I'm sure some of you have heard of this but...damn if this a piece of cinema arcana that needs discussin' here on ILX!
http://www.subcin.com/clowncried.html
"The infamous "lost" film of Jerry Lewis, which was buried due to alegal dispute between him and the writers of the original screenplay.It tells the story of a self-centered circus clown, Helmut Doork, who is sent to a concentration camp after a drunken impersonation of Hitler. There, he befriends the Jewish children of the camp, and performs for them, angering the camp Commandant. He is accidentally sent with the children on a train to Auschwitz, and there, he is expected to lead the children, like a Pied Piper, to the gas chambers."
Here is the script!
― latebloomer: Klicken für Details (latebloomer), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 09:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer: Klicken für Details (latebloomer), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 09:37 (nineteen years ago) link
"You are rarely in the presence of a perfect object. This was a perfect object. This movie is so drastically wrong, its pathos and its comedy are so wildly misplaced, that you could not, in your fantasy of what it might be like, improve on what it really is. 'Oh my God!' -- that's all you can say."
-- Justyn Dillingham (aubade8...), September 15th, 2003.
― latebloomer: Klicken für Details (latebloomer), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 09:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 09:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer: Klicken für Details (latebloomer), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 09:50 (nineteen years ago) link
HELMUTI don't know!!
REICHER(clenching his teeth)I DON'T KNOW -- SIR!
HELMUTI don't know -- Sir!
REICHERWhy are you not responsible?Why? Why? Why? Why?
On each attack of the word “Why”, Reicher creeps up closer and closer to Helmut, really intimidating him ... and the sound of his voice echos and becomes monotonous and ominous ...
(Cue Track: Pre-Preduction recording for working on the set ... reverberation chamber effects for actual principal photography ... actor will have to LIP SYNC his own pre-recorded word: “Why” in loop form.)"
― latebloomer: Klicken für Details (latebloomer), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 09:56 (nineteen years ago) link
SPY: Can you compare it with anything else Lewis has done? SHEARER: The only thing in Jerry's oeuvre that really is like it is a wonderful thing that he did early in the telethon. It was a dramatic tape of an LA actor who hosted the Popeye show, and Jerry shot it. The guy plays Muscular Dystrophy. It's a staged reading: (scary voice) "I am Muscular Dystrophy, and I hate people, especially children. I love to make their limbs shrivel up!" They showed this for several years before cooler heads prevailed. In it's sense of misplaced dramaturgy it was the closest I ever came to seeing anything that would be a real precursor to the clown movie.
― gershy, Saturday, 19 January 2008 07:48 (sixteen years ago) link
My dream, my DREAM of DREAMS, and my one truest wish* is that this movie will be made available in some way. Even a talking heads docu interspersed with generous clips while film historians wax poetic on its wtfness...I would be so fulfilled.
*Besides the ability to independently raise one eyebrow.
― Abbott, Saturday, 19 January 2008 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Gershy that quote fucking rules.
SHEARER: The closest I can come to describing the effect is if you flew down to Tijuana andsuddenly saw a painting on black velvet of Auschwitz. You'd just think, 'My God, wait a minute!
― dell, Saturday, 19 January 2008 20:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Patton Oswalt used to stage readings of the script with a bunch of comics at Largo in L.A., until he and the club were threatened with legal action from Jerry's people when they presumably read a blurb the L.A. Weekly ran on it.
― Savannah Smiles, Sunday, 20 January 2008 01:38 (sixteen years ago) link
(it was amazing, by the way)
― Savannah Smiles, Sunday, 20 January 2008 01:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Okay, I am righteously pissed I never saw that. Please, someone tell me that was at least taped once.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 20 January 2008 02:12 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.artatlarge.com/pages/ggein/gg_pgs/GG_21.htm
― L. Ron Huppert (velko), Friday, 5 June 2009 05:56 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.artatlarge.com/pages/ggein/gg_img/GG_21.jpg
― L. Ron Huppert (velko), Friday, 5 June 2009 05:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Gidget Gein???
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Saturday, 6 June 2009 03:53 (fifteen years ago) link
oh ha it's a Mar1lyn Man5on person
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Saturday, 6 June 2009 03:57 (fifteen years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1f/Whichwaytothefront.jpg
― Norwegian Wood Smash (stevie), Saturday, 6 June 2009 12:13 (fifteen years ago) link
vtf
― Øystein, Saturday, 6 June 2009 12:25 (fifteen years ago) link
pretty sure I vouldn't
― other instrument (sic), Saturday, 6 June 2009 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link
I saw WWttF once on late-night TV.
― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 6 June 2009 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Yo.
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/08/11/the-day-the-clown-cried-video-jerry-lewis/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJai18eys0M
Bonus Jane Birkin and Serge Gainsbourg at about 2:10.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 August 2013 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
The strange thing is, his children’s entertainment routine in this behind-the-scenes video isn’t bad. The bit with the candle and the cigarette (hey, kids do love cigarettes!) has a comical grace about it.
because jerry lewis was never known for being entertaining and comical.
― fit and working again, Sunday, 11 August 2013 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
Morbs to interview Jerry for Criterion rerelease.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 August 2013 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
the thing is 1) yeah the clown bit at the top is just great - the timing, the angles, everything about it is tremendous, however 2) it's exactly what Harry Shearer said - note the pinkie ring.
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 11 August 2013 23:40 (eleven years ago) link
there's a clip floating around from a fairly recent jerry lewis appearance where someone asked him about the movie and whether it would ever be released, and instead of flipping out he gave this really honest and direct response, along the lines of "no, it won't, because it could have been a good movie but i didn't know what i was doing so i just fucked it up." it was actually really moving.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 11 August 2013 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
yeah - I've been I can't say obsessed by but ~thinkin' about~ this movie ever since I first heard of it, decades ago now - it was before the Spy article, that was kind of a watershed: so much information in there about what was basically a "so do you know there's this Holocaust movie Jerry Lewis apparently made" deal beforehand. Jerry's answer was great; previously, if anybody asks him about it at all, he completely humiliates them, every time, reliably. And he usually sounded bitter and angry and defensive, all the usual many layers of defense mechanism you usually hear when he's talking about something where he's holding back. But this time, for whatever reason, he was at ease, and funny, and introspective, and honest - for the first time anywhere, as far as I know. It's a remarkable bit of public self-searching on a question that'd previously seemed a huge sore spot; when he mugs after "you wanna know why?" it's kind of a huge relief. He's ok with this big failure now. This answer has really made me hope the film itself never surfaces in any form. The story as it stands is better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEMSgRytNZ0
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 12 August 2013 00:00 (eleven years ago) link
SHOOTING over Helmut's shoulder down at the children as they file past him. Each one hesitates a beat before him and looks up at him.
Their faces are wondering, but trusting. They smile tentatively. Only the little girl with the doll hangs back, waiting for something rather than fearful of entering. When all of the other children have gone in, she goes up to Helmut and wordlessly holds out her hand in a silent request to enter with him. In her eyes is the absolute certainty that he will.
CLOSE SHOT - HELMUT - LITTLE GIRL'S POV
He looks down at her hand for a long beat.
MED. SHOT - HELMUT, LITTLE GIRL
The little girl waits for Helmut, but he doesn't take her hand. Shyly, she begins to withdraw it. Suddenly, Helmut reaches out and grabs her hand, clutching it desperately as he needs her innocence to control the panic that is tearing at him. Holding on to her to steady himself, they walk together into the room, the CAMERA PANNING with them.
CUT TO:
INT. CHAMBER - DAY
ANGLE to the door as Helmut and little girl enter. Suddenly, the door slams shut behind them. Helmut whirls to it instinctively, as if to shove it open or cry out for help, but he does neither.
CLOSE SHOT - HELMUT
His face is pressed against the steel door. He fights the panic within him. Then, he quickly wipes his eyes and turns back towards the children. Slowly he takes three chunks of stale bread from his coat pocket and begins juggling them, at the same time waggling his head from side to side, slowly at first, then more gaily. From deep inside him comes a tiny, tiny laugh. The CAMERA PULLS BACK SLOWLY to reveal the children in the f.g. Suddenly, Helmut tosses the pieces of bread high, high into the air and stretches out his arms to encompass all the children. As they gather around him, they take up his soft laugh, timidly at first, then more assuredly until the chamber resounds with gentle laughter.
― Mordy , Monday, 12 August 2013 00:25 (eleven years ago) link
IT WAS NEVER RELEASED
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 August 2013 02:53 (eleven years ago) link
also if you wanna see a JL WWII film where he wears a pinkie ring and a peace symbol, there's the above-cited Which Way to the Front?.
I will stick w/ the good stuff. It seems to me this is salivated over mostly by Jerry haters.
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 August 2013 02:57 (eleven years ago) link
it's not really haters - it's that this is a fascinating story. there are plenty of failed efforts but the combo of lewis's self-importance (some of which isn't without merit, some of which is just arrogance) and the insanity of the idea and where this is at in history and the backstory of where he's at and why he's doing it etc etc: it's just a good story, and that you can't actually see the film makes it pretty irresistible
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 12 August 2013 03:26 (eleven years ago) link
That screen grab alone for the YouTube Ned just posted looks like the black velvet painting Shearer compares the film to.
― pplains, Monday, 12 August 2013 04:03 (eleven years ago) link
http://youtu.be/4JGUKtc9Bjc
― no one should be offended by the lyrics in this song (stevie), Monday, 12 August 2013 10:39 (eleven years ago) link
well, except that the clowning Lewis is doing in that segment is A+++, just perfect. It's pretty decontextualized so you have to know "in this film, this guy will shortly be in a concentration camp" for it to be anything but a good clown act.
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 12 August 2013 11:37 (eleven years ago) link
Kind of weird that Harry Shearer also is one of the "only" people to have seen the Bohemian Grove rituals and also does a "it's no big deal" rap about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtNCAdkQlcY
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Monday, 12 August 2013 13:40 (eleven years ago) link
seen and talked openly about it, that is
ppl born after 1970 are only used to dealing w/ ironic clowns, right? Homey, Krusty, etc.
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 August 2013 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
(apologies for dumbed-down use of 'ironic')
What's A Bigger Cliche: "I Hate Mimes!" Or "I'm Scared Of Clowns!"
― scott seward, Monday, 12 August 2013 13:58 (eleven years ago) link
i started that thread 9 years ago! jesus christmas where does the time go...
― scott seward, Monday, 12 August 2013 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
Among the 6 or 7 roles Jerry plays in The Family Jewels is a creepy, misanthropic clown.
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 August 2013 14:20 (eleven years ago) link
So the newly surfaced footage......isn't it the only footage that has ever been seen of this?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 12 August 2013 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
pretty close. there was a documentary that had a tiny tiny bit of footage but it was all behind-the-scenes - this is the first moving-image stuff to surface from the actual film footage afaik
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
Well THIS is good stuff.
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/08/19/jerry-lewis-day-clown-died/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 August 2013 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
Yes.
None of the answers are a great surprise, in fact someone could have written that as a script!
(forgive me, I watched Frost/Nixon last night)
― Mark G, Monday, 19 August 2013 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
I have to think this is like Smile and one day it will just exist out there in the world, weirdly
― akm, Monday, 19 August 2013 23:46 (eleven years ago) link
i dunno if JL could release it even if he wanted to -- IIRC he doesn't own the rights to the novel it's based on anymore.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 19 August 2013 23:59 (eleven years ago) link
He'd better burn what he's got
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 00:31 (eleven years ago) link
(those answers to EW, of course, contradict what Lewis said this year, that it's embarrassingly bad)
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 00:38 (eleven years ago) link
Jerry Lewis IS Walt Whitman in Heaves of Grass
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 00:45 (eleven years ago) link
More!
http://gawker.com/heres-a-peek-at-the-holocaust-clown-film-jerry-lewis-i-1103950199/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 23:32 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v96fv67ak0o
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 23:39 (ten years ago) link
Patton Oswalt has a story
http://www.vulture.com/2014/12/patton-oswalt-the-day-the-clown-didnt-cry-jerry-lewis.html
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 17:23 (ten years ago) link
Omg. Restored my faith in something.
walked out to the empty lawn in the back of the theater and was confronted by the single douchiest-looking adult male I’d ever seen. All of the worst aspects of (1) a jock, (2) a shrill NPR listener, (3) a wannabe alpha-male, and (4) a movie producer, which, it turned out, he was. Or at least he said he was.
― Murdstone From The Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 17:37 (ten years ago) link
But if we hope for that which we see not, then do we with patience wait for it. (Romans 8:25)
Stone also let the group in on secrets, like the Jerry Lewis collection he had just acquired on behalf of the library.Did he really have the film negative of "The Day the Clown Cried," an unreleased Holocaust comedy that Lewis regretted making? Yes, Stone said, but the library agreed to not show the film for at least 10 years.
Did he really have the film negative of "The Day the Clown Cried," an unreleased Holocaust comedy that Lewis regretted making? Yes, Stone said, but the library agreed to not show the film for at least 10 years.
― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 6 August 2015 11:32 (nine years ago) link
.. which is exactly how old this thread is already.
― Mark G, Thursday, 6 August 2015 11:43 (nine years ago) link
every time this makes the news, i get depressed. mentioned in paragraph 21 of a story about film preservation, and yet that's all anyone pulls out of it.
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 August 2015 14:38 (nine years ago) link
the library of congress did NOT get the clown. as jerry explains at around 40 minutes into this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGmyHivWyN8
― scott seward, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 02:01 (eight years ago) link
not a fan of colbert or syrian refugees. loves tina fey though! likes trump too.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 02:08 (eight years ago) link
Here's something: some new photos from the set.
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-35220719
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 22:47 (eight years ago) link
.. And a 30 minute documentary also.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 23:40 (eight years ago) link
bearded jerry!
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 00:00 (eight years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03dj9kr
― Less surprised by the total lack of surprises (stevie), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 07:47 (eight years ago) link
Don't tell me you've never seen...
https://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxtu3qNf141qhpc9fo1_1280.jpg
― Anyway, it's not a three, it's a yogh. (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 January 2016 00:29 (eight years ago) link
haha no what is that
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 January 2016 00:30 (eight years ago) link
http://iv1.lisimg.com/image/1090337/580full-which-way-to-the-front%3F-poster.jpg
― Anyway, it's not a three, it's a yogh. (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 January 2016 06:54 (eight years ago) link
31 minutes of it on Vimeo.
https://vimeo.com/160821734/c055c9bee4
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 17 June 2016 14:01 (eight years ago) link
there is no way this thing is as terrible as people say it is.
― akm, Friday, 17 June 2016 14:06 (eight years ago) link
Just watched this. It's compelling. Hopefully JL will get wind that people aren't laughing at it and release the full thing. The most curious thing here are a bunch of recreations of scenes by old men that look to have been filmed far more recently than the film on a blank black stage. No idea what to make of that.
― The Thnig, Friday, 17 June 2016 16:28 (eight years ago) link
Lewis called it "bad bad bad" within the last year... I saw him speak extensively two months ago in a Q&A, and he's just as secure in his opinions about quality as he ever has been. I doubt it'll be officially distributed in his lifetime.
― helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 June 2016 16:54 (eight years ago) link
Why couldn't he have maintained this level of clear-headed quality control wrt Hardly Working
― Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 June 2016 17:30 (eight years ago) link
Yeah I missed the news that we have to wait 10 more years to see it. On the upside, a reason to live.
― The Thnig, Friday, 17 June 2016 18:11 (eight years ago) link
I don't remember Hardly Working being terrible, and Smorgasbord/Cracking Up is better than that.
― helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 June 2016 18:26 (eight years ago) link
no movie can possibly be as bad as people say "the day the clown cried" is.
― hypnic jerk (rushomancy), Friday, 17 June 2016 19:05 (eight years ago) link
i'm confident that jerry is right about this one. given the premise and the treatment i don't really see how anyone actually wants to view it.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 17 June 2016 19:17 (eight years ago) link
it's probably a deeply flawed and misguided film, but worst film ever? no, i've certainly seen worse films, films so bad that my mind has blocked out any specific details about them.
― hypnic jerk (rushomancy), Friday, 17 June 2016 20:01 (eight years ago) link
the thing is you have to solve for different ideas of terrible. this is terrible like Billy Crystal doing blackface at the Oscars. Except that in Lewis's case, he thinks he's saving lives by shooting scenes in a "death camp" where everybody's well-fed and maybe their faces are a little dirty but it's a huge deal when a guard shoots even one of them. It's just like one huge misstep. Jerry's a good filmmaker, so this was never going to be a Plan 9 From Outer Space. It's bad because it's wrong-headed in its every impulse.
The edit above on Vimeo is remarkable, much more actual footage than we'd ever, ever seen. Genuinely didn't think I'd ever see this day!
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 17 June 2016 20:11 (eight years ago) link
so far all the footage i've seen from this makes it looks interesting, nuanced, artistic, thoughtful, contemplative, etc. not exactly the tonedeaf disaster that paraphrased headlines make it out to be.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 17 June 2016 20:16 (eight years ago) link
You saw that 10 questions thing where Jerry acknowledged that it was neither the the worst film ever, or an unfinished masterpiece?
― Mark G, Friday, 17 June 2016 20:25 (eight years ago) link
well, any talk of the film is implicitly counter to auteur theory, as the auteur in question doesn't intend to release it in his lifetime.
― hypnic jerk (rushomancy), Friday, 17 June 2016 20:37 (eight years ago) link
that is not the auteur theory
― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 17 June 2016 20:48 (eight years ago) link
The old guys doing the scenes are, i think, cast members of the film 40+ years later?
You can see Old Jerry on-camera in the German documentary footage here:
https://vimeo.com/160821734/154551473
― helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 18 June 2016 01:29 (eight years ago) link
Clown Trutherism begins here
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 18 June 2016 02:08 (eight years ago) link
My curator friend had a chance to see this at the LoC, but opted for some rare silent film instead. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 September 2017 14:03 (seven years ago) link
Three years to go now until The Day The Clown Cried can finally be seen (June 2024), but only if you're in Northern Virginia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbZIyXNRxos
― Portsmouth Bubblejet, Saturday, 5 June 2021 20:07 (three years ago) link
!
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/jerry-lewis-holocaust-clown-cried-venice-documentary-film-1235955289/
From Darkness to Light, a documentary from directors Michael Lurie and Eric Friedler about Lewis’ project, features never-before-seen footage of the legendary lost film and will screen in Venice’s Classics section devoted to documentaries about cinema.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 July 2024 04:48 (four months ago) link
C'mon I can't be the only one still interested.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 July 2024 14:14 (four months ago) link
I bet this film is nowhere near as offensive as Life is Beautiful.
― psychobilly elegy (Matt #2), Wednesday, 24 July 2024 14:29 (four months ago) link
I will watch this!
― Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 24 July 2024 14:32 (four months ago) link
― Thrapple from the Apple (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 July 2024 14:38 (four months ago) link
Since the film was never actually finished, a documentary using existing footage is probably the best venue to experience this.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 July 2024 14:45 (four months ago) link
From Darkness to Light, a doc about it, is on TCM from now through 12/23. I really, really wanna see it, but don't have TCM.
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 19 December 2024 21:16 (three days ago) link
i watched it, good doc v thorough.. goes into the production problems & does have a lot of footage from what was shot
― johnny crunch, Friday, 20 December 2024 00:44 (two days ago) link
I don't have it either, ah well.
― Mark G, Friday, 20 December 2024 00:50 (two days ago) link
There's a TCM hub included with my Max subscription but it's just movies; I did a search for the documentary and it didn't come up.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 20 December 2024 01:05 (two days ago) link
Watch TCM has it through 12/23; must remember to catch this.
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Friday, 20 December 2024 01:42 (two days ago) link