Reckless Driving in North Carolina? What are the ramifications?

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I got pulled over on the way home for spring break, going roughly 84 mph in a 65 zone. It was an incredibly stupid thing to do, especially given the area (a veritable speed trap there). I just want to get this over with it and be done with it -- I'm well aware of the stupidity of the act.

Has anybody had experiences with reckless driving? And if so, what ended up happening to you, and with the court appearance? In particular, if anybody has done this in North Carolina recently, how'd it work out for you? And given that it could possibly suspend my license for at least two months, is this likely?

For the record, this is my first traffic offense, clean driving history otherwise. I think this might play out to my advantage. But I don't know.

mj (robert blake), Saturday, 12 March 2005 05:29 (twenty years ago)

Augusta, Georgia, late September
One Mr. Brown's hot tempered
This man's possessed, he's restless
He's armed and dangerous, drugged and reckless

Mrs. Brown you've got a lovely son
But he's on the run on a shotgun mission
"Listen here cocksuckers, motherfuckers, pay respect to my building.
It's JB property and it could be the one you get killed in."

Cops arrive, "What's this, what's happening,
What's what, where's the hot shot?"
James pushed his luck too far this time
His pick-up truck's flat out and flying

[s]"I wanna get into it man, y'know?"
Not now James, we're busy
Not now James, not now James [s]"Waaaahhh!"
Not now James, we're busy
Not, not, not now James
Not now James, we're busy

Cops get excited and grin with glee;
They got themsevles a celebrity!
Seven cars give chase
"You're in the clear...this is the race of the year!"

Faster Soul Master, they're coming at you from all directions
Speed's your protection...don't look behind ya 'til south Carolina
Cops spring a roadblock "He ain't gonna stop!"
"He's gonna take a pop!"

[s]"Fellas, I'm ready to get up and do ma thing!"
Not now James, we're busy (x3)
We're busy
Not now, James

Someone opens fire, the trucks front tyres are blown out
"Get the hell out!"...
A six mile skid, trapped in a ditch,
In the lap of the FBI, the Secret Service, the Russians
"They're all in this, they're doing it to James
Like they did it to Elvis"

[s]"I wanna get into it man, y'know?"
Not now James, we're busy
Not now James, not now James [s]"Let's deal with your mind"
We're busy [s]"Hold it now"
Not now James, we're busy [s]"Hold it now"

A "good-foot" dance in a dusted trance...
Breath tested "No Chance!" Arrested!

[s]"We're gonna do a song..."
Not now James, we're busy
Not now James [s]"Waaaahhh!"
Not, not, not now James, we're busy [s]"Hold it now"
Not, not, not now James
We're busy [s]"Hold it now"

... sorry couldn't help myself, thats no help to you at all is it.

Hope you dont get too much hassle FWIW!

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 12 March 2005 05:47 (twenty years ago)

Why is the citation for reckless driving instead of just speeding? Were you doing donuts in the Walmart parking lot (at 84mph)?

Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 12 March 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

No, it's just for speeding. But I thought the laws here classified it as that.

mj (robert blake), Saturday, 12 March 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

That is, speeding in excess of 80 mph would carry the same point penalty as reckless driving. Perhaps it was wrong to call it reckless driving.

mj (robert blake), Saturday, 12 March 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

In NC, if you're driving 15 or more mph above the speed limit, it's considered reckless driving. i think it automatic suspension of your license, but that may depend on your court appearance.

ct, Saturday, 12 March 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Well uh, since I'm about the only other person on ILM from NC, I feel obligated to help you out even though I really don't know much. I grew up in Chapel Hill, by the way.

I've gotten two speeding tickets in my life, both for 73 miles per hour. Once that was in a 55, and once it was in a 45. Both times I hired a lawyer, about $200, didn't need to show up for court, and he got it taken care of so I have no points on my record or anything. If you can afford it, I'd say just take that route. Pay the lawyer and then you can pretty much put it out of your mind.

Mickey (modestmickey), Saturday, 12 March 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

Thanks, I'm definitely considering the lawyer route, because affording it should not be a problem -- assuming that it stays under $400 or so. It sure as hell beats paying 2x on your insurance for 3 years and obtaining a misdemeanor record to boot. I could live with the license suspension and the ticket/court fee, if that's all it was, but unfortunately, that's only the beginning if I were to say "guilty" at court.

I imagine that the lawyer knocked both of your violations down to 9 over the speed limit. You still had to pay a small ticket/court fee, right?

On a completely different tangent -- Chapel Hill is a cool little town. I like it. Also, I grew up in Asheville, so I've been in the state for a long time. Probably will be moving out after university is through, though.


mj (robert blake), Saturday, 12 March 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

I lived in Greensboro. and before that Pink Hill. I bet no one has been to pink hill.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 12 March 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

I <3 pink hills! Snicker, snicker.

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Saturday, 12 March 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

mj, with both the lawyers I hired, the fee I paid them covered court costs, so all I had to pay was one bill.

Asheville is just beautiful! I love that town. I've pretty much decided to move out of the country ASAP, but if I did live in NC longer for whatever reason, it'd definitely be Asheville. I absolutely adore that town.

Back to the speeding tickets... I believe one of them was knocked down to 9 or less. The other used something with fancy initials which I completely can't remember. If I understand it correctly, it's a sort of get out of jail free card. You get one every three years or something and if you choose to use that, your speeding ticket is just cancelled... or something. I don't know how it works. Like I said, the lawyer handled it all for me.

I don't know how different it is in other states, but my impression is that speeding tickets here aren't really a big deal. I definitely got out of both of mine very easily.

Mickey (modestmickey), Saturday, 12 March 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

The other used something with fancy initials which I completely can't remember. If I understand it correctly, it's a sort of get out of jail free card. You get one every three years or something and if you choose to use that, your speeding ticket is just cancelled... or something.

Nolo contendere (no contest)?

Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 12 March 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

I think what he's referring to is a PJC, or prayer for judgement. I don't know if that's a no contest, in other terms. But the idea is that they choose to "overlook the offence" if you don't have any other tickets come up within the next 3 years, and by that time if nothing has happened, they'll completely remove the ticket from their memory banks. I think this concept is specific to the state, but I don't know.

I think it's too be used in a worst-case scenario, because if you have bad driving habits (which if this happens to me, I'm going to become the safest driver ever) and get stopped again, this comes back and bites you in the ass.

mj (robert blake), Saturday, 12 March 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

Mickey --

I agree with you about Asheville. Beautiful place. But something about growing up there makes you see it in a different light.

My plan is to:

A) First, I'm going to try and talk with the DA or someone that can represent him (of the specific district). I'm hoping for a plea bargain -- without the lawyer fees.

B) If that fails, then I go to the laywer.

Does this sound good?

mj (robert blake), Saturday, 12 March 2005 23:05 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, prayer for judgement! That's it.

Don't bother trying to talk to the DA before court. He probably won't see you. I tried to do that, and the people at the front desk wouldn't let me talk to him, so I lied and said I was doing some research for a high school project. Then they directed me to her office. When I stepped in there and started talking about my speeding ticket, he was polite but clearly agitated and told me not to talk to him again before the court date.

If you don't get a lawyer, you'll probably be fine. I really don't know what the penalty is, but from talking with other people, you just go to court, basically say, "Yeah, I made a mistake..." and it gets lowered to 9 above and you're fine. Or, you could just pay a couple hundred bucks to get a lawyer to do that for you so you don't have to show up.

Mickey (modestmickey), Sunday, 13 March 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and I know what you mean about growing up in Asheville, heh. I love Chapel Hill, it's great, but I can never live there again after spending my whole life growing up there. It's a shame. If I grew up anywhere else in NC, I'd love Chapel Hill and I'd be studying at UNC now.

Mickey (modestmickey), Sunday, 13 March 2005 00:04 (twenty years ago)

Oh, no, I wasn't going to personally visit, more likely telephoning. I have nothing better to do with my time here. If it really isn't going to work, then it won't take up much time anyway.

Funny how much I know about traffic law here after this incident. I'll never do anything over 10 in a speed limit on any highway, again...that goes double for unfamiliar areas.

One last question -- did you personally meet with your lawyers? Or was it simply something you set up over telephone? It wouldn't bother me much if I had to go personally visit, but taking time out around finals could be costly.

You've greatly eased my worries about this, so for that, I thank you. Misdemeanor record, shudddder. Seems like this is more a thing so insurance companies and lawyers get richer, than anything actually going to the state.

mj (robert blake), Sunday, 13 March 2005 07:08 (twenty years ago)

I never met with either of the lawyers at all. Just dealt with them over the phone.

Mickey (modestmickey), Sunday, 13 March 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

I was so convinced Roxy would have posted to this thread

nabisco, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 15:54 (sixteen years ago)

She lives in Tennessee.

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 15:57 (sixteen years ago)

She swerves a LOT

nabisco, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 16:05 (sixteen years ago)


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