― djdee (djdee2005), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)
However, I've been making them at home lately WITH DELICIOUS RESULTS. A deli by my place sells gyro meat, so I just make some tzatziki sauce (and buy some pitas and feta) and we're ready to roll.
CAVEAT: I've had some bad ultragreasy gyros too, unfortunately while I was sober.
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ed (dali), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― jbr (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― jbr (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)
I might have to go with shawarma, but you can't really get gyros in the SF Bay Area (just like I don't think you can get shawarma in Chicagoland and doner is everywhere in Germany)
BTW, are they pronounced gee-rows or ji-rows in your locale? I ordered a gee-row in Washington DC the weekend before last and the attendent asked if I wanted a ji-row instead.
― mikef-who-mostly-lurks (mfleming), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Hellenic People of the World, Monday, 7 March 2005 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― jbr (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)
xpst
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)
two nights ago at berkett i was complimented on my pronunciation of "lamajun". but he was also kind of teasing me at the same time, for even giving a shit.
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― jbr (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― jbr (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)
I remember a commercial (maybe Jack in the Box) where the correct pronunciation was spelled out very clearly (Jack also did this with "chipotle"), therefore I don't feel pretentious about it. Maybe this was only on the west coast (at least 10 years ago)?
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― jbr (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.jackinthebox.com/images/locations/us.gif
― jbr (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)
and yeah, gyros are classic obv.
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 7 March 2005 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)
THANK YOU! I've been trying to remember that word for a month and a half! I was talking with my friend about "Armenian pizza" (how Armenian parents convince you to eat it as a small child :P) and neither of us could remember what it's actually called.
― Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― paulhw (paulhw), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)
With hummus and tatziki pls...mm hungry now.
― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 01:26 (twenty-one years ago)
100% on the money, i feel like someone who pronounces "karate" "Ka-Ra-Tey" if i say "yee-ro" even if it is correct, the americanized version sounds less ostentatious.
― djdee (djdee2005), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― ()ops (()()ps), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)
i pronounce it "geer-öss"
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― ()ops (()()ps), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)
This is actually closest to what i say.
Cross Rhodes is my best shit ever, i even bought one of their t-shirts.
― djdee (djdee2005), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― ()ops (()()ps), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― ()ops (()()ps), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― ()ops (()()ps), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― snotty moore, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 02:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 02:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― ()ops (()()ps), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 05:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 07:33 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.insiderpages.com/search/17659bcab081ded85d65c9f0d5909650/details.html
― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 08:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 08:58 (twenty-one years ago)
But yeah, when push comes to shove, I'd rather have a shawerma.
― Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 09:11 (twenty-one years ago)
doner kebabs and doner sandwiches were all over france, the uk, and italy. the quality varied pretty widely. doner sandwiches are a cholesterol bomb: meat off the spit, fries, tzatiki sauce (or in france, mayonnaise, though i always held the mayonnaise). i guess the closest equivalent that's easily won in the states is the "gyros sandwich," but the meat isn't exactly the same.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Allyzay, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)
"craft - work" sounds awful though. most everyone i know says "krahft - verk" (you don't have to overdieterize it, but just being somewhere in the ballpark of correct shows some intelligence).
― lychee mello (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― lychee mello (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)
Also FWIW if these subjects are actually coming up regularly in your conversation, you are pretentious whether or not you pronounce it Fass-BIN-der or Fass-BIND-er so I'm not sure why we're even discussing this.
― Allyzay, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― lychee mello (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Magic City (ano ano), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)
so is there a difference between a "greek doner" and a "turkish doner"?
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― djdee (djdee2005), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)
On the other hand, last night I had cause to use the word "frisson" in conversation, and as I was about to say it, I realized I had never said it out loud before and I had no choice but to say it all Frenchified, because I didn't know else to do it.
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)
Actually, to be a little more precise, a gyros (note the singular. Just like there isn't one "kudo" there isn't one "gyro") is basically a Greek version of a doner/donner/döner kebab or schwarma/schewarma. The typical gyros (pronounced YEE-ros, as the Kronos posters plastered across Chicago inform) is made from lamb meat. There are also chicken versions of it, but this is a relatively recent development.
I've also heard them being made with dark turkey meat(in Greece, of all places), pork, and even veal. The main difference between a donner and a gyros is the sauce that comes with it. Donners may come with hummus and/or some hot sauce, while gyros are served with tzatziki (a cucumber-yogurt-mint (or -dill) concoction.
That said, a good felafel is just as good, if not better (this coming from an ardent meat-eater.)
Real talk.
― djdee (djdee2005), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― snotty moore, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― djdee (djdee2005), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)
Shawarmas > Doner > Gyros
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Johnney B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 08:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 09:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― kate/thank you friendly cloud (papa november), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 09:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 09:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 09:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― stelfox, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)
What's the proper way to say pasta?
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)
sayin dutch right is hard cz you have to combine ladidah pretension w.hockin up good
― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― stelfox, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)
Fuck the Turks and don't listen to the barbarians. Greek historians trace the origin of gyros to soldiers of Alexander the Great, who skewered their meat on long knives and cooked it repeatedly, turning it over on open fires.
― Dean, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)
ingredients:
chicken marinade2 lbs. thinly sliced chicken breastsjuice of one lemona generous amount of fresh dill, coarsely chopped (i think i used 3/4 cup)about 10 mint leaves, coarsely choppeda few tablespoons of dried oregano2 cloves of garlic, mincedcoarse salt (a lot of it)black pepper (to taste)
spread cutlets out in a medium-to-large tray (i used an aluminum lasagne pan). score cutlets on both sides, making sure to puncture the fatty tissue. rub with marinade mixture until completely covered. seal tray with foil and refrigerate for at least two hours.
tzatziki sauce24 oz. plain yogurt2 large cucumbers (peeled, seeded, chopped)5 cloves garlic, minced1 tablespoon olive oil2 teaspoons red wine vinegar6 mint leaveshandful of dillpinch of sugarpinch of salt
drain excess water from yogurt by placing it in a dry towel and storing in a bowl. refrigerate the bowl until you are almost ready to cook the chicken.
drain excess water from cucumbers (a paper towel will do).
when yogurt is drained, discard liquid and spoon yogurt into a blender (this may require a little elbow grease), along with the cucumber, salt, garlic, olive oil, vinegar, dill, and mint leaves. blend lightly. if there's still too much liquid in the mixture, drain a little more yogurt through a slotted serving spoon and blend again.
set aside.
remove chicken from tray and place on your GEORGE FOREMAN GRILL, two cutlets at a time. cook until you see even grill marks on both sides. you may need to turn cutlets over halfway through. since the cutlets are small and thin, the cooking time should be very short. when you slice the chicken later on, you'll be able to tell if they need any additional time.
when all the cutlets are cooked, slice 'em up and plate 'em. while the grill is still hot, throw on some flatbread (as many as you need). put tzatziki sauce in whatever kinda ramekin-ish cups you have around. stack grilled flatbread on plate. bring it all to the table and serve with a simple green salad.
― jody von bulow (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)
― ()ops (()()ps), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)
― ()ops (()()ps), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)
― jody von bulow (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 22:11 (twenty years ago)
― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)
― ()ops (()()ps), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)
― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)
aww, thanks. i cobbled it together from about three different recipes.
― jody von bulow (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)
― charleston charge (chaki), Thursday, 7 April 2005 00:30 (twenty years ago)
― ()ops (()()ps), Thursday, 7 April 2005 01:01 (twenty years ago)
as penn & teller would say: BULLSHIT. besides, i don't have one of them rotisserie things.
looks like Alton Brown is doing a show on gyros starting....now.
i saw that! note to self: next time buy greek yogurt (the awesome middle eastern importing place is only a few blocks away).
― jody von bulow (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 April 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 7 April 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)