Untergang

I saw it a couple of months ago. It's interesting as a historical recreation, and definitely worth the watch, but ultimately it fails as a film, because even though it has (besides the Nazi leaders) sympathetic characters, they aren't fleshed out well enought to make viewer root for them. It felt like the makers wanted to make every detail right and introduce every historical figure that was there, and because of that forgot that a good movie should have a good story as well.

I've seen the trailer for it... it looks great anyway. I'll be going to it.

I thought this said "undertang". I'm not real sure what I thought that was going to be, though.

this is probably the best movie I have seen in the cinema for close to two, three years.

there are so many fantastic, thoughtful performances: schenke, mohnke, the generals, weidling (?), eva braun ("I hate blondi. sometimes I secretly kick him, and then adolf wonders about his behaviour") and bruno ganz's coursing & caring hitler.

which isn't to mention the casting: again goebbels, himmler, goering, traudl junge, and of course the man, the monster.

it's a difficult subject, expertly handled, all films of this nature, that seek to take on the myth & man of hitler, have to face the naturally-internal (irresolvable?) requirements of near-necessary demonisation and fair humanism. there has to be a certain "don't freeze the fan!" quality for this to be pulled off in any meaningful or helpful way of course, and it's handled superbly here, in direction (whatever that means) and performance (whatever that means.)

should be watched in conjunction with traudl junge & andre heller's "blind spot, hitler's secretary" for maximum effect.

“Within hours of Hitler’s suicde, General Hans Krebs set out to pay a visit to General Vasily Chuikov, the Soviet commander. He arrived shortly before 4am on 1 May 1945, taking Chuikov by surprise. With the Russian general were the writer Vsevolod Vishnevsky, the poet Evgeny Dolmatovsky and the compser Matvei Blanter. As Blanter didn’t have a uniform, he was made to hide in a cupboard and keep quiet. Krebs informed Chuikov that Hitler and his wife had killed themsleves in his bunker. Chuikov, who wasn’t even aware that there was a bunker under the Reich Chancellory or that Hitler was married, calmly said that he always knew. He wasn’t prepared to negotiate: it was unconditional surrender or nothing. A few hours into the meeting, which went on into the afternoon, Blanter tumbled noisily out of the closet, unconscious. He was lifted from the floor and carried into another room without a word of explanation to Krebs.”

... from Joachim Fest’s Inside Hitler’s Bunker: The Last Days of the Third Reich

sadly, doesn't feature in the film.

I wanted to see this and so did my dad

it was really good, rich, but I don't know how much you trust me.

in that case, I am at a complete loss

OK, I just read what you wrote

I still want to see it and maybe more

i gotta get around to seeing this!