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Shyness is my worst curse. I wonder what it would be like to be not-shy. That would be cool.

― Zarr, Thursday, 3 March 2005 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not shy at all. I'll talk to anyone anywhere anytime. NO FEAR.

― andy --, Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I am teh shy... I cure it with ALCAMAHOL. This of course is a very flawed methodology.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

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CAT POWER TO THREAD. RRrroaaoooowwwww....

― andy --, Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i am shy. i counteract this with jokes and detachedness. it's bad!

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm painfully shy, especially with people that i know i want to be friends/romantic with. i'm ok in work-type situations but i definitely struggle in social situations, i get totally tongue-tied. unless i have partaken of recreational substances.

― gem (trisk), Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I am shy IRL. I remain shy on ILX.

― Richard C (avoid80), Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I am shy, I countact this by avoiding face to face interaction with people and posting to message boards.

― kate/baby loves headrub (papa november), Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I relate to Gem's post. I am so shy sometimes it becomes painful.

Among people I know I might get drunk enough to speak up a bit.

― Zarr, Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

yep although sometimes the boozin'/druggin' makes me feel a bit worse because i become superverbaldiorrhoea woman

― gem (trisk), Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm with RJG here.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I was the kid that would walk back into the kitchen of a restaurant to chat with the staff. Sometimes I get shy around a different culture, aka the Hassidim on Bedford Ave. or the HMONG!

― andy --, Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Something about me makes Ned want to post on my every thread. Just a little comment here and there.

It's kinda sad but then let the lonely little man have his fun.

― Zarr, Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I am sorry you are so shy.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I am sorry you're so fat.

― Zarr, Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Something about me makes Ned ~~want to~~ post on my every thread.

― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Something about ~~me makes~~ Ned ~~want to post~~ on my every thread.

― betternw (bnw), Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm not very shy at all. shy people make me uncomfortable. i get shy around them

― JaXoN Hole (JasonD), Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:26 (twenty-one years ago)

For fuckssake bnw when have I EVER posted on one of Ned's threads? Are you really this stupid? HE posts on my threads not the other way around. I don't stalk him, he stalks me. OK?

Fucking hell, I post a reasonable enough thread and it gets hijacked...

― Zarr, Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

how are you doing, bnw?

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)

For fuckssake bnw when have I EVER posted on one of Ned's threads? Are you really this stupid? HE posts on my threads not the other way around. I don't stalk him, he stalks me. OK?

Nice try, dude.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I think you hijacked it yourself, zarr

― duncan bot, Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Of ALL the threads of mine you post on (i.e. 99%) you can dig up ONE from the past? And how sad is it you even know that? You are like the ultimate internet geek man, get a life...

― Zarr, Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Shyness is overrated! I think everybody's as shy as I am, but I don't indulge it. Note: I know this is snobby, and I'm sorry if I offend anybody. But I really do think this.

― Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I think my staunch elitism and sneakery sometimes gets mistaken for shyness by the working class I find myself surrounded by while shoplifting in the common markets.

― Huk-L, Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I think my shyness get mistaken for staunch elitism.

― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Shyness is nice
and shyness can stop you
from doing all the things in life you'd like to

― Seuss, Thursday, 3 March 2005 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Calum this thread was going nicely, so why did you have to dump on Ned? Why not pick on me instead? Someone your own size, like.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 3 March 2005 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

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Something about Ned on thread.

Somethin on the thread that Ned-Ned-Ned-Said

(xp: I'm not sure Calum realizes Ned's comparative size, really)

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 3 March 2005 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

So Calum starts a thread on shyness, thinks "ho ho! Ned will fall for this one, whats a bet!", waits for him to post something.. anything... then hollers at him for "following" him everywhere.

Dude. You are so goddamn dumb.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 3 March 2005 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think that that's what happened.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 3 March 2005 02:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned posts on all my threads and now you're reading this as "I antagonised him by posting this topic?"

WTF???

That wasn't even a thought. He posts on all my stuff.

― Zarr, Thursday, 3 March 2005 02:09 (twenty-one years ago)

dude all he said was "I am with RJG" and all RJG said was "Ah" so if you're going to freak out at anyone, freak out at RJG's ambiguity.

Also, seriously, go on, click on every single thread on New Answers. Find one thread Ned hasn't posted on and then your claim that he's specifically hunting you down will be more valid, cos AFAIK Ned posts on every single thread on ILX and ILM

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Thursday, 3 March 2005 02:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Ally speaketh wisely.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 3 March 2005 02:11 (twenty-one years ago)

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― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 3 March 2005 02:12 (twenty-one years ago)

OF COURSE Ned posts on all threads here. He's a nerd.

Jeez, that's it. Forget I even posted this thread in the first place and, yeah, it was going good for a bit.

― Zarr, Thursday, 3 March 2005 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

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― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 3 March 2005 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

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― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 3 March 2005 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Zarr, I don't know who you are but you don't own this board or any thread on it.If there was any person who could claim to do so with any legtimacy it would be Ned.

Now go away or shut the hell up.

― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Thursday, 3 March 2005 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

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― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 3 March 2005 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Calum it WAS going good and I was suprised you weren't acting up, so why did you throw a hissy? You do it to yourself, you do... yadda yadda.

Anyway I'm over this.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 3 March 2005 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

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― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 3 March 2005 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Calum, you don't know me, but I've been hanging around here for about 13 months, reading and occasionally posting, and I consider you a drippy, syphilitic little dick. Just sayin', is all.

Have a nice day.

― Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 3 March 2005 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

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― Webb Friendly (Webb Friendly), Thursday, 3 March 2005 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

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― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 3 March 2005 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

the whole thing started here, because you obviously MISREAD BNW'S POSTS

For fuckssake bnw when have I EVER posted...

so chill

― z, Thursday, 3 March 2005 03:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Newsflash dude, you are in fact posting on an internet message board. Like myself and everyone else here, you are a nerd.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 3 March 2005 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)

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― Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Thursday, 3 March 2005 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Shy kids are the best. Well, the ones who know what they're about and then open up to you.

― youn, Thursday, 3 March 2005 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

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― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:08 (twenty-one years ago)

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"AH!"

― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:09 (twenty-one years ago)

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― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i am very shy and always have been - i hated big family get togethers and would often go hide under the table. my job involves meeting strangers and getting on well with them instantly (i am a high class call gir... journalist) and i've done stuff on TV and do stuff on the radio every week and people say i seem very natural and relaxed but it *is all a strain, and i often wonder why i pushed myself in so contrar a direction.

my shyness often returns, with extreme prejudice, in normal social situations. often i'll find i can barely raise my voice loud enough for people in shops to hear me, minutes after i've been speaking on the radio in full flight.

― stevie (stevie), Thursday, 3 March 2005 11:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i am also *extremely clumsy, and this is related, i think, to the shyness. the less confident i feel, the more likely i am to accidentally destroy something/take a pratfall.

i dare say most of my friends wouldn't think i was shy.

― stevie (stevie), Thursday, 3 March 2005 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I am shy. Zarr is an asshole.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 3 March 2005 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh I didn't read far enough, it's calum. OF COURSE it's calum i guess.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 3 March 2005 11:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Shyness can be easily overcome if you want to. Honestly, just try pretending to NOT be shy, then suddenly, you're not shy. It's amazing how it works. To shy to shy, hush hush eye to eye.

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Thursday, 3 March 2005 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I get sick of the epic paranoid bullshit that goes on in my head non-stop every moment I'm in public. After awhile having people like me gets unimportant, I just want to be able to go about my everyday business without all the (totally imaginary) accusations, insults and abuse being hurled my way. I guess the main problem is that I'm always too conscious of what's potentially going on in other people's heads; it always feels like they're thinking the worst possible things about me. What's worse is that I'm also, believe me, aware that just having these thoughts implies insufferable egocentrism on my part.
ah fuck it it's not that bad I guess it's just almost 6am and all the dementia that always comes with staying up all night

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 3 March 2005 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

people think I'm shy in work, I'm not I just don't have anything in common with my colleagues so i choose not to engage in much conversation. Sometimes in my social life i wish i was more shy, i can say some pretty stupid regrettable things

I do have a quiet voice though, I think this gives my colleagues more reason to think I'm shy. Worst thing ever - attempting to say 'hello' or 'thanks' to someone and NOTHING COMES OUT OF YOUR MOUTH!

― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 3 March 2005 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

ask he said, ask for what you need
don't be shy, shyness is a little girl

― robert forster (mentalist), Thursday, 3 March 2005 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I was. I'm not anymore. In a few new ways, I've become very liberated (and will occasionally shed my clothes without invitation). This change occurred over the past year and a half. I'm at work, typing naked.

― BARMS, Thursday, 3 March 2005 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I am not very shy at all, will talk to anyone these days (see Smee on the TV thread) Used to be shy but the many weird and wonderful events of my life kinda forced it out of me.

Don't do public nudity mind you ....

― smee (smee), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

At some point in the last two or three years I think my shyness just evaporated. I think I'm nicely gregarious these days, occasional moments of crippling fear at approaching girls I fancy notwithstanding.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)

What a bloody shame. I was actually going to start a thread about the differences between shyness and introversion.

Because I am *not* shy in any sense of the word - I have no fear of public speaking, I'm not really *afraid* of talking to people (unless they are extraordinarily good looking boys). But I am intensely introverted. I don't *like* being around large crowds of people, I prefer my own company, or the company of a few select people. I get disorented by group situations and would just rather not do it.

To me shyness has this connotation of being afraid, of wanting to open up, but being unable to. Introversion has this connotation of not really wanting or even needing to interact with others.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to be painfully shy right into my twenties, but I'm quite far from being shy now. I really didn't like my shyness at all, and it frustrated me to great lengths that my shyness did not make any logical sense. The only thing that I could think of was fear of some kind of public humiliation. But, I thought that I survived all my cases of public humiliation in my life (mild, self depreciating humour helps).So, I literally talked myself out of it. Now I am not shy at all, twenty years later.

― peepee (peepee), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not shy at all, nor introverted. Actually, sometimes people accuse me of being *too* unshy, for example I might spurt out what's on my mind without thinking first who I'm with.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Shy people need a kick up the arse

― Some Dadaismus Implied (Dada), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i hate it when people say that shy folks should "just snap out of it" or "just don't be shy". the only people who say that are people who have never truly been shy. it's not so easy for everyone.

― gem (trisk), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Rubbish, I'm the proof of the pudding

― Some Dadaismus Implied (Dada), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Not so shy really, but I do clam up in certain situations. Once I know someone even a little I cannot stop talking, generally, but if I feel uncomfortable with a person or feel shoe-horned into a situation etc I can go very silent.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Proof for you is not proof for everyone. A person can train themselves out of shyness. But Introversion is more than a lifestyle choice, it is a fundamental part of someone's basic personality.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

'occasional moments of crippling fear at approaching girls I fancy'

thats when it matters though!

― charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't trained myself out of anything, OK so I should have said "Some shy people need a kick up the arse" blah blah blah.

― Some Dadaismus Implied (Dada), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

A kick in the arse does not work for everyone. A kick in the arse at the wrong moment would ruin some shy folk for life, sending them flitting back to their bedrooms, never to emerge again.

(Stick some jangling guitars on that, and I've just written the archetypical Smiths song, oh no.)

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I really really don't like the word "shy"

― Some Dadaismus Implied (Dada), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I hated being shy, but I remember, at times, talking my self into thinking that it was just my personality, or "a lifestyle choice". BUT I HATED IT!!! Its so limiting. I missed out on so much. Fuck shyness and, ahem, introversion. My interactions with the people around me add so much to my life everyday. Sometimes, that means some work on my part, but its usually worth it.

(Though I wouldn't have change via a "kick in the arse" from anyone else but me.)

― peepee (peepee), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Precisely!

― Some Dadaismus Implied (Dada), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Peepee, that's your choice, but I strongly object to your blanket statement of "fuck introversion".

I find it *exhausting* to be around other people all the time. I need time along, quiet contemplation, being by myself to recharge my batteries as urgently and physically as some people need human contact.

Yes, my human interactions with my friends mean a great deal to me. But I reserve the right to have them in a way which feels comfortable to me. Which involves it not having to happen all the time.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I absolutely did not want to imply the following:

a/ that "fuck introversion" was a blanket statement that applies to everyone
b/ that I did not need time alone and quiet contemplation (I could not survive without this every day)

― peepee (peepee), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Dadaismus seems quite quiet/introverted at ILE things i think, can't speak for the rest of the time tho.

my shyness has dipped from a horrible 9.1 five years ago to a reasonable 5.9 today, thanks interweb and girls

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey everybody, let's go streaking! We're going streaking! Woo!

― BARMS, Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

some people who think they are shy, are just cowards.

― bass braille (....), Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Posh schools cure this pretty hard. (They have other faults obv)

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

(hi, rjg! i'm good. you should come back to america.)

― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I won't look you in the eye. And I may of may not say a word in social situations.

I can't really say if I'm shy. Sometimes I feel like I have absolutely nothing to say, and I can't remember anything I'm interested in, and can't think of anything to ask. It all floods back later. Avoidance is my biggest problem.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I get mistaken for shy a lot just because a lot of the time I have almost no awareness of what's happening around me. I suppose I probably am pretty shy in that I can't start conversations but once I'm in them I don't clam up or gibber or any of that shit.

For some reason, this week I've been a twitchy, lump-in-throat, paranoid, babbling-constant-shit-while-drunk mess, though. Dan I's post above is a bit close to home, I'm hoping that once the weather's better I'll be a healthily-sleep-patterned dynamo again.

― Michael Philip Philip Philip Philip Annoyman v1.0 (Ferg), Thursday, 3 March 2005 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm shy at first...

― latebloomer: Klicken für Details (latebloomer), Friday, 4 March 2005 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)

And then?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 March 2005 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I learned/relearned the other day that neuroticism decreases with age, esp between 20 and 30 (a Proven By Science fact, not just What Some Guy Said), and that makes me happy.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 4 March 2005 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that must generally be true, but there probably isn't as much novelty and exposure when you get older. Before then, it really sucks because people who aren't shy have more time to build up social networks. So, I'm envious.

― youn, Friday, 4 March 2005 04:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm like, shy and stuff.

― Kim (Kim), Friday, 4 March 2005 04:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate how shy I am around most people. Close friends and family are an exception, to the point where some say I'm a completley different person around them versus around people I don't know as well. I'm even shy on here and lurk a lot more than I post. Maybe I need to drink more often???

― the krza (krza), Friday, 4 March 2005 05:46 (twenty-one years ago)

It's exactly the same with me, krza, and the strangers vs intimates difference. I think it's prob. like that with most people.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 4 March 2005 05:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I've become shyer with age! Though, I must say I never thought to differentiate shyness and introversion as Kate has done here. I guess mostly I'm actually introverted - I prefer to be alone, I avoid social occasions etc - but it is usually because being around a lot of people feels like such an effort. I dont *want* to have to be life of the party chatty, I get all down and withdrawn in company. Which is why I drink, then I'm fine. And that sucks balls.

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 4 March 2005 05:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, I have no problem standing up and making speeches and whatnot so maybe I'm not shy at all, just a snobby dickwad.

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 4 March 2005 05:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Sure, I just think I take it to extremes. Going out of my way to make an idiot of myself to amuse friends, versus being totally rigid and silent in situations where I'm not as close to people, for fear of making some embarrassing misstep. It's stupid...

― the krza (krza), Friday, 4 March 2005 05:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Not being shy anymore saves me moolah cuz I know I'd drink alot more if I still was.

Also, not being shy DOES NOT mean having to be the life of the party or chatty.

― peepee (peepee), Friday, 4 March 2005 07:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess I know that logically, and yet can't stop myself from stressing/worrying/babbling shit in company :(

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 4 March 2005 07:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I get sick of the epic paranoid bullshit that goes on in my head non-stop every moment I'm in public...I guess the main problem is that I'm always too conscious of what's potentially going on in other people's heads; it always feels like they're thinking the worst possible things about me. What's worse is that I'm also, believe me, aware that just having these thoughts implies insufferable egocentrism on my part.

I remember some of this from when I was shy, and in fact, this helped me get rid of it. I KNEW I was being overly paranoid because this was not how I viewed others. So I had to make myself consistent, or else the suspicion of what's going on in others' heads is just really what's going on in mine.

― peepee (peepee), Friday, 4 March 2005 07:22 (twenty-one years ago)

See but the problem is that other people are constantly reporting having thoughts that I never have, so I don't know what to think. According to what other people say, every movement, action, conversation, etc. with another person is full of annoyance and disdain for that person; whereas I'd be hard-pressed to identify any person I encounter in daily life that I don't mostly like and respect and more often than not even look up to. So, yeah. As far as I can tell most people in the world never stop hating (so they say), and since the life of my mind doesn't run that way at all I really don't know what to think.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 4 March 2005 07:34 (twenty-one years ago)

a/ I'm positive its not most people, just that many of these people are vocal about their stupidity and impatience and intolerance. People who are not like this (the vast majority of us) aren't going on and on about annoyance and disdain, cuz we don't really gots it.
b/ Whether you're shy or not, some people are gonna be overly critical of you. It really doesn't have to do with whether your shy or "chatty" or whatever. But, you choose whether or not that's gonna dictate how you're gonna be is this world of YOURS.

― peepee (peepee), Friday, 4 March 2005 07:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Another disadvantage is that you miss out on opportunities to learn from interacting with people. Maybe it takes maturity and perspective, rather than confidence, to go through with social ordeals for this reason.

― youn, Saturday, 5 March 2005 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)

One of the greatest highs in American life is to win the presidency. One of the greatest lows is to be the runner-up. In many other democracies, the runner-up remains the leader of the opposition and is often one of the most powerful people in government. In this country, the runner-up instantly becomes a reject, an anachronism, the ghost of politics past. (from National Journal, "Bucking History: Life after Losing" (03/05/2005))

I've been think that popularity and self-confidence are different here because Americans, so they say, are in love with success. I wouldn't mind a quieter kind of amiability.

― youn, Saturday, 5 March 2005 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

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