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1. Superpitcher
2. My friend Ollie
3. Pretty much every single skinny indieboy I saw at the weekend

I am undecided, but coming down on the side of dud right now.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 14 March 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

I think it is a bit dud, but then I look at Superpitcher and go awwwww.

― RickyT (RickyT), Monday, 14 March 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

I am fairly convinced this look can only be pulled off if you wear a t-shirt showing off the fact that you have no biceps or body fat whatsoever.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 14 March 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

Classic if you've got the lurgee/sore throat (I wish I'd brought a scarf today as I'm already wearing my jacket indoors I'm so cold and shivery) but otherwise a bit silly.

Unless it really is your old school scarf from Oxford or something. I mean, then it's all Brideshead Revisited and therefore classic.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Monday, 14 March 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

The sort of thing I'm talking about isn't very Brideshead Revisited though, its a bit more of a psuedo-cravat thing.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 14 March 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

people have a very sophisticated way of 'doing' their scarves in my enz, and i don't know how it's done. dud says i, unless you have a cold.

― N_RQ, Monday, 14 March 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

I dunno Kate, wearing your old college scarf is a bit infra dig, yah?

― RickyT (RickyT), Monday, 14 March 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

Well, blokey out of Delays does it like the one in your photo up there, and I think that's adorable, as well.

x-post

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Monday, 14 March 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

i think buying college merchandise is probably non-u. in 'brideshead' it all be silk scarves?

― N_RQ, Monday, 14 March 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

Well, the only one I ever had was inherited from some moldy old relation who was probably at Oxford concurrently with Brideshead Revisited so I still think it's cool, humph!

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Monday, 14 March 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

(Also, please reassure me that you can't actually just go and *buy* them, that you have to have attended said college in order to get the appropriate scarf. Or my world shall be shattered.)

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

College merch may be non-u (my father disapproves utterly) but everyone seems to have it these days. just not outside the college town.

Wouldn't wearing a scarf indoors be horribly uncomfortable and overheated?

xpost I think everyone can buy 'em, actually. but never tried, so I could be wrong.

― lundy fastnet irish sea (cis), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

Oh, Cis, I'm so disappointed... Anyway, this is a lovely look. But out of doors, though.

http://dks.thing.net/brideshead_revisited.jpg

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

i think that you can buy this stuff in the shops down broad st (oxford) or trinity st (cambridge). i don't think that they'd ask questions.

xpost -- the cane makes the look there.

― NR_Q, Monday, 14 March 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Cravats are just as elegant:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/graphics/2003/08/21/btanthony2.jpg

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

Anyone can buy them. I have a Girton one kicking around somewhere; I think I wore it all of twice. The green/red/white looked a bit funny with the rest of my (95% black) first year wardrobe. Never got a Wadham one.

― RickyT (RickyT), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

You SO can buy the scarves. In the University shop in Oxford you can buy whatever scarves for whatever college you like. I was gonna buy one from every college, and then use them to make a huge scarf that ecompases the colours from all the colleges in some kind of art-scarf, but it would cost me million$ and I'm poor.

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

Oxford scarves are scratchy nasty things, though, really not worth getting. Big er fashion for wearing the hoodies, though. I had a plan to buy a similar-looking navy hoodie and make a crest for an imaginary college (St Aldate's! St Sebastian's!) and see if anyone noticed.

I stole a Harrow scarf off a friend (who hated the place and will never wear it) and it's loooovely. But Doctor Who sized, not cravat-like.

― lundy fastnet irish sea (cis), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

I am so sorry I derailed the thread.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

Scarves are an outdoor thing, strictly utilitarian. If you're cold - turn the heating up!

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

"You're So Vain," anyone?

― Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

If you're cold - turn the heating up!

You make tribesmen in the rainforests cry.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

Tribesmen in rainforests would agree with me - and besides, tribesmen in rainforests don't have a natty collection of scarves.

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

I always believe in just throwing on scarves and jumpers and cardigans and things instead of turning up the heating. Until I can see my breath, and then I think of turning up the heating.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

I thought this was Smees thread, some guy with a burberry scarf and white t-shirt kept butting into our conversation in the pub on friday. I think it's a very camp look.

― Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

I find some scarves like Superpitcha's wearing to be extremely sexxeee, esp if you're skinny. What I find MAJORLY dud is people wearing their glasses on their FOREHEAD. WTF is up with that? Is their third eye near/farsighted or something?

― nathalie barefoot in the head (stevie nixed), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

http://www.dacre.org/stills/webg/Gui0746.jpg

― Huk-L, Monday, 14 March 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

I think you think of it as camp coz he was. I'm surpirsed we didn't make more of it at the time actually - a scarf with a T-shirt - come on!

― smee (smee), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

That's not a scarf. That's some kind of supermassive cowlneck turtleneck sweater thing.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

Don't get me wrong, jumpers indoors are a good thing - regardless of the tribesmen, I don't want to pay a fortune in gas bills. However, scarves are a last resort, and if you're STILL cold after having put on two jumpers and a coat then by all means sort out your thermostat.

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

But what about your neck area? Even if you have long hair (and most blokes unfortunately don't) your neck is not always adequately covered by shirts and jumpers. A scarf protects that little drafty bit nicely.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

this is uber dud when done with a tshirt and scarf.

i reserve the right to wear a jumper and scarf OUTSIDE

but a tshirt is like saying "its warm enough in here to wear just a tshirt", and the scarf contradicts that by saying "im cold, specifically around my neck". therefore the whole ensemble speaks thus "i am an contradictory* idiot"

*for contradictory read: i havent even thought of the contradictions, i am just doing what all the other guys in the lecture room are wearing

― ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

polonecks. always.

― N_RQ, Monday, 14 March 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

I kept my scarf on at the last Club FT but one. With a jumper. I didn't realise I had done, to start with, but then when I noticed, I quite liked it. It swooshed around while I was dancing. I may well have looked stupid though.

Still, surely the Doctor Who argument is evidence enough to prove that yes, indoor scarves must be c rather than d.

― JimD (JimD), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

You will be pleased to know that your former housemate is considering adopting the contradictory idiot look.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

!!!!!

ok i take it back, but i am shocked.

let me add a disclaimer that such people can only be branded "idiots" if within the bounds of the University of Leeds

― ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

Classic, I love wearing scarves indoors. I am not a fashionable person by any means but it is a simple way to make me feel like one!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

in fact i realise that my anger should be directed elsewhere, beyond the scope of this thread. in my minds eye i have actually ben thinking of men wearing SCARVES with TSHIRTS OUTSIDE. like in the FREEZING YORKSHIRE WIND. yes its cold enough to wear a scarf outside. its also cold enough to wear a jacket!

― ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

Is there a mothering instinct inside the male anger at dandiness?

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

It's not 'a done thing' but I do it often in the winter.

― Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

I sometimes wear a scarf indoors, as it's cold at work. I have a boring grey M&S scarf, I think that nullifes the hipness of it all.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

Plus I just sorta let it drape around my neck, rather than wrap it round.

Who is this superpitcher personage?

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

It looks a bit twattish dunnit. Sometimes I end up doing it but it's mostly so I can cover three quarters of my face with it and not pay attention to anything.

― Michael Philip Philip Philip Philip Annoyman v1.0 (Ferg), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

Which looks immensely twattish, obviously.

― Michael Philip Philip Philip Philip Annoyman v1.0 (Ferg), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

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BAH!

― miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

But that dude looks like he's on his way to the shops.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

That reminds me, Anthony, to post this fellow
http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/ce/aug/pbogdanovich_150.jpg

(Supposedly it's to hide "chicken neck")

― Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

wearing scarves ANYWHERE is classic; neckerchiefs however are strictly for the women.

― jones (actual), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

It's all the fault of Ornaldo Bloomps. He wears'em everywhere. Probably to bed.

― Hey Jude, Monday, 14 March 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

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― Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

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The Fourth Doctor gets a free pass because his scarf is ludicrous.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)

its an affectaton, but i love my scarf so much i would wear it indoors every chance i got...

http://photos4.flickr.com/6590488_f356758874.jpg

[i can't quite explain my expression in this picture)

― stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

all indoor scarf wearers should have to wear matching leg warmers.

― eman (eman), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

I wore my scarf indoors the entire time I was in Europe. Did everyone secretly want to hit me?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe I only just saw this thread!

Absolutely classic! I think the best scarves are the muted colours, so Jel's is probably ideal! With a 2x2 rib if you're having a small scarf, stripey if you're going the full Tom Baker length - you have to work to carry this one off, and if it's going to be garter stitch it had better be home-made.

Stevie where on earth was that picture taken?! Were you in a TARDIS? That might explain the facial expression.

Eman: PERFECT.

Tim: Nooo! It made you look gorgeously Eurotrash!!!

― Lucretia My Reflection (Lucretia My Reflection), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

PS this is a compliment! I heart the preppytrash look.

I also think I like cravats but they're HARSH MISTRESSES. There was a CRAVAT WEARING KILLER on Dub Dog Deed the other week. He got away with it. I think age brings out a good cravat. BUT THEY ARE NOT SCARVES.

Man, who wants me to knit them a scarf!

― Lucretia My Reflection (Lucretia My Reflection), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

ally c

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

I like scarves very much, but I have a lot of trouble knowing the best way to tie them without looking silly or pretentious or sloaney or like I can't tie a scarf properly.

I think I am much more likely to think a man is nice if he is wearing a nice scarf.

― Cathy (Cathy), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

He can ask me himself, the cheeky wee diving get.

― Lucretia My Reflection (Lucretia My Reflection), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

I should probably point out that unless you are wandering around with a mug of herbal tea singing phrases from Tamino's/Pamina's/Falstaff's/Queen of the Night's/Donna Anna's/Nanetta's/Figaro's/Carmen's/(insert operatic aria here) to yourself intermingled with various vocal exercises, you don't have to worry about catching a chair leg to the forehead.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

I like this look, but the scarf has to be tied a certain way otherwise it doesn't look right.

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

Classic. I like doing this.

― BARMS, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

Stevie where on earth was that picture taken?! Were you in a TARDIS? That might explain the facial expression.

the lighthouse in dungeness! EVERYONE MUST GO THERE!!!!

― stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Hey Dan we'll STRANGLE YOU TO DEATH with our foppish scarves we will

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

hmmm xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxpost but:

re: "dandiness". I dont know much about being a dandy, but my conception of a dandy is one who wears something extraordinary, impractical or slightly ridiculous, and who revels in the attention that it brings, paying fastidious care to their appearance. My point is that in the particular environment I am in, the practice of scarves'n't shirts in or outdoor is so ubiquitous that to not wear one is to stand out from the crowd, to be different.

So scarves n tshirts checks the box for impracticality, but fails in the crucial aspect of being eye catching or extraordiunary, and thus i refute the claim that to wear a scarf with a t shirt out of doors is the sign of a DANDY.

further to this, i am reading some essays by Hazlitt from the 18/19th C. He constantly refers to the "FANCY" (his italicisation and capitalisation). Is he referring to dandyism? Can anyone schooled in the language of this period help?

― ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

http://beyondwords.typepad.com/beyond_words/The%20New%20Yorker%20Magazine%20and%20the%20Waiting%20Room/the_new_yorker.jpg

― sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

I wish there were more scarf in this picture.

http://giganticmag.com/images/self_04.12.29.jpg

― sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

the lighthouse in dungeness! EVERYONE MUST GO THERE!!!!

i feel much more strongly about this than about scarves worn inside. i so agree! i have amazing photos from in there as well.

― colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

Can't say I approve of scarves unless worn slung over the shoulder in a debonair manner. Or on girls. And always OUTSIDE.

― Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

I most heartily approve of scarves when they keep snow from getting inside your coat.

― sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

That's fine.

― Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

dude, i knew this was about ollie.

look, its simple. scarf indoors=girls

― charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

its true, girls go crazy whenever i rock this great look

― jones (actual), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

x-post: Yes, the Hazlitt reference to FANCY does refer to dandyism (cf. "Beau Brummell" essay)

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

Fancy a fag, anyone?
http://www.costumesinc.com/Costumes/images/30035-01.jpg

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

I wore a scarf last week because I had a horrible poison ivy rash on my neck.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

Argunaut, too long.

― Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

my old drawing professor used to wear bright orange scarves indoors, but he was extremely gay, so he gets a pass.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

i am disturbed by the footiness of the hand in the above photo

― jones (actual), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

I saw an ILXor wearing a scarf indoors, and looked pretty good, even though it was orange.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

ROCKERS stopped wearing scarves w/ leather jackets à la Brando when they started growing their hair long enough keep their necks warm - discuss

― jones (actual), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

xpost: shhh ;)

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

they do make it easier to choke the pretension out of someone though, hmm. that first pic is kinda aggravating. PICK A SEASON!

― eman (eman), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

whatever buddy REAL MEN FEEL A DRAUGHT

― jones (actual), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

only looks good on argunaut and scott walker.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

i once was dragged by a car from my scarf for block, having offending local fashion laws.

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

that musta hurt.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:04 (twenty years ago)

just when I hit the pavement after they let go.

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:05 (twenty years ago)

Argunaut, you know the story about Isadora Duncan, right?

― Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:05 (twenty years ago)

no, do tell...

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)

Wasn't she killed when her scarf got trapped in the car?

― nathalie barefoot in the head (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:09 (twenty years ago)

PARIS, FRANCE — Isadora Duncan, the American dancer, tonight met a tragic death at Nice on the Riviera. According to dispatches from Nice Miss Duncan was hurled in an extraordinary manner from an open automobile in which she was riding and instantly killed by the force of her fall to the stone pavement.

Affecting, as was her habit, an unusual costume, Miss Duncan was wearing an immense iridescent silk scarf wrapped about her neck and streaming in long folds, part of which was swathed about her body with part trailing behind. After an evening walk along the Promenade de Anglais about 10 o'clock, she entered an open rented car, directing the driver to take her to the hotel where she was staying.

As she took her seat in the car neither she nor the driver noticed that one of the loose ends fell outside over the side of the car and was caught in the rear wheel of the machine.

Dragged Bodily From the Car.
The automobile was going at full speed when the scarf of strong silk suddenly began winding around the wheel and with terrific force dragged Miss Duncan, around whom it was securely wrapped, bodily over the side of the car, precipitating her with violence against the cobblestone street. She was dragged for several yards before the chauffeur halted, attracted by her cries in the street.

― Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:10 (twenty years ago)

ugh, a friend of mine lost his hand in a similar fashion.

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:11 (twenty years ago)

http://www.sfmuseum.org/photos14/duncan2.jpg

Born at Taylor near Geary in S.F.

― Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

OTFM

― eman (eman), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 00:02 (twenty years ago)

t-shirt + scarf = possible sexual confusion

― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

only good if it's a silk scarf.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)

Wool t-shirt + silk scarf - dainty masochist
wool t-shirt + wool scarf - dotty weaver or 'autonomous' shepherd
silk t-shirt + wool scarf - beauty but so so cold
silk t-shirt + silk scarf - 'Shall we take the top down?' *Sneers*

― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 00:16 (twenty years ago)

The legend is that Isadora was given that particular scarf by Preston Sturges mother.

― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:03 (twenty years ago)

Preston Sturges's mother being a close friend of hers and a designer.

― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:05 (twenty years ago)

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Men wearing scarves indoors - classic or dud?