Is there any way to get unemployment if you quit your job?

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Is this possible? I'd really like to be a deadbeat for a while....

waxyjax (waxyjax), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

just get yourself fired

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

NO. If your fired you can't collect either I think. You technically need to be "laid off".

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

Unemployment insurance provides workers, whose jobs have been terminated through no fault of their own, monetary payments for a given period of time or until they find a new job. Unemployment payments (compensation) are intended to provide an unemployed worker time to find a new job equivalent to the one lost without financial distress. Without employment compensation many workers would be forced to take jobs for which they were overqualified or end up on welfare. Unemployment compensation is also justified in for sustaining consumer spending during periods of economic adjustment.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

get one downsized

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

You need to make your current employers business fail, without getting sacked.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

I had a friend who was fired for insubordination and got unemployment...

I went here (http://www.labor.state.ny.us/faq/uifaq.htm) and this is what they said would disqualify you:

Voluntary Quit and Misconduct You will be disqualified from receiving unemployment insurance if:

You quit a job without good cause; or
You quit a job due to marriage; or
You lost a job because of misconduct; and
You have not subsequently worked and earned five times your benefit rate.


so "You quit a job without good cause" must mean that you can quit a job and still get unemployment...right? I wonder what they classify as "good cause" though.

waxyjax (waxyjax), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

take a dump on your bosses desk.

good cause probably has to be medical or something

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

In Massachusetts:

According to the law, you may be eligible if you were fired for poor performance. However, if your employer is able to show that you were fired for deliberate misconduct or violation of a company rule, you may be disqualified.

Will I be able to collect UI benefits if I quit my job?
According to the law, if you left your job voluntarily with good cause (attributable to your employer) or for an urgent or compelling personal reason, you may be eligible. However, you must meet all the requirements of the law, including being able to work if a job were offered to you.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

if you're being harrassed or your working situation is untenable you can usually still collect. frankly, even in CA, you can often collect even if you're fired; it depends on what your employer says when they're contacted by the unemployment board.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

your working situation is untenable

does overworked and underpaid count?

waxyjax (waxyjax), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Put it this way - I would give you compensation if I could.

adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

it depends on the state you reside in.

eman (eman), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

In the UK, you're meant to have been made redundant or similar, but I've never had a problem signing on after getting fired or after resigning, or (as with my current situation) my contract running out.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

New York? Anyone?


Put it this way - I would give you compensation if I could.
-- adam.r.l. (adamr...), February 24th, 2005.

that was the light at the end of the tunnel that I was looking for.

waxyjax (waxyjax), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

The best strategy is to go in and say you were made redundant as your work told you that your position was no longer needed. They will be highly unlikely to check up on you.

Failing that quit your job, leave it four weeks and say you went abroad to work but the job abroad never panned out and now you are back.

Again, you're not going to be checked up on.

Anonymous.., Thursday, 24 February 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

a friend of a college friend (both of whom lived in pennsylvania) was able to get unemployment after he was fired -- his boss told him to work over the xmas holidays, the friend-of-a-friend told the boss "uh uh no way it isn't gonna happen," friend-of-a-friend got fired -- and got PA unemployment.

that was 10 years ago, though.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 24 February 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

hmmm, this doesn't seem promising:

One out of every four (26%) UI claims that is rejected in New York because of an
insufficient work history was improperly denied according to the U.S. Department of
Labor’s latest quality control review (Figure 3). This error rate is three times the level of
each of the neighboring states and triple the national average as well. This problem raises
questions related to the reporting of wage information by employers and monitoring of
the system by the state.

http://www.nelp.org/docUploads/pub178%2Epdf

waxyjax (waxyjax), Thursday, 24 February 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

Another thing to keep in mind that, once you get past the unemployment process on the governmental level, your past employer still has to approve giving you the unemployment so even if you "trick" the govt your employer could provide them with alternate information that could get you in truoble.

Allyzay, Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

"It really depends on your boss" is the best answer..

there are few states (The west coast states being three of them) where your employer doesn't necessarily have that much authority over your getting UI benefits or not, in case "something happens". I do know that end-of-contracts and being laid off in WA state, provided you worked in WA at least 9-12 months or so, means you get UI benefits, no questions asked.. (unless there's something in your initial contract preventing you from getting them, which would seem very suspicious to me.)

donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 24 February 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

I actually know someone who was on unemployment for two years and her employer retroactively undermined her by giving difft info to the government, so she was in turn sued by the government for the money she'd collecte until that point, and she had to pay al of it back!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 February 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

I was fired for something that was entirely my fault and then was denied unemployment. It was at that time I was thankful beer came in 12-packs.

laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 24 February 2005 21:55 (twenty years ago)

Surely if you quit your job you have unemployment,,,in that you are unemployed.

Paul Kelly (kelly), Friday, 25 February 2005 02:33 (twenty years ago)

I quit and was fired at the same time and I got unemployment(called in sick for 3 days, when I came back they told me if I didn't have a doctor's note I was terminated, I told them I was done with the job anyway, I still don't know what happened technically). Could have been my manager was cool when the UI office called. I left on pretty good terms, considering. They knew I was burning out/cracking up soon if I didn't leave.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 25 February 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)

(California)

tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 25 February 2005 02:49 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

Am I eligible for unemployment if I am moving for school and don't have work/school for the month of August?

admrl, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:19 (eighteen years ago)

burrito

akm, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

also where is the best burrito in San Francisco and which Basic Channel release is best and who is better, Lee Marvin or Steve McQueen?

xp!

admrl, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

I got fired from a temp assignment after one week. It's complete bullshit, but I'm gonna assume I'm fucked on u/e? (thx adamrl this has been bugging me)

wanko ergo sum, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

adam i think not, but it's different state to state

jergïns, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:24 (eighteen years ago)

one thing I have learned is that unemployment compensation seems to be not very well run or audited in this state, because i know several people who claimed and got benefits when they were let go for reasons that were very much their own fault; and I was paid family leave money for time I worked (and was paid) because the state didn't understant the acronym "pto". also, please don't turn me in for that, it was only a small amount.

akm, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:30 (eighteen years ago)


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