I HATE APPLE

WHAT DID HE EVER DO TO YOU??????????

All too true.

Apple replaced my new iBook's motherboard while I was in Japan. That's hundreds of dollars worth, at no charge to me. Of course, it shouldn't have failed within six months in the first place...

That's why they charge you double upfront!

Because I don't believe in a company making you pay for a warantee that should be offered for free upfront. I was under the impression that a one-year warantee meant that if something goes wrong in the first year, they actually fix the thing, not put you on the phone with several douchebags who are trying to sell you additional warantees.

Shit, when the first warantee doesn't seem to work, why would I want to buy another one?

But it does sound like you have a problem with your serial number, Jay.

tho when i was waiting there, i did see todd oldham.

My tech experience with Apple has been sensational. A friend called me today to tell me that his mini iPod was replaced in less than five business days, and he also got the new generation mini in place of his old one that had died. No charge.

I've dealt with Dell and Gateway and their CSRs are no better than Apple's. HPs can blow me, they've sucked.

the desktop I have at work running XP has been up and alive for 2 years with barely any reboots. It does everything I want it to do, does it quickly, and I can navigate painlessly without ever touching the mouse if I feel like it.

I was raised on Apple and my first job was DTP on a Mac, followed by audio editing on a Mac, more DTP, and so on. OS 7+ had more than its share of problems and stupid quirks but the hardware was rock solid and at least its behavior was predictable.

Since getting my latest-edition powerbook I've put it through little more than I ever tried to do with my old OS

...OS

My old Quadra used to have a TV Tuner in it and be able to do image captures from live cable broadcasts, then I could import them into my cheap, incredibly easy to use paint program and do whatever with them. I believe it cost approximately half of what my laptop did! My laptop lets me chat and surf the internet. And rip CDs.

Well today it decided it wasn't going to wake up again, ever, as I'm being greeted with a totally white screen.

What's funny is that like doing searches on my own to try to figure out wtf this computer is doing right now (I mean not even the sad face x-eye Mac or the question mark Mac! NOTHING AT ALL! WHITE SCREEN! I know how to handle the other things!), everyone who is reporting similar issues to me is like bitching about how they have all this important blah blah blah they were doing with the Mac prior hand. Is it that no one who has this failure who is only using their Mac for chat, porn, and MP3s can be bothered to get in on the discussions, or is it because they don't die if that's all you use it for? Because yeah, it seems like my sleep problem increases tenfold whenever I've been using my iBook more for writing or photo work. If all I've done on the damn thing is use iChat for two weeks, no problems whatsoever with starting it up, back when it, uh, started up.

What does this imply??? Is there like some inherent instability in the majority of the "native" programs that come bundled with OSX or is this just really fucked up coincidence?

Also it seems that this particular issue with the iBook G3 was so bad they threw the whole "your warranty is expired, give us $500" shenanigans out the window, and searching on this same issue with "Powerbook" has not given me the same results--ARE IBOOKS PIECES OF SHIT? wtf?

*with the exception of my ancient PowerMac that I had when I was 14-15-16, which only died because my sister is a dick.

I am pretty close to deciding to become the female Punisher, except murdering computer firms, instead of bad guys.

And then kind of ran away????

That was pretty funny.

Should’ve said [command-L] no longer highlights currently playing song. Or maybe it does but also hides it from view.

Command l working for me last I checked. Will double check in a bit.

Got a new Mac Mini. Migration went very smoothly. Except I'm now in a situation where I can't switch between accounts, can't logout of an account, can't shut down, can't restart. So I'm going to reach under the mini and do a hard restart. Less than three days after getting my new computer! not great

Tahoe is strange visually.. Finder icons are very soft and fuzzy looking. I actually really love the clear, bold look of the sidebar icons and I wish I could make them all look like that

In addition to its jaw dropping ugliness, Tahoe is buggy af. Mail can’t sign in to my work’s Exchange server. I can’t drop an image file into Messages to add a picture, I have to open it, select all, copy and paste. And so on.

I'm in the market for a new laptop, as my 2015 pro is on the fritz and needs a monitor to function. Ultimately would like to spring for a (refurbished) M1, which looks to be about $1500 on places like back market. However, it's a stretch for my current financial situation. On the other hand, the new Neo could meet essentially most of my needs, it's only $600, and has the benefit of being something I won't have to shit myself with anxiety quite so much if I bring it out to coffee shops, etc. On the other other hand, I could just spend something like $250 for a refurbed 2015 (so essentially a $250 screen repair)

to be about $1500 on places like back market

spoke too soon, it looks like they have these available for as low as 700-ish

so maybe time to just buckle up and do that

MacBook Pro (2021) 16-inch - Apple M1 Pro 10-core and 16-core GPU - 16GB RAM - SSD 512GB

Just to share one example. They have this one for $750.

And it doesn't have the stupid woo woo rainbow bar so that's a plus

Don't get an M1 MacBook Pro unless it's really cheap. The M1 MacBook Air is just as good – they shipped with same chipset. Air just lacks the Touch Bar you hate and has slightly better speakers (my wife has one cause it was heavily discounted).

M1 Air was $999 new I think so must be pretty cheap now. I still use mine and it runs great.

eh the M1 pro chip in what the above poster posted is fairly more performant than the basic m1 chip in the macbook air

i'd be a bit worried about the battery health of an old laptop but i bet a battery from 2021 is bound to be much better than a battery from a 2015 macbook

CmdSMdE, i'd do one of these M4 macbook airs - the m4 chip should be better than the m1 pro

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/fc6u4ll/a/Refurbished-13-inch-MacBook-Air-Apple-M4-chip-with-10%E2%80%91Core-CPU-and-10%E2%80%91Core-GPU-Sky-Blue
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/fc6t4ll/a/Refurbished-13-inch-MacBook-Air-Apple-M4-chip-with-10%E2%80%91Core-CPU-and-8%E2%80%91Core-GPU-Sky-Blue

Thanks so much! My current 'book is a 15-inch, and the extra space is really handy for music stuff and translation work, so if you have any recommendations w/ 15- or 16-inch screens I'd be most appreciative

Ah sorry I didn't notice the Pro got an update in 2021. My comment refers to the launch 2020 models

hmm I don't think I can find a 15" or 16" screen macbook in the $750 range from a reputable source xp

This is the one I was looking at

https://www.backmarket.com/en-us/p/macbook-pro-2021-16-inch-m1-pro-10-core-and-16-core-gpu-16gb-ram-ssd-512gb/73b93534-c21a-4b57-90ab-4f4eb6e09a40?l=11

I have two m1 macbook pros and neither have the touch bar, that must've been killed in the middle of that.

if they have a good return policy and/or warranty and it's the size you want go for it. my only criteria for the new apple silicon macbooks is you must get 16gb of ram. i have had two with 8GB (one from work, one mac mini i bought) and both got real slow

I've used the M1 Air with 8 gb for a few years now, amazing machine, $799 or so brand new. I was told the way Apple Silicon handles memory means it can do more with less RAM. I've recorded and mixed songs on it in Logic, Photoshop/Illustrator, even a little Premiere. The screen size/ storage are the bigger bottlenecks to me than the RAM. I would check out a Neo as a possible replacement someday for sure- I have and love my Studio for actual stuff these days.

The Neo isn't an M processor, though, so I'd want to see some youtube reviews or whatever before I counted on it to run Logic well and stuff- the tipping point for me on the M1 Air was youtube vids with people showing off Logic sessions with hundreds of tracks running on that machine.

Neo also limited to 8 gigs ram. I'm impressed you comfortably did as much as you did with 8 gigs but I wouldn't risk it.

Especially as Adobe and others have moved to subscription versions they are bloating with AI nonsense. I’m skeptical too.

Apple’s Camera-Equipped AirPods Reach Late Testing in AI Device Push

Apple also aims to address privacy concerns from people who don’t want to be filmed by gadgets — an issue for smart glasses as well. The company has built a small LED light into the earbuds that will turn on when visual data is being fed into the cloud.

Yeah that should do it.

when visual data is being fed into the cloud

it'll be interesting to see what they end up using their proprietary private cloud compute infrastructure for. it's about three levels above what anyone else has deployed, but it's unclear at what scale they're looking at doing it

https://security.apple.com/blog/private-cloud-compute/

I'm still mad about the "lighting" to 1/8" headphone jack converter business. I'm dealing with ANOTHER frayed/broken adapter, they make them so cheap and shitty, it's so fucking infuriating how they clearly just did this to make people's lives harder so they'd fork over cash for air buds or whatever they are called

bluetooth ear buds are really cheap now fwiw

I can't imagine ever going back to wired ear buds or even headphones.

My AirPods Pro are my favourite Apple product tbh (yes they have converted me into someone who thinks £180 is a normal amount to spend on headphones). But I really don't want cameras in them.

chinese temu airpod reps are so good and only 25£ - save the real money for sony WH-XM series cans imo

I got Pros a few years ago for the size options of the silicone tips, and the GOOD good noise cancelling. Never regretted it but I miss my Master & Dynamic ear buds that I lost on a scooter trip. :( They had more buttons and controls so I didn't have to get my phone out to skip podcasts or answer calls or w/e, something I think the Apple airpods are bad at.

Already replaced my Macbook Air with a Dell laptop this year and I'm very happy. There was no good reason for me to go with a $1000 Apple laptop to use Google sheets and the internet.

you can set options for click/double click and I think even triple in the AirPods settings, and even different options for each ear

I don't have much set up because I am absent-minded

bluetooth ear buds are really cheap now fwiw

what does this have to do with it? why would it be hard to just have a headphone jack so people can choose their experience?

chinese temu airpod reps are so good and only 25£ - save the real money for sony WH-XM series cans imo

Do they seamlessly connect to my Apple TV with spatial audio?

xp i already have headphones but now i should pay for cheap junk that i will need to charge at night, that will be easy to lose in the laundry, and that will talk to me or make annoying beeps when the battery is low? no thanks

Sorry, I've been sidetracked into Apple lust thread talk – I had good intentions!

lol. out with you!

xp i already have headphones but now i should pay for cheap junk that i will need to charge at night, that will be easy to lose in the laundry, and that will talk to me or make annoying beeps when the battery is low? no thanks

― Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Friday, May 8, 2026 11:39 AM (fifteen minutes ago)

do you even own a TV?

i love watching TV (on my laptop)

you're telling me people listen to music on their PHONE?! where do I put the tape into it?

I want to thank everyone itt for helpful advice as I navigated a purchase of a refurb macbook. I did end up getting a 2021 16" pro from backmarket for around 700 and i'm very pleased, and would recommend for anyone who has similar needs/budget

I’m using the same setup and after 5 years feel no need to upgrade (unless there was a way to get rid of this fuck-ugly, dysfunctional OS front end)

I'm itching to recommend the Macbook Neo to someone

"I’m using the same setup and after 5 years feel no need to upgrade (unless there was a way to get rid of this fuck-ugly, dysfunctional OS front end)"

If it's an Intel one then get Linux on it. I buy Macs when Apple obsolete them by stopping security updates for whatever version of their shitty OS they run and wack either Linux Mint or Ubuntu on there. I'm typing this on a 2015 iMac 27" with 5K retina display, 32Gb RAM, i7 chipset etc. that I paid £100 for, and with Ubuntu installed it does everything I need. This sort of thing's not for everyone, granted, but if you're able it's definitely worth considering.

^ this is what i'm considering doing next actually

i feel like i am just over being at the whim of these dumb companies and finally want to cross the threshold into knowing enough where i can just customize my experience the way i want/need it. a trade off in terms of time/energy at the front end maybe, but i think it's the right one to make

and because I HATE APPLE

I like the Linux idea but every install I’ve done has been a three way fight between my lack of expertise, the challenge of third party support and my irritation at the lack of polish (which is silly but a major element of the experience for me)

However the increasing compromise needed to put up with the rock stable OS core and ultra clean text rendering etc is wearing away at me. It’s mildly embarrassing how close to the edge the visual and functional crimes of Tahoe have pushed me.