe everyone is gay
straight foax believe everyone is straight
bi foax etc

all above watch whatever it is, hence the content they find in it IS ACTUALLY THERE, whether you want it or not

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I took freshman English too.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

I hate the way my mind works because I am now mentally inserting into every piece of fiction that comes to mind a scene where a prominent male character presents semen wrapped in a bow to an unspecified friend with a card that says "I care for you! *hugz*"

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

Ergh, Zack Braff making the "I gift you semen! *twinkle*" face.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

FRODO: Frodo wouldn't have made it very far without Sam.
SAM: Oh Mr. Frodo! I gift you semen!

*Hallmark logo*

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

all i'm gettin at tep is that the sexual reading dan is objectin is a way that a fairly vocal claque of fans like to respond to stuff, so the material all gets skewed that way anyway, esp.in the era of
a completed feedback loop of response (but for certain responses only) (ie not so much the "celibate" or just-friends-really-NO-REALLY responses)

i agree that academic study of all this is very often over-excited and thin, and badly written

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

i want to gift z. braff broken bottle.

― f--gg (gcannon), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

I wasn't objecting to it. I was positing that the slash thing is a result of men being viewed as being ruled by their dicks, which is now being fed into by a hyperaware entertainment industry in the aforementioned feedback loop.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

im not talking about strict fucking here, im talking about the no mans land of love,

― anthony, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

sorry dan i tht you sounded like you were a bit fed up of encountering it

(my brane has just entered the room and is pointing out to me the unlikelihood of you of all ppl getting tired of semen-related irrelevance)

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

i dont wnat to talk about semen--i want to talk about this odd, romantic/platonic tension that has deveolped in this cast... and what that means.

― anthony, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

I AM THE WORLD'S TALLEST DOCTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― WORLD'S TALLEST DOCTOR (ex machina), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

"romantic/platonic tension"

I don't know that it's romantic tension, so much as an chance to break up two married characters on a show, therefore opening up new plot opportunities. Perhaps I'm beiny cynical, though.

Asking ILXers not to talk about semen is like asking Dave Chappelle not to yell quite so much.

― sugarpants (sugarpants), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/v29/Crookedi2003/ChapWhat.jpg

― LaToya JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

roffle roffle roffle

― sugarpants (sugarpants), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

surely there's been another TV threesome?

-- Sven Bastard (stevem7...), February 23rd, 2005.

come and knock on my door.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

surely there's been another TV threesome?
come and knock on our door...

-- nickalicious (nickaliciou...), February 23rd, 2005. (nickalicious)

― LaToya JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

surely there's been another TV threesome?
-- Sven Bastard (stevem7...), February 23rd, 2005.

come and knock on my door.

-- firstworldman (3...), February 23rd, 2005 3:08 PM. (firstworldman)

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surely there's been another TV threesome?
come and knock on our door...

-- nickalicious (nickaliciou...), February 23rd, 2005. (nickalicious)

-- LaToya JaXoN (jaso...), February 23rd, 2005 3:17 PM. (JasonD)

I'LL HAVE THE FAROFFLE PLEASE

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

oh right. unplugs self

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

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