thanks
― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)
― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)
― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)
― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)
― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)
"you're all a buncha.... colorists"
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)
"i said - " *gasp* "COLORISTS!!"
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)
On one level my favourite is the man who did much of V For Vendetta, but since he has been one of my best friends for nearly 25 years, I am biased.
In art: I really like the Delaunays, and Klee is an all-time favourite colourist, but I was thinking earlier about Fiona Rae, my favourite living artist under 70. There is a subtle richness and originality in her colour work that I adore. She uses mauves better than anyone ever.
In film, no contest: Hiroshi Teshigahara. I wrote about Rikyu (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098204/) on FT a while back, and it is by far the most ravishingly beautiful film I've ever seen, and that is more to do with his colour sense than anything else. There is scene after scene that uses different palettes, different kinds of palettes, every few minutes, and it's regularly breathtaking.
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:57 (twenty years ago)
― anthony, Friday, 4 March 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 4 March 2005 23:16 (twenty years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 4 March 2005 23:20 (twenty years ago)
The story goes: Giorgione, Titian, Veronese, Tintoret, Correggio, Reynolds, and Turner.
But I'll say Giovanni Bellini too.
― Zed Szetlian (Finn MacCool), Saturday, 5 March 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)
David Batchelor explains Warhol as formalist in his brilliant book Chromophobia, using the prep drawing of the paint by numbers as an illustration to a chapter calledApocolypstick after the Serge Gainsbourg song. Batchelor calls intoquestion the idea of Warhol as cold, as someone who did not care aboutformal concerns--of Warhol as no more of a painter then the robots whopaint cars in Detroit automobile plants. He moves Warhol into apainterly obsessiveness, a creamy, campy, colour fieldist. The chapteris about colour as a signifier of decadence--back to Marilyn's eyeshadow, the gold buttocks, the painterly smears of tabloids andIranian princesses.
Batchelor talks about Warhol bringing trash to life--but notthe ordinary idea of film gossip and casual sex, not the conceptualtrash Warhol is forgiven for but a formalist, painterly trash. This isa low trash of mark-making, colour and technique, a trash of brightpinks, acid greens, lemon yellows, crimsons--and a trash of luridsmeared shapes, half traced lines and blackened corners.
Warhol's use of colour, according to Batchelor, is decorative andtransformative. The decorative comes because it does not seem toconnect to any larger concern aside from being pretty, it does notopen up spaces, abut other colours in strange ways, recede or command.It is not the coloursof the abstract expressionists who came before him or the starknessof the minimalists who trained colour after him. It is the colour ofcosmetics, literally (lipstick, eye shadow, rouge, bronzer) andfiguratively (the colour that is there just to be, the colour ofcandy, waxed fruit, silk flowers, the arch colour of the other.)
as for freud, his sickly, rotting, flesh--his treating the most obv. examples of desire as fleshbags--is haunting and sickening--and he has gotten better at it. (the pus yellow of the robe, and the sallow porridge of the exposed breast in the painting of the staffordshire terroir and woman from the mid 50s or even the v. recent kate moss, or he shadows that hide in the corpulence of bowery
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 5 March 2005 01:45 (twenty years ago)
Freud's color is just as you say it, and that's may well be all there is to it.
― Zed Szetlian (Finn MacCool), Saturday, 5 March 2005 02:00 (twenty years ago)
Does that make me an old stodge.
― Zed Szetlian (Finn MacCool), Saturday, 5 March 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 5 March 2005 02:06 (twenty years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 5 March 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)