I don't want an iPod . . . .

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because they're un-necessarily hipster and it forces me to use iTunes, but I do want a HD MP3 player of some description. Zen? Philips? Any ideas?

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Monday, 7 March 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

Creative Labs? Archos?

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Monday, 7 March 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

i still want a Creative Zen.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 7 March 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

What, specifically, is hipster about an Ipod?

― peepee (peepee), Monday, 7 March 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

iRiver.

iPods are now considered trendy by stupid, unstylish people, which is almost as bad as them being hipsterish.

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 7 March 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

You guys are so hip in your rejection of hipness!

― stephen morris (stephen morris), Monday, 7 March 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

You do not need Itunes to use an ipod.

― svend (svend), Monday, 7 March 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

Vinyl is hipster.

― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 7 March 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

Is this right? Zen Nomad = 60gb = 1/3rd the price of a 40gb Ipod? What's the catch?

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Monday, 7 March 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

The Ipod still has the best interface i've used on an MP3 player.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 7 March 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

HD size is not the only consideration for an MP3 player, battery life, physical size and UI are important, unless it's just for in the car.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 7 March 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

I've had a 60GB Zen for a couple of years now and its fabulous. So I just bought my partner one.

[It's the anti-iPod (i.e. it gets the whole "what's that? THAT's not an iPod!" from folks) in the same way that for years a Mac was the anti-PC. I believe that's irony. Alanis?]

― Huey (Huey), Monday, 7 March 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

ive had the archos 20Gb for 2 years, not a single complaint from me, its fine. its chunky and not very stylish, but you can record vinyl direct to mp3 on it. perfect

― charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 7 March 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

as does my I-river, which is ace, haven't had a single problem with it in the 8 months or so I've had it.

― ceebee, Monday, 7 March 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

i was going to buy an iriver h140 but they stopped making the thing, and replaced it with the overpriced h340 which has photo support (which i don't want) and looks like it was made in russia in 1981. now i don't know what to get. sigh.

― zappi (joni), Monday, 7 March 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

i have 40 GB Zen, ITS MY LIFE AND ITS MY WIFE

― latebloomer: my cats are wobderful (latebloomer), Monday, 7 March 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

i don't think battery life is a strong point for ipods anyway

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 7 March 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

I don't want an ipod
I just need a Zen.

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Monday, 7 March 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

What's not to like about iPods? For a start, nothing so far-reaching and ubiquotous can really be considered 'hipster' (and even if it is, who gives a damn?) and what exactly is your beef against iTunes?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 7 March 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

it isn't so great, on PCs, alex in NYC. did you design it?

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 7 March 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

Oh, sorry. I'm a Mac user.

Did I design it? Hahaha. I can barely spell the damn thing.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

I decided against an ipod because I know it will get lost or stolen. I don't need portability *that* much.

― Yr3k (dymaxia), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Thank you, now I have that Texas song in my head thanks to the thread title.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

it works fine on pcs unless you are a huge fucking idiot or are using a 486.

― green uno skip card (ex machina), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

or have windows millenium

― ceebee, Monday, 7 March 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

why would you do something like that?

― green uno skip card (ex machina), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

I like the look of the Archos range. I hadn't even heard of them until my uncle (in his late 60s, retired TV engineer) told me about his 100GB PVR model. I felt like a young fogey.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

It's not funny if you do it on purpose, you know...

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

doesn't itunes want to use a lot of memory?

is there a nonidiotic way to limit its usage? apart from not using it.

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

Do any of these have better battery life and/or are more reliable than the iPod? I have wanted an iPod for a long time but these issues have stopped me from buying one so far.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

The Archos range seem to offer 10-20hr music playback (according to model) per Li-Ion recharge charge (half that for the video modes). I imagine it's a 30 quid battery too, not an Apple special. Win 98SE, ME, 2000 & XP too.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

recharge cycle I meant

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

my Archos has terrible battery life

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

my i-river varies, but usually I get about 10-12 hours of use per charge. Nice file tree system of organising too.

― ceebee, Monday, 7 March 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

or have windows millenium

-- ceebee (ceepeebe...), March 7th, 2005.

why would you do something like that?

-- green uno skip card (j()nathan.william$@geeMaleDotCom), March 7th, 2005.

hahaha because some people get their computers cheap from relatives with that shit preinstalled!

― latebloomer: my cats are wobderful (latebloomer), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

but yeah i know, get one job, etc.

― latebloomer: my cats are wobderful (latebloomer), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

I want to design AM/FM radios that look like iPod's, then sell them for $6.99 at the flea market.

― andy --, Monday, 7 March 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

\m/

― latebloomer: my cats are wobderful (latebloomer), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

i love my 60GB zen. i wish it had more hard drive space tho. i use it with Notmad Explorer, which kicks ass.

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

I was thinking it may be a good idea to sell iPods already full of songs, but then I guess an iPod would cost $10,000.

― Aaron A., Monday, 7 March 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

except mine's half full of songs from classical cds i took out of the library or albums i borrowed from friends & family :P i could fill an entire ipod for free thanks to the library.

― Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)

shiny sony alternative to ipod shuffle as just posted on slashdot:
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000697034975/

linux support is the killer for me, i'd want something that just looks like a mass storage device when plugged in so i can copy files to it without them forcing me to use their (non-linux) guis.

i like the little 1G iRiver iFP-899 (which also does ogg vorbis). i like the solid state nature of these things whereas i don't think i'd trust the working parts od a hdd based on. that said, 2000% the storage for 33% more money can't be ignored. decisions, decisions.

> I like the look of the Archos range. I hadn't even heard of them until my uncle (in his late 60s, retired TV engineer) told me about his 100GB PVR model.

you just need to watch more QVC 8)

― koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

iRiver also have a 512MB player, just announced, with DAB tuner, something that would really tempt me.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

Music is sooo hipster. omg.

― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

The Zen is the most awesome thing ever. That 24 hour battery life is no exaggeration. It is bulkier than the iPod, but that's really the worst thing you can say about it.

― Candicissima (candicissima), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

five months pass...

Apple began to send out invitations to the media on Monday for an event to take place on September 7 in San Francisco, hinting at a major product unveiling surrounding its iPod music player.
The announcement, which reads in part, "1000 songs in your pocket changed everything. Here we go again," had Apple enthusiast and technology news sites alike abuzz with guesses on what the announcement could entail.
In normal Apple fashion, very few details were given in the invitation itself. However, recent moves by the company are providing a few clues as to what will be unveiled next week. Motorola CEO Ed Zander on July 25 promised the iTunes phone would be out before the end of September.
"On one of the 66 days left in the quarter -- we're not saying which one yet -- Apple, Motorola, and our biggest operator partners around the world will announce -- and ship -- the first iTunes phone," Zander said at the time.
But Motorola had not announced any press events as of Monday afternoon. Zander said the two companies would hold a joint event to launch the phone.
Another possibility is a video-enabled iPod. On July 18, the Wall Street Journal reported that Apple had been holding talks with major music companies about selling music videos, with rumors that a video iPod could be launched as early as September.
Such an announcement was seen as a way to keep iPod sales brisk through this year's holiday season.

Apple so far has refused to comment on what it calls "industry speculation."

http://www.betanews.com/article/Apple_Event_Fuels_iPod_Speculation/1125347099

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 02:36 (twenty years ago)

iPods are almost at the level of cell-phones now -- once a status symbol, now approaching neutral device.

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 02:38 (twenty years ago)

The funny thing is, there are already phones out there that take photos, video and play mp3s so its not like Apple would be doing anything groundbreaking.

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 03:13 (twenty years ago)

But it would look really fucking pretty, and that's what counts.

― Yes, I have heard of pizza (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 03:17 (twenty years ago)

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