If your current self got in a time machine to visit your teenage self in the past, how would you react to meeting her/him?

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I think this is a far more interesting question.

Would you think you were an annoying brat? Or would you think that your teenage self had an energy and a passion that made up for the naivete?

Masonic Cathedral (kate), Friday, 11 March 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

I would love to be able to meet myself as a teenager. I would wonder where all the paranoia & worries (of my current self) had come from & then I would see my teenage self taking yet another pill & then it would click! haha. Then my current self would worry about the teenage self!

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

Current self to past self: "You have shit hair. Stop taking as many photos with yourself in them, you're only going to hide them away for the rest of your life in embarassment. Oh, and by the way, stop listening to all this alt-rock nonsense and pretend to like Omni Trio now, it will make you look so much cooler in ten years time when you are posting on internet message boards for eight hours a day."

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

"Oh, and TALK TO MORE PEOPLE. It's okay, five years down the line you'll be feeling superior to most of this lot so you might as well get that whole intimidation thing out of the way now."

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

I think I'd like my teenage self, despite the annoying occasional preachiness. I'd tell her to relax and loosen up a bit, and assure here that there won't be nuclear war any time soon, but I think she was quite intelligent and thought a lot and would probably say very interesting things. I think I'd quite like having her around.

My 20-something self, however, god, I would smack her upside the head and tell her to quit mucking about.

Masonic Cathedral (kate), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

*gets out of time machine*
*punches teenage-self in face*
*gets back in time machine*

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Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

I had a better sense of humor when I was a teenager.

sgs (sgs), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

Is the time machine really necessary?
Assuming that I got to travel back in time and talk to the younger me, I would drag him to some party and work on some social skills and try to iron out some of the shyness. I would give him something to smoke and drink and say "just fucking drink and smoke it, you'll be doing more and more of this as the years go by and who gives a fuck what the parents will think about it. They'll be divorced soon anyway ... oh, surprise!"

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)

I would quite like the teenage me, but I'd probably spend most of the time telling her not to be so withdrawn, and to get over herself a bit. Maybe if I'd stood up for myself then, it wouldn't have taken so long to get where I am now.

I'd also tell her to pay more attention to her education. Doing just enough to get by will make her complacement and she'll regret it when she's older. Oh, and I'd tell her to look after her teeth, she'll have hang-ups about it for ever.

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

the horror, the horror

Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I forgot about the teeth thing. I'd tell her not to bite the bloody dentist, and to get my bloody baby tooth replaced.

Oh yeah, and stop dying your hair so much, you've given me bald patches!

Masonic Cathedral (kate), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

I feel like morgan freeman at the end of shawshank "I wanna talk some sense to him." My teenage self was such a mess, I wish i could have helped him out, but if I did, what would i be like now?

lukey (Lukey G), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

I'd give him a bunch of advice most of which can be summarised as 'stop wasting time and do all of this stuff now'. I would tell him to discover contact lenses, better clothes and vaguely decent hair, pay less attention to school (but read more), and come out earlier because the hottest boy in the year is at least willing to experiment.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

You never saw me...right?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

? Did the time machine displace Alex's teen self with Marcello's?

BARMS, Friday, 11 March 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

1. Don't eat the donuts in the 6th form common room - you will get addicted and start putting on weight which will leave you verging on 14 stone by the age of 20

2. When you split up with Leela 3vans at the end of your first term at uni, stay split up.

3. Just go into the family business when you graduate - it'll save 8 years of fannying about.

4. What do you mean, you don't like coffee? You fag.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 11 March 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)

"Psst, put all the money you have on Greece to win the European Championships in 2004"

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 11 March 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)

I'm now thinking about that bit in Back To The Future II when Old Biff meets his teenage self. "Its make like a tree and LEAVE, you idiot. You look so stupid when you say that!"

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 11 March 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

i'd probably hang out with myself. also tell me to not fuck around so much in hs and blow all your chances at getting into a good college. Then I'd punch myself in the fucking mouth for being such a smart ass when I went down kick the shit out of myself and yell to study.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Friday, 11 March 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I've changed that radically in the 10 years since I left school so I'd probably get on OK with myself.

I'd tell me not to fuck up my A-levels (well, I didn't really, I got 22 UCAS points but I needed 24 points to get into UCL!) and tell me to ask out the girl I had a crush on because in hindsight she probably would have said yes, but I was way too shy. WAY too shy. Maybe if I'd managed to get some confidence back then I wouldn't have been so shy and depressed throughout my late teens/early twenties (and beyond).

I'd also give me a big list of records to buy!!

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Friday, 11 March 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

"Kid, we are going shopping. And then to the pub. Oh, and I got you this almanac of 20th century sporting events."

BARMS, Friday, 11 March 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

"When you get to university and have a crush on two people: don't ask one out purely because you might not see each other again after the end of term. Not seeing each other again would be a *good* thing in the long run."

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 11 March 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

(I should dig out the Umberto Eco quote about counterfactual history - I think it's in Foucault's Pendulum)

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 11 March 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

For the love of God girl, you have no body fat. Stop worrying about the size of your thighs. This is a golden age of thin and you'll get boobs by the time you're 20.

Anna (Anna), Friday, 11 March 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

"Stop getting so defensive every time someone takes the piss out of you. Take the time to laugh at yourself and the world will laugh with you - not at you."

I remember the day I learnt to do this and it coincided with the day I stopped getting bullied at school.

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 11 March 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

depends what age I was.

14 or so. "You may not think it now, but what your brother says about your parents being over the top strict until you turn 16 is actually true. And once you're 18 you'll be allowed to do pretty much whatever you want!"

16. "so it might seem bad in a teenage angst way that you're single and things, and this won't necessarily go away at any stage, but when you're 18 you'll go out so much it won't matter."

18/19 "get some kind of job, because you'll meet more people, be happier, have more money/less stress from parents. in 2 years you'll realise this. (admittedly with a better job)

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 11 March 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

I think this is a far more interesting question.

see now, I don't, because like you have access to images of your past self and therefore can easily conjure up what you would do/say to that version of yourself. whereas, when you're a teen it's quite hard to imagine what you'll be/look like in 10 or 20 yrs.

eman (eman), Friday, 11 March 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

but carry on then :)

eman (eman), Friday, 11 March 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

NewMe to OldMe: "Jackie Atkinson REALLY fancies you, you idiot! Kiss her!"

JimD (JimD), Friday, 11 March 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

"Relax some more. You'll have a good time at college but you'll have a better time if you do that. And please, grow the hair out all at once, for our collective sakes."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 March 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

ugh. First a slap in the face.

then tell him to loosen up, develop some social skills, not to be intimidated by girls, stop listening to so much metallica, and read challenging things for gods sake.

i would say my teenage self had much less real passion than my current self. The "passion" of my teenage years was based more on lack of self esteem , angst, vague anti-conformity, and just plain stupidity.

AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 11 March 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

I think we would both just run away from our responsibilities and hang out exclusively for like 3 months. We both wanted siblings pretty bad.

I would also politely suggest that if he ever spent a week walking around wearing a maple leaf attached to his blazer label with a Daphne & Celeste pin, I would come back in time again and rip his fucking midget head off.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 11 March 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

Also, Go lessons.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 11 March 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

Heh, I think I remember when GP was a big Daphne and Celeste fan.

(that *was* in your Sinister days, right?)

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 11 March 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

I'm really afraid my future self is going to kick my ass now.

David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 11 March 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

most bittersweat ILX thread ever.

lukey (Lukey G), Friday, 11 March 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

I played Daphne and Celeste at Club FT about four months ago!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 11 March 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

I am still a big D&C fan! The only thing I want back from my stolen wallet is my Official Fanclub ID card :(

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 11 March 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

I wrote a long blog post on this very subject:

http://djearlybird.blogspot.com/2005_01_01_djearlybird_archive.html

Scroll down five posts to "Back to The Future Part 4."

mike a, Friday, 11 March 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

I'd love myself as a teenager, and probably drive myself to an X-rated theatre.

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Friday, 11 March 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Everything you're faking now will have to be sustained, so think carefully about what you think you should be doing and what you want to do and what you can do.

youn, Friday, 11 March 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

1. You're wasting your time chasing after Jess1ca Br0wn, and have no chemistry whatsoever. Any attempt to tell yourself otherwise is total self-delusion, because she's exponetially cooler than you and she knows it.

2. Mom knows you smoke pot. Don't bring the subject up and pass-judgement on stoners to try to throw her off the fact. It's patently obvious what you do.

3. Sy1via, Ph1l & Jon will still be good friends in ten years. N40mi will be a nasty burned-out ho-bag, and get over her. Seriously, get your head out of your ass, and get over her. She's not 'rebellious,' she's just loose. And the story she told you about her rape? More than 90% embellished.

4. Your english teacher TOM ANDREW (GOOGLE ME, BITCH!) IS a dick. Nobody believes you, because nobody has the capacity to understand how a psychologically-vindictive mustachioed shithead behaves toward a weird kid who threatens him. You'll be successful in a way that'll make him mega-jealous.

5. Jared Wasserman is going to sucker punch you on April 9th, 1998 in Jack Craig's class. You'll tackle him back (and really damn good) and you'll get in trouble for it. He won't. Instead of moping about what happened, just make sure to throw an elbow to his eye, because otherwise you'll be the only one with visible damage, and he'll tell Nick St. Jean (who tells everybody, as you know) that he kicked your ass. But he won't have one at all, he's a lying fuck.

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Friday, 11 March 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

6. Don't go camping with M4rk C4stro, because he WILL decide to question your heterosexuality. And more than question it, he'll take you as a challenge. And then he'll write you notes, and eventually follow you off to college. And you won't even get a homo blowjob out of the whole deal.

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Friday, 11 March 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

Haha, he does that to me ALL THE TIME, without a tent in sight.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 11 March 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

Oh shit, I thought that said M4rk C4s4rotto.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 11 March 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

Ha!

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Friday, 11 March 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

Don't go camping with M4rk C4stro, because he WILL decide to question your heterosexuality

Holy shit I thought he was talking about me there!

xpost, gah

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 11 March 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

"WHAT DO YOU MEAN, I'M NOT GOING TO GROW??????????"

The Ghost of 16-Year-Old Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 11 March 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

(argh y cant dany read)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 11 March 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

I think that I would react cooly. I'd also let him know that, yes, eventually, he would get laid.

Eventually....

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 11 March 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

I posted a bunch of stuff on the thread that runs parallel to this one, and that was more addressed to 18-year-old me. If I could meet me between the ages of 14 and 17, I'd say:

1) Learn to take a joke, now. (OTM, dog latin.)

2) Find a sport that you can at least tolerate and learn to play it with some level of competence. People don't know what to make of a grown man who won't play a friendly game of basketball / softball / hockey / whatever for fear of embarrasing himself.

3) K---- is not your friend and is just into fucking with people to see how much he can play them off each other. Drop him before he gets you into trouble.

4) Make sure you develop your keyboard abilites as much as your talents at recording / composing / sampling / sequencing.

5) You and C------- are poison for each other. You'll be sorry that you lost your virginity with her. Don't date her, and if you do, don't try being friends after the fact.

6) Your parents' marriage is a complete joke and is going belly-up before your very eyes. They're your folks, and they love you, but you should really take a lot of things they say with a grain of salt, because there will be days when they can't see past their own pain.

7) Keep an eye on your brother. Just do it.

8) No one likes a know-it-all, and people won't always share your passions, so there's no need to lecture people at length about your favorite music / movies / TV shows, etc. If they take an interest in things you like, then, fine, you can talk about them, but you should really wait to be asked.

9) Dave Gahan's haircut looks good on Dave Gahan.

10) Rakim and Chuck D sound cool when they rap. You do not.

Tantrum (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 11 March 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

Me to 18-year old me: DUMP THAT FUCKING BITCH AND GO TO ART SCHOOL.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Friday, 11 March 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

Me to 18-year-old me: "Don't beat yourself up about disappointment because ultimately everyone IS disappointing - it's not your fault. Also: learn more C programming"

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 11 March 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

I am surprised at the lack of gaying it up among the answers, here.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Saturday, 12 March 2005 01:50 (twenty years ago)

6. Don't go camping with M4rk C4stro, because he WILL decide to question your heterosexuality. And more than question it, he'll take you as a challenge. And then he'll write you notes, and eventually follow you off to college. And you won't even get a homo blowjob out of the whole deal. was pretty gay.

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Saturday, 12 March 2005 02:05 (twenty years ago)

Present-day me to 16-year-old me: "Please stop trying to rely on MTV and look for alternate sources for new music. You're going to spend a hell of a long time trying to play catch up because of this. Please drop a club or two. Years from now, it's not going to matter that you were a member of a heaping ton of clubs and organizations in high school; look, the only thing it's getting you now is remarks from your classmates who are in yearbook along the lines of, 'Are you in EVERY club here at school?' and that's NOW. Please learn how to do something fun and lighthearted. Please spend more time with your parents. Please go into the kitchen with Dad when he's making his stew-like dishes so you can learn how to make them. Please bully him into showing you how to do minor home repairs and be on his back to let you learn how to drive stick shift, once you're ready to learn how to drive. Please stop letting yourself be dictated to by your so-called 'friends'; if you don't want to do something with them, don't! It'll save you a lot of aggravation in the end as it will establish the presence of your backbone. Also, please know that the heartache you're currently experiencing because you have no male friends or boyfriends is not at all warranted. Teenaged boys aren't worth the dirt they kick up at the end of the day. Nurture the female friendships you have right now, try to develop new ones, and wait until you're an adult to meet up with males who won't have the mental maturity of a two-year-old. Please apply to as many colleges and universities as you can and try to pester them for every single crumb of financial aid they can toss your way. Please don't ever try to settle on anything, nor hold onto something out of pure obligation. Please try to do some more LIVING! Please don't waste one more second of your precious free time on going to some stupid theme park you don't even really like or hanging out at some dumb mall. Please don't be afraid to ask your parents if you can do things you want to do or get things you want to get. They're actually pretty cool about letting you do and get stuff within reason. Now, let's screw this club meeting and go get some milkshakes! You have a lot of living to do and not a lot of time to do it in. We'll hang out, talk about life and important stuff, I'll show you the cool fan-related stuff you'll end up having when you're my age, and you can tell me things about you that I've forgotten. Oh! And one more thing -- you'll get back to loving books again. Trust me. It'll take a long while, but you will."

Surreal Addiction (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 12 March 2005 07:15 (twenty years ago)

To teenage self:

1. Not every comment made in your direction is meant to be taken so deathly seriously. These people aren't plotting your demise, they're merely joking. Learn to take the joke and laugh at yourself, and you won't be bothered nearly as much.

2. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. If you want to ask that girl out, do it -- what's the worst that could happen? She says 'no'? Big deal, at least you tried. She will never approach you. You must take the fist steps.

3. Relax. There'll be plenty of time later on to get hung up and histrionic. You're in your teens, why are you so angry? You have no idea how easy you have it -- enjoy yourself, for cryin' out loud.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 12 March 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

This thread has made me realize that I'd much rather go back five years to speak with the 25-year old me than go back fifteen years to speak with the 15-year old me :(

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 12 March 2005 07:25 (twenty years ago)

There's a very similar thread to this about talking to your 12-year-old self that I'm lookign for but can't find. Does anyone know the one I mean?

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

Never mind - it's this one;

got a question for ya, nothing vulgar this time, i promise

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 00:01 (twenty years ago)

yes. i thought this was it. don't remember the title.
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()ops (()()ps), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 00:41 (twenty years ago)

First of all: Wear your retainer. More orthodontics are in the future if you don't. (i'm currently being suggested more braces in my thirties - yikes!)
Second: Go to Scotland for an extended stay with your father. (He died in 1989 - and I had the opportunity, the previous year, to live with him for awhile.)
Third: Travel whenever you can. (My biggest regret is not being more worldly.)
I have many regrets, but I would never want my life to change, in retrospect, too much, because I would have to lose too many people I treasure and adore. I was raped when I was 19, while at Barnard in NYC. Because of how that experience shaped my life, and because of the friendships I have from that time,and afterward, it's hard to imagine telling myself not to go there and experience that.
I'm more inclined to tell my young self to keep her teeth in line than to warn against impending doom. (With my father, I would just make a suggestion - a nudge).
I think the tragedies I have survived have shaped me, and I can't imagine who I would be otherwise.

aimurchie (aimurchie), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:38 (twenty years ago)

'Hey! You, dreaming of busting out of a hick town and thinking you're cool because you like both VU and G'n'R. Guess what? You're going to have a life as chaotic and decadent as your heroes, just like you want. Cool huh? Here's the catch though - you won't be rich and famous like they are, so about two decades from now you'll be as fucked up as you are now, except old and tired and poor. Anyway why I am bothering to tell you this, you'll forget, since you're drunk as usual. Bye, asshole!'

dave q (listerine), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:05 (twenty years ago)

"quit fucking around, and get fucking around already."

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:19 (twenty years ago)

In addition to the shit I said upthread, here's a big one more.

To my sixteen year old self:

All the romantic and existential stuff you think about is genuine, artistic, and actually meaningful and will serve you well as an adult. Unfortunately, when you talk about it as a teenager it sounds ridiculous, cheesy, and insincere. It's better for you to keep it bottled up - because it's embarrassing, and because the more you ruminate on it before exposing it to air the more full-formed, weird and interesting everybody'll find it. Think of your naturally, um, coked-out brain as (a) a gift and (b) a loaf of rising bread. And, proverbially, don't open the oven door until you're sure it's reached its height.

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)

What Alex said really:You must take the fist steps.

Hehe but seriously... I would tell myself that, actually, more people like you than you think, yes even BOYS. But your overwhelming fear of looking stupid is in fact making you look aloof, sarcastic, uptight, snobby and boring, so they will quite probably STOP liking you. Don't be so scared of everything. Hell, I should probably tell my CURRENT self that a bit more often.

Also, smoking pot will *not* turn you psychotic.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

"What Alex said really:You must take the fist steps."
It's funny how that typo has so much resonance. I had to take the fist steps quite early - grade school - when I started getting challenged for a fight. I have no advice for that young version of me - I fought hard and dirty. I took the fist steps.Which led to more fights.
The young pugilist - maybe I should have pursued a heavy-weight career.
When fighting back mattered, my pugilistic tendencies saved me from a worse fate. So I'm glad I took the fist steps.
I still regret not wearing that fucking retainer.

aimurchie (aimurchie), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)


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