Best of Youth [The Italian Movie]

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Has anyone else seen this? I went and saw it on Monday and Tuesday night at Film Forum (it's a six hour film, so theatres split it into two screenings), and I don't think I've ever been more moved (devastated, more accurately) by a film. It follows two Italian brothers and their friends and family from 1966 to 2003, covering all the disasters, natural and political, that went down in Italy. Intricate, engrossing plot; compelling characters; simple but effective cinematography; plenty of beautiful Italian women; not a damn second of bad acting. I guess it was originally broadcast on Italian television as a mini-series, but now it's getting world-wide release--well, as wide as a six hours Italian saga can be released... Anyway, if you get the chance, go see it. I still haven't recovered (and I'm cynical bastard like the rest of you).

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 10 March 2005 07:08 (twenty years ago)

I saw it last year in London. Not a bad bit of film...although you have to admit, it was quite a bad handling of "Who Wants to Live Forever".

I'd recommend it to anyone who likes longer films that unfold over decades (it's hard to resist mentioning 1900). Although, the film's major weaknesses to me are that it skirts the issues of politics while not committing to any point of view - except to say that terrorists are bad - and that the first part spends forever on the "kidnapping" of that young girl...which is supposed to mean something metaphoric and lifeshaking to the two brothers, each separately. But when she comes back into the picture, it takes so long and pays off so little, it makes me wonder what the effort was. Then the second half seems so rushed for time, constantly sticking around each time period long enough to set off the plot devices, then moving forward another three years or so.

I really do like the film; these aren't major problems with it - it's just that the good stuff is so subtle and creeping up on you that it is much harder to praise it. The acting is magnifico indeed, and I enjoyed seeing the little psychological nuances gradually expand and come to a head within each character - doing things that wouldn't make sense all of a sudden unless we slowly saw them shifting towards that - more like real life in this sense, and one of the few great things you can benefit by (and absolutely should use) if you have the scale of canvas a six hour film provides.

If you feel like you're not going to like the movie already, don't go. But if you're at all curious, you absolutely must.

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 10 March 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

I have the DVDs at work... do you think it's better to watch both parts one after the other if you can? Or to leave a gap? (Physical comfort notwithstanding.)

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 10 March 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

i wouldn't watch all six hours in one sitting. I saw the first three hours one night and the next three hours the next night and it flowed seamlessly.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

iirc it was a miniseries in italy? so can be watched piecemeal in "good faith".

N_RQ, Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
I had a similar experience, Poortheatre. Part Two is deeply affecting and I was loath to say goodbye to the Caratis after six hours. The DVD will be on my wishlist come Christmas.

Cherry Red, Tuesday, 12 April 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

I believe it was several days in between the two parts, so yes, it is very much okay. No problems here.

Girolamo Savonarola, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 01:11 (twenty years ago)

Girolamo's take completely OTM.
Funnily, for a 6 hour affair, I felt it was a bit rushed. Maybe they could have really gone for the TV series approach and let it unfold in, say, 12 hours.
A bit corny at times, but a really subtle take on the characters (e.g. I like how Nicola, although the typical good guy, is not completely blameless in what unfolds).

Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)

It IS a TV series... I thought the first half was decent but, shall I say, undramatic? Then the Film Forum ended it before I could get into Part 2, and no commercial NYC theater picked it up! I mean, wtf?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
I don't trust my reaction to this film for another 48 hours... just like I can't process my extended family's comments to me during holidays and annual reunions properly until a few days after saying goodbye.

I got the hot-nose-bridge sort of crying multiple times during the film, though. Hour for hour, much more frequently than most movies. (I'm not a difficult cry at movies, believe it or not.)

Eric H: not a troll, with one exception (Eric H.), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:57 (twenty years ago)

Sat down and watched the whole thing again in one sitting on the big screen at the NFT about two weeks ago. Having already known what was going to happen, it was great to watch and anticipate, and also be surprised again. I didn't remember how funny the film was. And the entire New Years Eve sequence, especially from when Matteo drops in on the family until when Adriana (the mother) quits teaching...oh my god. It has been a long long long time since I remember getting that emotional over a film. On the verge of tears that whole 15 minutes.

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 24 June 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

I did eventually see Part 2, and while it's certainly a creditable piece of work, it didn't nearly get to me in that way. Though I liked the last scene on that rural path.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 June 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

Luigi Lo Cascio really deserves any accolades that might come his way. It can't be easy to convey resilience and decency for six hours and not come off totally irritating.

Eric H: not a troll, with one exception (Eric H.), Saturday, 25 June 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

The scene where Nicola has the kid read the letter about his mom. Humor and pathos like PB&J.

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 26 June 2005 02:35 (twenty years ago)

seven months pass...
I thought this was excellent although unfortunately it kind of runs out of steam after the New Year's events (but that sequence, even though you see it coming, whoo damn.) And whoever said that the politics ends up being kind of periphal and meh by the end was dead on. Still these seem like minor nits. Fantastic acting and tons of sharp dialogue. Made the mistake of watching an episode of Lost sandwich between halves of part 2 and it looked embarrassing by comparison.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

And whoever said that the politics ends up being kind of periphal and meh by the end was dead on.

I'd say this is intentional, reflecting how the politics lose significance as the characters grow older and more detached towards the times. It all ends in a 'growing one's personal garden' ideal.

Baaderonixx, born again in Xixax (baaderonixx), Friday, 10 February 2006 09:01 (nineteen years ago)

eight months pass...
Anyone seen his other stuff? Retro in Brooklyn.

http://bam.org/film/series.aspx?id=108


I read some good things on the Pasolini one.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

Until the last two hours get rather scattered, attempting to tie lots of loose ends, this is almost great. The mother gives a heartbreaking performance.

Heric E. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 July 2009 02:10 (sixteen years ago)

Watched this last year, on the insistence of Scots-Italian friends. It's amazing, as immersive as Mad Men or The Wire. Thought the politics becoming peripheral and meh towards the end reflected what actually happened as much as anything. The English language DVD package is just awful, though - gives you no reason to pick it up at all.

Soukesian, Monday, 20 July 2009 07:40 (sixteen years ago)


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