― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)
― emil.y (emil.y), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)
― emil.y (emil.y), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)
Esus2 (pinky stretches to the F# on the D string)
Bm7 (2nd fret low to high: X B D A C# F#)
Bmaug5sus4 (2nd fret low to high: X B F# G(open) D E)
C#m7/Amaj7sus2 (2nd fret low to high: X C# E G# B(open) E(open))
― 57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)
Back in Black, dudes.
― Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)
― 57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)
I do like though: D + F#min + Bmin + G and also A#min + Gmin + F#
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)
fuck Metallica, fuckin' BLACK SABBATH started that tritone shit with the first song on their first album
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)
― 57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)
Speaking of which, I can't believe no one's mentioned the #9 chord yet.
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)
― 57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)
― jbr (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)
Lately I've been "making up" chords only in the sense of taking a "normal" fingering that has open strings in it, and moving it around to see where it sounds interesting. That is, the three or four fingered notes stay the same in relation to one another, but the chord changes character because of the what the open strings are doing.
I'm at work and thus have no guitar handy, but dig, if you will, the following examples:
Take your standard folky first-position G voicing: 320033. That shape with the root up at the 8th fret is a Cadd9 (870088), but the voicing sounds all spacey-like.
Yer open A minor shape, 002210, works nicely as 004420 or 006640. Also, take an open Dm (X00231) and play it with the root at 7 (some kind of F#m) or 5 (some kind of Em).
What do you get? Jazzy-sounding chords for the lazy guitarist who can't be bothered to study jazz, that's what you get.
― The Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)
Indie rock!
Try playing with this shape: You can make a super-dissonant 6-string cluster with 404060 but you can also get some interesting things if you shift it upwards (say at 6th or 8th position).
You can do some prettier things by suspending various simple shapes over D (kind of what you're doing with the Dmin shape). e.g. inverted Am/D XX0555 or C/D XX0553 or Em/D XX0987.
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)
2-3-5-93-5-7-92-4-6-100-0-0-00-0-0-00-0-0-0
I hope that doesn't look like total ass when I click submit!
x-post those last ones Sundar posted, with a super twangy super clean single-coil electric plucked all pluckity style, make for some excellent Talking Heads/Gang of Four-esque "white people funk"!
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)
― Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)
E A E G# B G# (0 0 2 1 0 4)
E A E G# B F# (0 0 2 1 0 2)
E A E G# B E (0 0 2 1 0 0)
I asked some theory-people what they were. The second one got called something insane like G#m7#5b9, and I gave up. I call them things like "weird A number one," even though technically they're probably something like Eadd4 or Amaj9 or E/A.
X X 5 4 5 0 (G B E E)X X 7 6 7 0 (A C# F# E)
The first is some kind of rootless Cmaj7. I don't know what to call it but I like it. The second is some kind of A6 or something.
Oh, and I agree that if B major shouldn't give you much trouble if you're doing everything else right. If playing 224442 hurts, try it as 799877.
― The Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)
I forgot about this one!! damn I love this chord!! and pedal tones!!!!
why haven't I played guitar in like five years?? :(((((
― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)
― The Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)
This is an inverted Em. The second is A6, yeah. I like to combine the 6th and 7th, e.g. X06670
2xpost (to Mad Puffin)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)
Maybe there should be a POV on chord progressions.
Personally I'm partial to sappy old I vi IV V.
― The Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)
Am C G D E7 (bonus chord: F)
E7, if I'm right, is E (022100) w/ the 2nd 2 removed (020100).
I thought G was 320003, and 320033 was some modified G chord?
Also, lord bless the CAPO so I can abuse my favorite chords but sound different while doing it.
Oh yeah! And using different chord "voicings" to "cheat" rulz, like sliding up the fret w/ the F chord form to play a B, or sliding up w/ D to play G. Wheeeee! (I'm always afraid I don't know enough to play guitar, but I think I know more than I'm letting on. Don't ask me about music theory, tho.)
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)
320033 is still a garden-variety G major, it just sounds thicker because you've got the extra fifth in there. Nothing wrong with playing it as 320003.
I usually play E7 as 022130, but again, nothing wrong with playing it as 020100.
Nice thing about the guitar is that the notes repeat all over the place. If a note is needed, you should be able to find it somewhere.
― The Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)
oh yeah, I think the chord I thought was Cadd9 is something completely different...it's more a variation on Cmajor7
― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)
― 57 7th (calstars), Thursday, 3 March 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 3 March 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)
E A E G# B G# (0 0 2 1 0 4): Esus4
E A E G# B F# (0 0 2 1 0 2): Esus2sus4/Amaj7sus2 with a 6th (how would this be written?)
E A E G# B E (0 0 2 1 0 0): Esus2/Amaj7sus2
X X 5 4 5 0 (G B E E): Em/G6
X X 7 6 7 0 (A C# F# E): F#m/A6
― 57 7th (calstars), Thursday, 3 March 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 3 March 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)
During that part I'm just having the bass alternate between E and A, but I'm starting to think that song has an E tonality overall.
Which disappoints me, because writing in E is such a guitar cliche. The keyboard player begs us to write in something other than E; accordingly I have been doing a lot in Am.
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Thursday, 3 March 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 3 March 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)
My last album was largely built around this shape: 0 0 0 2 2 x (E A D A C#).
This other band that I play keyboard for: Almost all the songs are in D. Which is a pretty good key for keyboards, I suppose. A lot of my songs are in C# which makes it easy on the accordionist.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 3 March 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)
A guy I play with is obsessed with the following little vamp:
Dm7 Bbmaj7 - Am7#5
/ / / / / / / /
Which I play (pick and fingers) like this
x575656x776x5xx66xIt's sort of bossa-nova sounding, nice to play over.
― Ash (ashbyman), Friday, 4 March 2005 04:04 (twenty years ago)
honestly I'd call the first three chords Esus4/A, Esus2/A, E/A. That's the harmonic sense of the progression, at least to my ear. The other two, to me, sound like Cmaj7, Dmaj9. The bass note is the least harmonically important most of the time. A chord is derfined by the 3rd and the 7th (guidetones they are sometimes called) so even though you aren't playing a C or D those voicings sound like Cmaj7 and Dmaj9 to me. I'm a big proponent of common sense when it comes to naming chords. Even though the notes you are playing spell an e minor triad, Does xx5450 sound minor to you?
God I miss teaching guitar.
― Ash (ashbyman), Friday, 4 March 2005 04:27 (twenty years ago)
Of course, I didn't get there by thinking of a particular sound I wanted and figuring out the guide tones--I got there by taking an Amaj7 and sliding it up three frets and saying, "Hmmm. That sounds nice."
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Friday, 4 March 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 4 March 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)
― Some Dadaismus Implied (Dada), Friday, 4 March 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)
― Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Friday, 4 March 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)
― Some Dadaismus Implied (Dada), Friday, 4 March 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)
x 2 1 2 0 2
― Huey (Huey), Friday, 4 March 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)
JIMI HENDRIX CHORD is all you need.
E7#9 y'all
― ken c (ken c), Friday, 4 March 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)
Fmaj7Gsus4B7Am
talking about chords on their own is silly though, really it's about the progression.
― ken c (ken c), Friday, 4 March 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)
― Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Friday, 4 March 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)
I'm not sure - B7 is remarkably different from, say C7 for two reasons: firstly the pitch (although I guess it helps it you have perfect pitch), and also (for guitars) the tone of the strings when playing different combinations of notes.
― Huey (Huey), Friday, 4 March 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)
― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Friday, 4 March 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Friday, 4 March 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)
― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Friday, 4 March 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)
But that's true of a lot of the musician-magazine subculture. Mostly I'm a drummer, and I get sick to my stomach talking to other drummers or reading drumming magazines. The lionization of chops for chops' sake--wow omg he can play in like nineteen different time signatures all at one time and to sixty-fourth notes with his eyebrows! Therefore he must be a DRUM GOD. Blah blah blah Peart, blah blah blah Portnoy. Yawnsville.
It's not just that I don't dig the prog and the prog-metal; it's that I object to some musicians' letting considerations of technique infect their aesthetic. One might say it's rockist.
But I don't see that on this thread--more like people talking about their particular phenomenology of living with the guitar and their attitude towards playing it. What fun it is to do this or that. No judgmental "d00d, you're not a GUITAR GOD unless you can do this or that modal thingydoodle."
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Friday, 4 March 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)
― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Friday, 4 March 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)
10 10 1213 13 1512 12 14X X X0 0 XX X 0
― 57 7th (calstars), Friday, 4 March 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)
http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/tab.html
― 57 7th (calstars), Friday, 4 March 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)
I *love* this. Self loathing guitarists unite. I wonder if my career (I'm a filthy dirty lawyer) or my guitar playing should fill me with more self loathing...
I can play fast and arcane music, I tend to choose not to. I think the obsession with technique fades with age and time for most people. If it wasn't for angst-ridden 16 year olds I don't think Steve Vai or (shudder) Yngwie and the rest of the uber-shredders would ever sell records. But maybe that's just me.
I just learned Kid Charlegmane for a gig, the end of the lead break in that song is absolutely perfect.
― Ash (ashbyman), Friday, 4 March 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)
I have no idea what you hate about guitarists, but the topic coming up suggested to me what I (me, personally) hate about talking to other drummers. If it's not the same, feel free to say what you objection is.
Or don't. Up to you.
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Friday, 4 March 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)
― Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Friday, 4 March 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 March 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)
― earlnash, Friday, 4 March 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 4 March 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)
it is way xpost now but so why is it? because they picked 5 chords???!??!?!?!
― ken c (ken c), Friday, 4 March 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 4 March 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 4 March 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)
http://www.internetgreetings.com/paul-clear-guitar.jpg
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Friday, 4 March 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 4 March 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)
― Ash (ashbyman), Friday, 4 March 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)
can someone tell me the name of the guitar chord where you take a standard C fingering and just move up two frets?
so:second string, fifth fretthird string, fourth fretfourth string, openfifth string, third fretsixth string, open
it's some kind of D, but i ain't that smart
― alpine static, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 19:15 (three years ago)
D maj 9 with added 11?
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 19:32 (three years ago)
idk what it's called but i love that chord, have spent many an evening noodling around alternating between it and C just sliding the shape up and down
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 19:37 (three years ago)
It's the opening of "Man in the Moon" and is also used in the instrumental turnaround of "Sugar Mountain" (although the guitar is tuned down a tone).
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 19:41 (three years ago)
Em9/D ?
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 29 December 2021 19:42 (three years ago)
That chord shape is also good if you slide it down the neck so your first finger is on the eighth fret btw
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 29 December 2021 19:51 (three years ago)
Yeah, unless you're muting the low E, as it was described.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 19:54 (three years ago)
This is also the basic formation for the ending of "Starship Trooper" by Yes, except you're playing the fifth of the chord on the high E string:
G (8th fret)E♭ (4th fret)C (1st fret)
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 19:58 (three years ago)
If you don't mute the low E, it's just a regular Em9 iirc xp
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 29 December 2021 19:58 (three years ago)
I love chord shapes experimentation. I have never been able to grasp music theory well at all so I rely on shapes. Helps when I've found a strange tuning because I'm even more oblivious to the notes I'm playing. It's 100% just finding shapes that make pretty sounds.
― Evan, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 19:58 (three years ago)
On reflection, I see what you mean, because there's no A note to make this a proper D triad, but there's also no B note to make it an E minor. What chord it feels like depends on context.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 20:38 (three years ago)
definitely muting the low E
so ... D maj 9 w/ added 11?
yes, this is my favorite chord rn
thank you all
― alpine static, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 20:40 (three years ago)
i mean, to be clear, i don't *need* to know this with 100% precision/confidence. i'm just curious what this god-tier chord-ish thingy is called.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 20:41 (three years ago)
You're playing an Em9 but you drop the low E so you're left with D in the bass was what i was thinking xps
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 29 December 2021 20:43 (three years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omJDWo_N_Ak
― alpine static, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 20:54 (three years ago)
"Dadd9 add11" is probably a better name than "D maj 9 w/ added 11", because D maj 9 implies that there is a major 7th interval (C#) that isn't there.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 21:21 (three years ago)