Are you...faggish? (faggishness - c/d)

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a question for males on ilx, mainly, i guess.

when you are off ilx, and with a group of male friends, do you become more faggish?

do you enjoy a bit of male cornholing and barebacking every now and again, or do you find it depressing?

Is your circle of friends very male? are your topics of converstaion / interests typically male ones?

faggishness!

I don't mean cigarettes (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 02:39 (twenty years ago)

Are you implying that on ILX we're all effete pansies?

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 02:39 (twenty years ago)

I'm Raggish.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

I took an art history course in college. Does that count?

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 02:41 (twenty years ago)

Raggish - the Arabian Ned Raggett!

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 02:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm happily married, but when I'm out with mates I'll suck the odd foreskin and take it up the rear, sure.

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 02:42 (twenty years ago)

The patriotic thing to do, ol' chap!

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)

Your wording here is offensive. It's like asking if you're a bit "nigger-ish"

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 02:44 (twenty years ago)

But... I know a gay guy!

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 02:45 (twenty years ago)

shup fag

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)

What is "faggish"? It seems to have a different definition in every city.. and in each neighborhood within every city -- if the city is big enough.

I've apparently come off as both "faggish" and "straight as a 2 x 4" to both gay friends, straight friends, and those in between.

I shrug now.

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

Most of my friends are gurls

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

bryan--there are days i wish you were more faggish--i totally heart you.

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)

http://www.ice-network.co.uk/aww.jpg

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

Cat looks like a poof to me.

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

all cats are gay

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

I don't think the issue is how "faggish" someone is as much as how accurate and subjective one's "fagdar" is.

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

People who can spot the sexuality of others just by looking C/D

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 02:59 (twenty years ago)

I am totally faggish.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 03:00 (twenty years ago)

all cats are gay

I have to hurt you now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 03:01 (twenty years ago)

I laugh faggily. I'm 25, and a baritone, and I giggle like a little girl.

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 03:02 (twenty years ago)

also, I'm not really a baritone.

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 03:02 (twenty years ago)

Does faggish include myrtle-to-myrtle activity?

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 03:03 (twenty years ago)

Plz to be recording voice and putting online Jeremy =)

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 03:05 (twenty years ago)

i also laugh like a school girl, almost a barritone myself.

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 03:07 (twenty years ago)

i cross my legs the euro/gay/woman way. you can only do that in america if you're famous.

f--gg (gcannon), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 04:42 (twenty years ago)

I have been told that I act "more gay" when I'm in the presence of gay men.

f--gg, I do that too!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 04:53 (twenty years ago)

I wrote this when I was 18:

WHAT MAKES ME TYPICALLY MASCULINE?

* I liked sports a great deal in junior high and played soccer for two years, baseball for one, kept card collections -- still do read the sports pages when possible

* Interest in statistics, trivialities perhaps

* Academic/knowledge-base competitiveness

* S.E.X. ~ importance thereof, its hormonal effect on me -- the amount of time I spend thinking about it, writing about it, the amount of Kleenex I go thru, etc

* Wanting to exert some kind of dominant role with female companions/partners, esp. in public situations (i.e. physically paying for 2 movie tix even though she will later pay me back, as agreed)

* Not really even finding attractive anyone (m or f) who is physically dominating over me (taller, bigger, etc.)

* but very much attracted to girls in general

* Interrupting (in conversation)

WHAT MAKES ME TYPICALLY FEMININE?

* Finding boys cute -- otherwise exploring my sexuality

* Openness about my feelings w/ those close to me; showing emotions, etc. (crying at movies)

* Indulging in GOSSIP

* Interests in the fine arts: literature and theatre & musicals and all that

* How, when I was in elementary school, all the other boys were into GI Joe and Transformers and I just wanted a Rainbow Brite...

* A touching romance over a shoot-em-up action movie anyday (and assuming both are quality pix)

* That I'm even writing about this

* Sometimes, I really like to be passive & feel vulnerable

* Ineptness and general lack of interest in things of a mechanical ilk (tools, cars, etc.)

* Crossing my legs wherever I go

* That for the most part I have smiled as I wrote these, finding most to be positive characteristix I'd like to cultivate...

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 05:01 (twenty years ago)

haha jay this rulz, but

* Crossing my legs wherever I go

does this mean when seated, or like the runway strut or something?

f--gg (gcannon), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 05:03 (twenty years ago)

I think just seated!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 05:06 (twenty years ago)

rainbow brite! you brave beautiful bastard.

at some point in my hs graduation proceedings there was a "senior slide show" where every kid in the class (only 120-some) was guaranteed ONE APPEARANCE (but of course heavily weighted with the oft-photographed Popular), and mine was of a summer production of a cut-down/revved-up Commedia del'Arte where i was in BOOTS, JODHPURS & RUFF CANVAS PIRATEY TYPE SHIRT, with DAGGER. oh i could have just DIED.

f--gg (gcannon), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 05:08 (twenty years ago)

OMG, PICS PLZ

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 05:15 (twenty years ago)

* Crossing my legs wherever I go

I do this too! I'm constantly uncrossing them and hoping nobody notices that they're locked up tight in the upper-thighs!

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 05:17 (twenty years ago)

haha pics are long since lost to the vicissitudes of my life...

still, i learned much later (from my co-actor and best friend's older sister) that my appearance as the swashbuckling jeune premier was my arrival as Someone Sort Of Hot, so it's too bad.

OH MY GOD and this resulted in an AMAZING REVIEW by my hometown newspaper's quasi-closeted and desperately unhappy "arts editor" who waxed a little too lushly about all of us!! i think i was sixteen, and he called me "sleekly maturing," which i never lived down.

(did i use "vicissitudes" right?)

f--gg (gcannon), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 05:24 (twenty years ago)

i can't believe you made a list!

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 06:25 (twenty years ago)

How can you mature "sleekly"? That's great.

I am not terribly faggish, I guess?

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

You know, except for all the hot man-on-man action that I endure.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

im pretty faggy, wonderfully so in fact

latebloomer: Klicken für Details (latebloomer), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

You know, except for all the hot man-on-man action that I endure.

Endure? Don't you like it? (hah)

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

Well, during the times he's not involved, I'd imagine it could get pretty tedious to film it after a while... lighting, premature cumming, drama queens, non-disclosure disease liability contracts etc. But he does what he does to pay the bills.

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

Hi Dere.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

I'm generally taken for a medium-butch, straight nerd. Unless I reprove someone for not being able to tell Rodgers & Hart from Rodgers & Hammerstein.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

Ned Raggett or Nerd Faggot? Yeah?

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

I have quite a few gay friends, almost all of whom are men, and at their parties I am paraded about as their token straight boy. Suffice to say that at said parties my latent flamboyance surfaces rather strongly.

Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Donut, as long as it's caught on film, premature cumming isn't a problem. That's for the boys in the editing room to take care of. It's the jaded queens who don't cum unless you indulge their kink-of-the-week (lately, it seems to be force-feeding them toothpaste, but next week will probably involve Julie Andrews in some unhappy way).

It's a living!

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

ha!

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I seem very faggish, if you don't take the fucking men stuff into account, but I am hardly the one to judge. When out with ILX friends, I am often in the company of Mark C, who is going for a place in the Guinness Book Of Records as 'Faggiest Straight Man', which would rather skew perceptions of the rest of us there.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

I'm not faggish, I'm just impeccably groomed.

Ok, I'm faggish.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

i only like faggish.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I seem very faggish, if you don't take the fucking men stuff into account

This reminds me of a time in college when we were all sitting around the college cafeteria, speculating as to whether Ricky Martin, who was at the height of his popularity then (1999?), was gay. My friend Shawn walked up and said, "What are you guys talking about?" "Ricky Martin," I said. "The whole is-he-gay thing." Shawn stood there for a moment, cocked his head in contemplation, and then said, very earnestly, "Well, does he fuck men?"

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

OMG @ rainbow brite tru confession!

gershy, Saturday, 19 January 2008 07:36 (seventeen years ago)

I have way too many New Year's resolutions at this point.

Eric H., Saturday, 19 January 2008 07:39 (seventeen years ago)

are your topics of converstaion / interests typically male ones?

oh yes. there's sex and skin care and shiny trinkets.

nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 19 January 2008 07:49 (seventeen years ago)

when did maleness become faggish ?

veryloggedout, Saturday, 19 January 2008 08:49 (seventeen years ago)


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