If your teenage self got in a time machine to visit you now/in the future, how would he/she react to meeting you?

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Mine would maybe express disgust and want to kick my ass, but probably wouldn't say much, the solipsistic fuck!

eman (eman), Friday, 11 March 2005 05:35 (twenty years ago)

I used to ask myself as a stoned teenager:

If I could see me then what would I think of me now?

and as a stoned adult

If I could see me now what would I think of me then?

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Friday, 11 March 2005 05:36 (twenty years ago)

I dunno. I guess I'd think I was pretty cool.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 11 March 2005 05:41 (twenty years ago)

"All right, I DID get to grow my hair out!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 March 2005 05:45 (twenty years ago)

Mine would wonder why I'm wearing flared trousers, then he'd play some Falco records.

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 11 March 2005 05:49 (twenty years ago)

My past self would not understand how to operate a modern computer, and my current self would not understand how that could be.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 11 March 2005 05:50 (twenty years ago)

Probably equal parts disgust and admiration.

kate/thank you friendly cloud (papa november), Friday, 11 March 2005 05:51 (twenty years ago)

"All right, I DID get to grow my hair out!"

Aw fuck, Ned, now I have to think up a new answer ...

My past self would probably be amazed at how much smarter I've gotten in certain respects, and how much dumber I've gotten in others.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 11 March 2005 05:57 (twenty years ago)

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Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 11 March 2005 06:01 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, my younger self would love all the CDs and books, wonder what CDRs were and be completely confused at DVDs (but I'd say something to younger self about mini-laserdiscs and that would clear it up). Definitely be amused/bemused by the Cube as well, but would really love the fact that the same desk (which originally comes from the 1920s or something) is being used. Might possibly be concerned at the fact I'd seemed to switch back to glasses from contacts, but I would assure younger self that various women over time had found them sexy, which would simultaneously reassure younger self as well as convince him that yes, sex was in fact in his future.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 March 2005 06:02 (twenty years ago)

teen self: "i get laid eventually right?"
me: "of course."
*high fives*

eman (eman), Friday, 11 March 2005 06:03 (twenty years ago)

I wouldn't tell my younger self about any of the sex. Spoil the surprise. I mean, that one girl that was an auto mechanic? Best to just let it happen.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 11 March 2005 06:09 (twenty years ago)

Now:  "How in the world did you get Mom and Dad to sign off on the second set of ear piercings? Why did you gain all that weight? Oh cool, you can wear hair clips now! Whoa, look at all these regular clothes in your wardrobe! What did you do with my uniforms? Oh good, you're steering clear of wearing skirts. I'm glad to see you finished school! What? You're having to continue? Aw man! Um, how did you get through all of 2003? Did you, like, get drunk or something? You don't EVER get drunk? EVER? WHOA. What happened with the political beliefs? Ohhhhh. OMG! You DO get to go online FINALLY! Yay! I guess with that you don't HAVE to get drunk. Or drink period, apparently. So... you DO end up having male friends, huh? Never mind that whole boyfriend thing -- BOYS ARE ACTUALLY TALKING TO YOU IN PUBLIC AND THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT OUT OF SOME DARE? HOLY COW! And look, look at all these other friends from interesting places you've got!! Wow! So, how are you doing on the whole motorcycle thing? You don't want any anymore? No way! Why is that? Ohhhhhh. I guess that would be a good reason why. Um, wow, look at all the channels you can see now! HOLY COW, YOU CAN SEE STUFF FROM OTHER COUNTRIES! It's cool that you finally get to see Duran in concert, though I'm kinda disappointed you also didn't get to see David Sylvian as well. Oh, he actually doesn't tour anywhere near here? Big bummer. But, you've GOT to get to a cocnert soon!" And so on.

Surreal Addiction (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 11 March 2005 06:10 (twenty years ago)

We've done this one havent we? I thought this was the orig thread, which I recall being very sweet and full of nice thoughts. Anyone? I'd search but I'm doing a bajillion things at once here.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 11 March 2005 06:14 (twenty years ago)

Trayce -- you know, come to think of it, I think we might've! Hm. Or maybe it was from the point of view of a much narrower time frame, like five years or something. Hm.

(Sebastien, that was just odd.)

Surreal Addiction (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 11 March 2005 06:31 (twenty years ago)

I think I would be disgusted with now-me, the teenage me.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 11 March 2005 06:34 (twenty years ago)

"You've lost our looks."
"Yes. They were holding us back."
"You mean?"
"Yes."
"Yuck."

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 11 March 2005 06:40 (twenty years ago)

Would you retcon yourself? "You're wearing goth clothes BECAUSE THE SHOP ONLY HAD BLACK"

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 11 March 2005 06:40 (twenty years ago)

Surreal Addiction, your aside to Sebastian made me a)look closely at the pictures he posted then b)laugh hopelessly, so thankyou. (Still laughing)

estela (estela), Friday, 11 March 2005 07:10 (twenty years ago)

I'd imagine I'd say something along the lines of: "So, is that beard to cover up your encroaching chinlessless or some subtle way of masking the abject shame that is clearly gradually eating you alive. Why don't you have a proper job by now, you dick! Don't fuck up my future!" Then i'd probably throw a pint of beer in my face, tell me I don't deserve to own the albums I own and storm out in a huff.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 11 March 2005 07:19 (twenty years ago)

really really heartbreaking disappointment

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 11 March 2005 07:20 (twenty years ago)

much the way i feel about me

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 11 March 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)

now

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 11 March 2005 07:27 (twenty years ago)

You must be a master of deception then. IMO You're one of the nicest people on ilx.

kate/thank you friendly cloud (papa november), Friday, 11 March 2005 07:27 (twenty years ago)

Teenage me would be pretty pleased I think "hey, I do lose weight"

Matt (Matt), Friday, 11 March 2005 07:29 (twenty years ago)

aw, thnx kate!

i wouldn't trust my teenage self around the wife though!

hey, estela...how come you never post on the mongrels thread? i mean - you are one, right?

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 11 March 2005 07:35 (twenty years ago)

Wait.. what? Estela is a mongrel Aussie!?

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 11 March 2005 07:38 (twenty years ago)

-Probably be pretty impressed by all the new guitars and other musical equipment we have acquired in the past few years.

-Would definitely call me a sellout for working at a large company; it was easy to "keep it real" when i didn't have any bills.

-Would most likely ask me to buy some beer.

-Would be completely blown away by the fact that I now live in Japan.

-Might also be surprised that I still wear some of the same T-shirts (although only on weekends now).

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Friday, 11 March 2005 07:38 (twenty years ago)

trayce...yahoo.com.au?

can we turn this into a mongrels thread too?

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 11 March 2005 07:40 (twenty years ago)

Wha? We're still alive? Wow!!

Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 11 March 2005 07:41 (twenty years ago)

J-rock...the same t-shirts?

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 11 March 2005 07:41 (twenty years ago)

heh. i think of this idea sometimes. usually when i feel pretty positive and grown-up. either 'look at my cool apartment!' or when i'm wearing heels having lunch with a girlfriend at a nice restaurant or in the middle of a big design project or dealing with a client.

lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Friday, 11 March 2005 07:51 (twenty years ago)

Hi mully and Trayce! I am gradually moving towards posting on the mongrels thread, now that I have put in some valuable preliminary engaging work:)

estela (estela), Friday, 11 March 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

watch out for that col/moley guy estela.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 11 March 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)

I was a melodramatic teenager. I'd probably declare myself to be the biggest jerkoff on the face of the earth, then go smoke a joint and play with myself in front of soft-core porn & over an LP of Robert Smith singing to himself in the shower.

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Friday, 11 March 2005 08:23 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for the 'heads-up'.

estela (estela), Friday, 11 March 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)

...that was an x-post....

estela (estela), Friday, 11 March 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

haha watch out for that remy guy too.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 11 March 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)

Jer, I officially invite you over to my house to smoke some j's tonite and watch futurama, so there.

And woo estela! Go girl :D

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 11 March 2005 09:10 (twenty years ago)

erm, we seem to have drifted this thread topic somewhat. whoops.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 11 March 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

you think jer would play with hisself in front of futurama?

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 11 March 2005 09:15 (twenty years ago)

Well I dunno... Fry would.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 11 March 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

Dissapointment. Horror. Is this what it was all for?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 11 March 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)

My teenage self would be pretty excited by my current life, I think. Although I suspect he'd look at my career path in despair and make a load of completely different decisions as a result. Oh no! Space time continuum! Oh no!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 11 March 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

Note to future self - have more sex.

Matt DC, aged 15 (Matt DC), Friday, 11 March 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

"still single huh?"
"yup"
"but surely you're in love with a differnet girl now right?"
"nope"
"I hate you"

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

Teenage Self: So you did go back to England, huh?
Now Self: Yup!
Teenage Self: Cool! Do you meet lots of pop stars?
Now Self: I used to. Pop stars suck, stop wasting so much of your life on them.
Teenage Self: So did you become a fabulous artist or a novelist, then?
Now Self: FUCK OFF!
Teenage Self: Well, at least you're not married. Boys are icky!
Now Self: Right you suicidal little fuck, get out of here before I throttle you.

Masonic Cathedral (kate), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure we've done this, I remember thinking that teenage me would be surprised to find out 32-year-old me was married, and distraught that it wasn't to John Taylor.

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)

My teenage self would be flored by how good looking he ended up being:-)

lukey (Lukey G), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

I think my teenage self would be a little too intimidated to talk to me.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

I know for a fact my teen self would be surprised at how I've let slide my artistic ambition, considering how enthusiastic I was back then.

'for a fact' like this time machine dooby is really going to happen.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

I think my teenage self would be impressed by the fact that I was still into music and that I went out so much (something the teenage me didn't do very much). I think it would be surprised that I wasn't married; it might even dispair of me because of it.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

My teen self would be devestated to discover what has happened to the rest of my family though.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

POLICE!! GET THIS FUCKING WINO AWAY FROM ME!!!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)

Marcello wins.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

I didn't realise my receding hairline would recede all the way to my back. Jesus.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 11 March 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

"Man, you're slim! And pretty stylish."

"Thanks."

"Girlfriend yet?"

"..."

"You're a dorky fucking letdown."

"Technically, that's your fault. Anyway, you need to do me about a 1000 different favours."

"None of them involve sleeping or comics, right?"

"Well, actually, you gotta take better care of the comics. Also, ffs, do more at school. When you leave, you'll be hit later with massive self-loathing for not doing anything or travelling anywhere while you had the chance. Also, join the gym - please - and when Snickers spread comes out, fucking moderate yourself - the photo in the yearbook you'll take is so damn cringeworthy. Also, stay away from the sciences at GCSE and dump History for French or something at A-Levels. Keep in touch with the schoolbuds you came here with - they will really suprise you one day. Keep on to the good ones you have - and the ones that make you laugh - and ignore the rest - they ain't worth it. Just be more sociable and more involved - it'll make your summers more interesting. And worry not about the girls - sooner or later, they do take notice. But for God's sake, don't ever be ashamed of or malicious about the ones you do know. The chat comes with practice. Force Mum and Dad to be more helpful with the GCSEs, A-Levels and uni - work harder so you can stand on firmer ground when the time comes. Don't back down to anybody in the wrong - EVER. Be very careful when {our brother} starts showing signs of trouble cause he'll get worse, not bettter, and you'll need to make everyone take notice. If you ever go out with mates who buy spraycans, LEAVE THEM TO IT. Also, write this down."

"...We're so fucked."

BARMS, Friday, 11 March 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

I think he'd be happy. it'd be funny though.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 11 March 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

"You will get to write for the magazines you admire, but you won't have any money whatsoever."

Anna (Anna), Friday, 11 March 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

Actually, bearing in mind a lot of what's planned for the future and a lot of what's been happening recently, I think I'd be pretty chuffed with the way things turned out.

I'm not sure really what I imagined 26 to be like when I was a teenager. I assumed I'd be working, I had no idea doing what. I assumed I'd be having a lot more fun, that's certainly true. I thought I'd maybe be thinking about getting married.... hahahaha!!!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 11 March 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

"you're still playing Star Control 2?"

"yeah all the games that came out since 1993 really aren't that much better, and it's for free, it runs on my powerbook"

"you have a shiny powerbook from 10 years in the future and you use it to play Star Control 2"

"I'm engaged to this Ivy League hottie though!"

"You have all this awesome musical equipment, and this amazing computer, and you use it to play Star Control 2"

"....."

"....."

"Want to go a few rounds at Super Melee?"

"okay"

TOMBOT, Friday, 11 March 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

I don't know. I think the teenage me would be too disappointed that I wasn't GOTHICK 4 LIFE to be happy with anything else.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Friday, 11 March 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

Disappointment.

David Merryweather (DavidM), Friday, 11 March 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

haha TOMBOT wisely OTM, myself would be shocked to discover I'm still playing speccy48 on a high powered PC rather than any of the 3d games currently available.
life is odd.

But his socks would roxd upon seeing my ps2 and xbox stuff, and I'd say "you lucky person, you get to play gta3, vice city, and san andreas all over again"

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 11 March 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

I think teenage Tantrum would be simultaneously impressed and disappointed - impressed that I managed to cobble together a music-related career (geting paid to do many of the things he daydreamed about), but disappointed that I wasn't A Music Superstar.

I'd offer him the following bits of advice:

1) Keep working out: it's going to be harder to stay in shape as you get into your thirties.

2 a) Sex and relationships happen when you're not chasing after them. Don't get stuck in the trap of pining after a girl who Clearly Just Doesn't Like You That Way at the expense of the someone who might really want to get with you. Keep your radar on, but don't make it obvious. You could be having a lot more fun than you are.

2 b) You're a good-looking guy, but your club kid attire may be sending out queer vibes to girls that you're interested in. You're treading a fine line between hip proto-metrosexual and foppish dandy. At some point you'll want to make it more obvious which side of the fence you're on.

3) Swallow your pride and get some singing lessons. You've got great potential, but your pitch and phrasing are a bit suspect, and it's going to take longer to grow out of that on your own.

4) For fuck's sake, cut back on the hair gel, and DON'T BRUSH YOUR HAIR AFTER IT'S BEEN GELLED STIFF. Why not? Do I need to spell this out for you?

5) You qualify for some half-decent scholarships. Why don't get off your ass and fill out the paperwork for 'em?

6) I can introduce you to a number of people who can tell you what an utterly dubious mixed blessing it is to be a Canuck celebrity. Trust me, you don't want it.

7) Despite what Mom has pounded into you since day one, drugs and alcohol are not the devil incarnate. For God's sake, live a little. If anyone needs to get a little out of his head, it's you.

Tantrum (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 11 March 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

My teenaged self, no matter whether 13 or 19, would have a hell of a lot to wrap his head around, if I tried to explain the path by which we got here. On the whole, I think there would be inevitable sadness, since promise and dreams must transmute themselves into baser metals and life, after it's lived, has a wistful quality.

OTOH, I would hope that after the initial reaction of sadness, my teenaged self would come to recognize that I have many good qualities and haven't made a terrible of my earlier dreams and promise.

My teenaged self wanted a life of heroic proportions. While I have not achieved anything like heroic stature in outward terms, I think there would be enough elements of heroism evident that I wouldn't be a disappointment to my younger self.

Aimless (Aimless), Friday, 11 March 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

I'm backwards. My teenage self was *way* more ready to be disappointed than my current self. Like, Morrissey-level disappointed. I'm much more optimistic than I used to be, and I feel like I have a future far more than I once did.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 11 March 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

Teen self: You live with a girl? A girl who's into COMIC BOOKS and sci-fi? And you have enough money to buy WHATEVER VIDEO GAMES YOU WANT?!

And then he would be disappointed that I'm still not an amazing drummer/not famous/don't listen to much metal.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 March 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

"Why are you listening to hip-hop? Why is your hair its natural color and cut short? Why aren't you wearing JNCOs? [early teens] What the fuck, you don't have a degree yet? Didn't we go to Reed/Pomona/UT/etc. and then head straight to law school? When you go you're studying 'fine arts'? Hippie. At least you're still a pinko."

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 11 March 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

I think my teenage self would be disappointed that I wasn't doing something more interesting or ambitious as a career, but I'd have to reassure him that almost nobody I know has a CAREER and that's just the way it is and it's perfectly OKAY -- that whole concept about there being ONE thing in the world you will settle on and do forever is just a myth, anyway.

Same thing with relationships: I bet he'd be bummed that I've only had one six-month-long relationship in the last four years, and he'd be anxious about my future in that department, but I'd say that I'm not really worried about whether or not I ever get married and have kids -- even I don't, that's fine, too.

He'd be happy that I was still writing, although he might wonder why I stopped writing more "creative" stuff like poetry and plays. And he'd think it was pretty cool and unbelievable that I was in a band that got to play at venues like the Metro.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 March 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

Hopefully he would get an ounce of ambition, and maybe go to cooking school instead of taking a four-year vacation at Mississippi State. Not that it wasn't pleasant, but I really should have gotten something more for my time and the V.A.'s money.

Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (Rock Hardy), Friday, 11 March 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm probably not supposed to think too hard about the sci-fi logic behind this question, but I'm confused about the people who are giving their younger selves advice on how to do things differently -- if they took your advice, wouldn't present-you then cease to exist?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 March 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

(Or maybe it just says something to me that I'd be all, "hey nothing you can do about it, this is just how it is.")

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 March 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

if they took your advice, wouldn't present-you then cease to exist?

Exactly.

...no, I guess I don't really mean that. Just some days.

Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (Rock Hardy), Friday, 11 March 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Like a teenage me would listen to a 30-something claiming to be future-me anyway...

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 11 March 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Haha!

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Saturday, 12 March 2005 00:07 (twenty years ago)

y'all have seen that south park episode, right?

latebloomer: damn cheapskate satanists (latebloomer), Saturday, 12 March 2005 00:31 (twenty years ago)

"What's happened to your hair! You're not a published writer yet? Only on 'the web' - what's the web? Is it a bit like this 'internet' thing? You're not married yet either? Or have your own home darkroom? You managed to leave Lincolnshire but then MOVED BACK? Are you mad? Hang on, did you just say you're *bisexual*??"

caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 12 March 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)

(as Jordan said upthread, though, the really big difference is having enough spare cash to buy pretty much whatever I want, when I want. And that's something that I've only actually achieved in the last six months - most of my twenties have been spent hand-to-mouth, and I'm always going to be worried of going back there)

caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 12 March 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)

i've gone back there caitlin.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 12 March 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

I used this premise for an assignment in a writing personal history class I used to teach! If you give it a real look, you come up with some heavy stuff, sometimes funny, often disturbing, and unually insightful....

pepektheassassin (pepektheassassin), Saturday, 12 March 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

Negative statements, that may be expressed:

1. Why am I a librarian?
2. Why aren't I married?
3. Why am I still studying?
4. Where's my C64?

Positive statements:

1. I have a lot of CD's!
2. I have a lot of books and comics
3. A guitar! Keyboards!
4. The internet, what's that???

Overall, I think they may be a little disappointed, but then I never promised anything to myself, and would remind myself of how morbid and stupid I was back then.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 12 March 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

PS My teenage Self was appalled, and shy, and greatly surprised and agitated. She did not recognise me. Then she burst into tears. But finally, she accepted what she saw, and we sat down together to talk about what never happened, what could have been, and what is. I felt bad.

pepektheassassin (pepektheassassin), Saturday, 12 March 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

"WTF are all these square plastic cases stacked on the shelves? They're ALBUMS? Cool, man, but they look like cassettes that a car ran over. Did Ronald Reagan ever get elected president? Yeah, I knew Mom wasn't REALLY going to move to Canada. And punk rock's still around? AND rock operas? On the same record? Hold on...you're not bald but your hair's so SHORT...god you sound just like my old man...and who's this little kid who looks just like me?"

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Saturday, 12 March 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

"Have Spurs won the league yet?"

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 12 March 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

Curious Geogre OTM re:college. I'd recommend cooking school, too.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Saturday, 12 March 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Y'all are a buncha materialistic bastards. But I am too, so...

Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 12 March 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)


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