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This movie looks DAMN SILLY

Seriously if I was making a joke I don't think I could have set it up better, this shit is absurd. Woody Harrelson! Downey Jr.! Ryder! Reeves! ROTOSCOPING KINDA!!

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

oh man i am bummed now.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

Harrelson looks exactly how I pictured that character in the book, the front lawn, too. Left brain/right brain shit could be interesting, if done scientifically.

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

There is another thread on this.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

The trailer looks good to me though (except Winona, ACK!)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

There is another thread on this.

suspected as much.
did find for "darkly" on all updated threads and no results.
couldn't be bothered.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

okay actually visually it looks cool but goddammit keanu! somebody pls kill his agent or something.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

Keanu is really pretty good at playing drug addled people though.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

he's cipher, which is just fine for internal action-heavy sci-fi.

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

xpost - no he isn't.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

Oh please, he's fine in River's Edge and the Bill & Ted flicks.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

and why has My Own Private Idaho been erased from the collective consciousness?

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

are bill & ted supposed to be drug addled?

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

(x-post)Because it sucked.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

xpost - he's great in those, not so good in anything else. argunaut we were talking about that movie last week!

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

yeah, but then it was in the context of River Phoenix being erased from the collective consciousness. Replaced by DiCaprio I wager.

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

Eh more likely Johnny Depp.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

xpost - he was so much better than l'il leo too. RIP ONE VIPER ROOM.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

My visceral reaction to Keanu is the same as hstencil's - but I'm holding out hope for this one based on Linklater's love and respect for the source material, which seems very genuine to me. And I think visually it looks great - apart from Keanu, the casting is perfect. Downey Jr and Harrelson as drug-addled paranoid freaks = no acting required!

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

IS THE ENTIRE FUCKING MOVIE LIKE THIS

BECAUSE THAT ANIMATION THING MAKES ME WANT TO RIP MY OWN EYEBALLS OUT

THANK YOU

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

DOWNEY SHOULD"VE BEEN THE LEAD BEST ACTOR OF OUR TIME.

i like the animation.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

yeah me too. and appropriate for the material/themes as well (constantly shifting identities, mutability of reality, etc.)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

Uh oh

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

...I'll stick with the book, thanks.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

i'd bet most of us on this thread have read the book, Ned.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

oh come on, give Linklater some credit. Clearly he's put in some serious time from PKD, witness his closing monologue in "Waking Life".

x-post

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

i absolutely despise it, it makes me nauseated for some reason, it was the main reason i couldn't even pretend to watch Waking Life

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

from = with
duh

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

also hstencil otm about Downey

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

PHILIP K DICK BACK FAT!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

b-b-b-but - Allyzay do you hate the style for some kind of aesthetic reason? Or does it just hurt your eyes to look at it, like thos Magic Eye things?

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

i wonder how much downey's drop in employability is related to insurance issues

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

A TON. at least that's what he said when i listened to him on leonard lopate a couple months ago, blount.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

shakey, I'm not really sure. they're both kind of the same thing though--if it bothers my eyes and mental state than I'm not going to appreciate it aesthetically and will find a reason why it is aesthetically invalid.

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

To be honest I never saw Waking Life so I don't know how I'd hold up to a feature-length sit-through with that kind of animation. I'm a total sucker for cartoons about the future though.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

i liked waking life okay.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

2005 - this, Steamboy, Howl's Moving Castle, Robots, already looking like a good year for cartoon movies!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

Woody Harrelson & Robert Downey Jr.! That seriously is a bad-ass piece of good job casting right there.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

i think maybe the issue here is that i hate Linklater cos I can't think of a movie of his that i enjoyed.

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

not even "Dazed and Confused"????!!? how could you not enjoy that?

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

he's hit and miss but yeah, come on there's something in his catalog for everyone, I think... (me I rate Dazed and Confused very highly, Waking Life is pretty good but kinda thin, and Slacker def. has its moments)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

haha i'm actually more "concerned" about his bad news bears remake

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

i'm crazy about alot of linklater

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

If you had a cow, and you only ever let it eat Skittles, nothing else, I imagine that Robots movie is a pretty good approximation of what would come out of that cow's violently spasming asshole. Right before it died.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

I have an idea how the casting could have been improved:

BRING ME THE BACK FAT OF DAVID THEWLIS!

― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

Wait, you didn't like School of Rock, Ally?!?!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

see slacker thread

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

Who the fuck is it that is responsible for continually casting ROBIN WILLIAMS in films about ROBOTS?

Anyway sorry, back on topic.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

YOU SHOULD QUIT.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

haha i'm actually more "concerned" about his bad news bears remake

I'm more concerned about The Smoker starring NATALIE BORING PORTMAN.

haha TOBMOT that's exactly my one qualm with that film

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

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This was the first time Robert Downey, Jr. annoyed the shit out of me.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 5 April 2007 23:47 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, the FIRST? Good god, man, your tolerance level is frightening.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 April 2007 23:48 (eighteen years ago)

rdj's the man!!

― s1ocki, Friday, 6 April 2007 01:05 (eighteen years ago)

I liked it. Way more faithful to the book than I expected.

― Jordan, Friday, 6 April 2007 01:28 (eighteen years ago)

Have I even posted in this thread? I don't know.

I love this movie and thought everyone involved in it did outstanding work.

― nickalicious, Friday, 6 April 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

Oh hey, I did post on this thread before, what do you know.

― nickalicious, Friday, 6 April 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

this movie is great, the acting in it is really fun, and it captures the book perfectly

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 6 April 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

I was also happy to learn that its nominal failure at the box office has driven down the value of PKDs work in Hollywood - hopefully making more shitty action films based on his work less likely (I'm gonna pretend "Next" does not exist)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 6 April 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

this movie is fucking beautiful, and i am watching it again tonight

― Just got offed, Saturday, 23 June 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

i still haven't seen this damn movie and i really want to.

also, someone needs to do a robert downey jr. poll. not me, i'm getting on a plane in three hours.

― Roz, Saturday, 23 June 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

why is this movie so hated

― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:48 (sixteen years ago)

Because the book is so good.

― Trip Maker, Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:50 (sixteen years ago)

also it keeps fucking people's moms

― Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:51 (sixteen years ago)

ok, bear with me a moment here, what if you haven't read the book, but the movie is one of your 20 favourite films ever

what does that make you, apart from suggest banned

― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:51 (sixteen years ago)

Young?

― Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:52 (sixteen years ago)

I think i still have the promo large rubber band/bracelet thing from opening night; all black with DOOM in bold white letters.

I do still have one of the half-size posters up in my bathroom, too.

― kingfish, Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:53 (sixteen years ago)

i liked it and some of it was hell of funny.

not quite sure why he rotoscoped it though tbh.

― history mayne, Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:53 (sixteen years ago)

in a sort of semi-fantastical, shifty half-world way the rotoscoping made sense, and i probably wouldn't have thought a great deal of the movie had it not been implemented; the rotoscoping made the goddamn thing a work of art

― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:55 (sixteen years ago)

winona ryder is a profoundly attractive woman and shdn't be rotoscoped, i think.

― history mayne, Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:57 (sixteen years ago)

but, like, that is the closest a visual style has come to representing dreams, that i can think of; i mean form here, not content, although the content (drugs, dystopia, fracturing relationships, people going incognito amidst other people) suits that form very well

and come on the death of freck/fleck is like one of the classic scenes ever in all movies

you can still perceive beauty and ugly in this film, in a confusing sort of a way

― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Thursday, 3 December 2009 21:00 (sixteen years ago)

(freck)

― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Thursday, 3 December 2009 21:01 (sixteen years ago)

winona ryder is a profoundly attractive woman and shdn't be rotoscoped, i think.

but if they hadn't rotoscoped her we never would have seen her Winaynays

― strange asses outside liquor stores (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 December 2009 21:13 (sixteen years ago)

this was a gd attempt - the scene w/ the bicycle best captures the hilarious stoner stupidity of the druggos, their endless inane chitchat (i miss the convo from the bk abt carving a man out of a gigantic block of hash and walking him through customs) - tho' it is nowhere near as terrifying as the nov, and it doesn't have anywhere near the same empathy for/involvement with the characters precisely because of the rotoscoping (which yes, does capture the dreamy surreal side of dickworld, but slightly at the expense of visionary paranoid dickworld, my fave kind of dick ahem)

linklater's new film abt orson welles looks like total shit

― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:00 (sixteen years ago)

I went into it thinking it'd be really, really top-notch and ended up hating it. All by myself!

― Udon Nomi (Stevie D), Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:03 (sixteen years ago)

I love the book and the movie and they are different things. Winona is too old for the role if we're holding it up to the novel, but she brings her own angle that is useful. The "suit" is amazingly psychedelic and most of all the emotional tone seems right to me- it has the despair and sourness that dick wallows in. The actors seem more "themselves" than ever because of the rotoscoping, if you know what I mean- they don't lose particularity but seem even more recognizably Harrellson, Downey, Reeves-ish. The failed suicide scene is the funniest moment in the movie.

― twice boiled cabbage is death, Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:09 (sixteen years ago)

best PKD film since Bladerunner.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, July 10, 2006 2:11 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark

me = OTM

― strange asses outside liquor stores (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:15 (sixteen years ago)

This thread, btw, upon reading it in its entirety, is one long Shakey Mo Collier OTM. Dude, I salute.

― Scourage (Haberdager), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 01:47 (3 years ago) Bookmark

lol didn't this end in the famous *cocksuck* moment

― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:22 (sixteen years ago)

no, that was a mcdonalds thread

anyway yeah. i dig this movie. whatever.

― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:24 (sixteen years ago)

lol didn't this end in the famous *cocksuck* moment

haha waht

― Owa Tana Siam (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:24 (sixteen years ago)

McDonalds: Edible or Not

WmC's rejoinder OTM

― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:26 (sixteen years ago)

btw pizza hut is 50000000x worse than mcd's, is something experience has taught me

― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:28 (sixteen years ago)

but, like, that is the closest a visual style has come to representing dreams

dunno 'bout you but my dreams don't look rotoscoped.

― poster x (ledge), Friday, 4 December 2009 11:17 (sixteen years ago)

nine months pass...

saw this last night

-was apprehensive cuz I really really hated waking life - in fact most of the criticisms ppl in this thread are leveling against this movie I leveled against waking life
-am a big pkd fan
-really liked the shots of keanu in his suit - they add a sort of mistiness and reflective glow to his eyes that gets across the fact that he's breaking apart. even if keanu can't convey it.
-really liked the scenes with the docs psychoanalyzing keanu. it's a totally dickensian plot device to have someone 'in the know' passively analyze exactly and how you will break down without offering any help at all, leaving you to drown slowly.
-woody harrelson almost ruined it with his hamming. rdj otoh was pitch perfect, pulled off the "is he sober or just really really wasted" act off really well.
-really liked the rotoscoping effect - everything in their world seemed so bland and same-y. the shade of green they used for the grass was so awesomely puke-y and gross. the tired southern california sun orange was also a nice touch.
-didn't like the 'my roommates are turning into bugs' bit, felt too literal

― subtle like the g in 'goole' (dayo), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 00:57 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

watched this again last night, after finally reading the novel. I still like it. The acting is great in it, or at least people are well cast for the roles they occupy. In the vicarage we disagreed with Dayo above as we wuvved Woody Harrelson's "dude!" persona.

The bonus feature interviews are funny, in that Winona Ryder comes across as the biggest spacer in the cast. Who would have thought it?

― The New Dirty Vicar, Monday, 7 November 2011 13:30 (fourteen years ago)

But one thing - is Rory Cochrane well known? He is great in the film, but I don't know him from anything else. Also, is he as well known as the other actors for rumoured or documented instances of serious drog abuse?

― The New Dirty Vicar, Monday, 7 November 2011 13:32 (fourteen years ago)

he is well known if you've seen dazed and confused

― just sayin, Monday, 7 November 2011 13:58 (fourteen years ago)

Oh wait, I have. Dude!

― The New Dirty Vicar, Monday, 7 November 2011 16:50 (fourteen years ago)

"or what if they come in through the bathroom window like in the infamous Beatles song"

― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

Woody is great in this movie

― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

At this point, I pick up any non-trade PKD I find in all the used bookstores I hit on the road

― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Monday, 7 November 2011 18:05 (fourteen years ago)

I think that is a good strategy.

Has anyone read any of his non-SF books?

― The New Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 12:12 (fourteen years ago)

yes, sadly

― turkey in the straw (x2) (remy bean), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 12:17 (fourteen years ago)

i bought In Milton Lumkey Territory thinking it was sf. but it was pleasant enough, reminded me of anne tyler.

― koogs, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 12:17 (fourteen years ago)

When I read Flow My Tears I started imagining what the non SF books might be like, and thinking I would like to read one.

― The New Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 12:52 (fourteen years ago)

There is a great bonus feature on the ASD DVD where Dick is talking to a French SF convention about how the Government had installed bugs in his house around the time he was living the life that became the book. He had that great delusional thing of saying outlandish things in a very reasonable and convincing manner. God bless.

― The New Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 12:53 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.rhythmism.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=28458&stc=1

― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 13:04 (fourteen years ago)

blocked at work... category "nudity".

― The New Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 13:12 (fourteen years ago)

it was a non-nudey page from r. crumb's pkd strip

― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 13:26 (fourteen years ago)

Has anyone read any of his non-SF books?

I've actually read maybe 4 or 5 of them. They're enjoyable enough, but nothing essential, with the exception of Confessions of a Crap Artist, which is great.

― peter in montreal, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 14:12 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

want

http://www.hipsoul.com/bmz_cache/5/581694a2a54bdf2de4465d6f65b35973.image.224x215.gif

― Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 18:06 (twelve years ago)

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