New York Press' 50 Most Hated New Yorkers

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― Sara Sherr, Saturday, 2 April 2005 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Read this as "50's Most Hated New Yorkers."

― Matt Chesnut (Matt Chesnut), Saturday, 2 April 2005 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i read this. hey, see if you can make a drinking game out of the number of times the article picks on someone's weight!

― jody von oy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 2 April 2005 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I found this year's pretty weak. Although anyone who takes a swipe at Ultrgrrrl is alright in my book.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 2 April 2005 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Larry Tee: we had the pleasure of meeting him a while ago - he had no attitude and was completely charming. Unhateable.

― moley, Saturday, 2 April 2005 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Mr. Kim (...'s staff...) that loathsome?

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 2 April 2005 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

depends who you ask. i've heard horror stories about mr. kim but every time i've been into one of the kim's locations the staff has been nice (enough) to me. i tend to think that most of the people who feel intimidated by record/video clerks put themselves in the position of feeling that way.

― jody von oy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 2 April 2005 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i think that this year's swipes at mr. kim and his employees is what last year's swipes at strand bookstore clerks were. not to be a snob, but why the fuck should anyone feel intimitated by these people?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 2 April 2005 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

why feel intimidated by anyone who's not waving a knife in your face?

― jody von oy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 2 April 2005 02:54 (twenty-one years ago)

ha. ultragrrrl ranks higher than lohan.

hmm.

― KPH, Saturday, 2 April 2005 03:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Larry Tee: we had the pleasure of meeting him a while ago - he had no attitude and was completely charming. Unhateable.

But he's a hipster! A three-term-usage-in-one-paragraph-caliber one! Which makes you worse than Bill O'Reilly by a wide margin!

I am curious to see who would make a 50 Most Hated Minnesotans list. Norm Coleman would be at #1, and we could probably get some low-rank appearances from Sam Cassell, Tom Barnard and the Stassens of Pioneer Press thrice-weekly Bush-fawning letter-to-the-editor infamy.

― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Saturday, 2 April 2005 03:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The Watsons commercials girl would be on a Minnesotans list. So, arguably, would Al Franken.

But I bet #1 would be Mark Kennedy's mom.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 2 April 2005 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I have somehow been missing the Watsons girl. This is probably because I watch roughly 3 hours of TV a week (less when the Daily Show is in reruns).

(I have not, however, missed the ads for the furniture store I forget the name of that's done up like a thriller movie trailer parody; that one guy sing-songing "weeeeee've got a seeeeecreeet" never fails to crack me up.)

― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Saturday, 2 April 2005 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

'06 edition; a few are stupid (Toussaint, Piazza) but not many, esp our pair of toadying senators:

http://nypress.com/19/13/news&columns/loathsome.cfm

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 April 2006 18:55 (twenty years ago)

*GASP*

James Frey and Judy Miller in 'Most Hated' Shocker!

― gooblar (gooblar), Monday, 3 April 2006 21:00 (twenty years ago)

john sexton DOES deserve to be hated ... and kicked in the ass, i must confess!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 3 April 2006 21:07 (twenty years ago)

i'm not a fan of the ny press, but the 2006 edition seems a lot worse than past editions. it dispenses with the really withering critiques and acerbic, snarky wit of some of the entries in previous years. this one is just a punishing slog to get through. i can't even read it without falling asleep.

― geeta (geeta), Monday, 3 April 2006 21:12 (twenty years ago)

Agreed. I haven't read it in years, so I don't remember a lot of names, but it used to have good writers, columnists, etc. Clearly the point of doing a most-hated list is that it'll be funny, right? If it's just schadenfreude and dead-horse-beating it gets a bit painful.

― gooblar (gooblar), Monday, 3 April 2006 21:15 (twenty years ago)

I read this over lunch the other day, and the bulk of it seemed like a waste of ink -- a whole lot of torturous logic put into making people whose work one just doesn't care for seem somehow "loathesome." Apart from the realm of politics, where you have slightly more ground to call someone "loathsome" just for disagreeing with you, the others seem to be digging hard for anything to really blame the subjects for, and the best they can usually do is either schadenfreude or a kind of jealous basement bitchery (or really not "basement" bitchery but "why do I write for NY Press" bitchery). The J.S. Foer one is particularly bad, especially considering how many people who know him have told me he actually is kind of a jerk: they best they can do is three-quarters of a paragraph sneering about how he's really lucky and inordinately successful and has had a nice life? And then a closer that lets out the big "loathsome" punch: nobody liked your last book! Haha! And the best they can pin it on is a two-word sideways implication that the book "exploited" 9/11, an argument you'd think they could have spent the first half the paragraph explaining, given that no one ever really advances this contention except for people who think Foer is basically a Shirley Temple much-loved child and are groping for a reason to be mean about it (and even from that worldview, Shirley would just be naive, not exploitative). Worst still are the bits where they actually have to play dumb to justify inclusion -- wondering why oh why Lil Kim would lie to police about a shooting, and even implying that it was all about "cred," because yes, when one of your acquaintances shoots someone and you clam up with the police you're surely thinking more about credibility than your own actual ass. Right? Guys? Also yes, album sales are declining not because of downloading but because of the Strokes, who kids don't like. Sure thing. Probably the Killers too.

Anyway this thing basically ruined my lunch with its badness (particularly, as you probably sussed out, with regard to trying to include "arts" figures in the list), and so I roundly condemn it and place it on my list of 50 Most Ghastly Things I've Read this Week.

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 3 April 2006 21:17 (twenty years ago)

To be fair, the entire edit staff walked out after a flap about publishing the Mohammed cartoons some months ago. I haven't got a chance to give the new golks a good read yet, but I'm sure Siegal and co. took their hated files with them.

― scrimhaw1837 (son_of_scrimshaw), Monday, 3 April 2006 21:24 (twenty years ago)

A lot of the attempts at acid here are pretty sub-ILM even, like referring to NYU students as "a bunch of over-educated, privileged crybaby Felicity wannabes" (do NY Press writers not have college degrees, then?), or pulling self-satisfied "edgy" uses of titles like "hag" and/or "twat." Alex in NYC and a couple random-ILMer interns could have knocked this out in 20 minutes.

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 3 April 2006 21:28 (twenty years ago)

'a couple random-ILMer interns'

ILM has interns now?! dude! sign me up!

― geeta (geeta), Monday, 3 April 2006 21:58 (twenty years ago)

can i get you some coffee?

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 3 April 2006 22:09 (twenty years ago)

i would definitely read alex in nyc's "most loathsome" list.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 3 April 2006 22:38 (twenty years ago)

I skimmed awfully quickly, but can anyone diagram this sentence for me?:

When Taki was remanded to Pentonville Prison in the United Kingdom—where the arch-conservative was arrested for cocaine possession—he was a “Greek aristocrat,” he was giving his entire raison d’être: rank snobbery.

Also, is there a significance to the capitalization of some names but not others?

Thanks!

― Paul Eater (eater), Monday, 3 April 2006 22:45 (twenty years ago)

The blurb on Bruni from the '05 list is OTM. Worst food reviewer ever.

― Dan Floss (Dan Floss), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 00:13 (twenty years ago)

Something like "by claiming" after "possession" and the dash would probably sort that sentence out, Paul

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 08:20 (twenty years ago)

Alex in NYC and a couple random-ILMer interns could have knocked this out in 20 minutes.

I can't think of one published list of the past few years that couldn't be done (or indeed, hasn't been done) better on the Internets. Snark--the foundation of the NY Press "hated" list--translates especially better on the web. In fact, the whole charticle revolution and list mania seems like it was invented on and for the Internets, and somehow is reflected in print life; it's almost like the web has been around for so long that McPaper was the beneficiary instead of the inspiration.

― don weiner (don weiner), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 11:43 (twenty years ago)

not to mention the fact that the Press' list contains numerous occasions of unsubstantiated gossip presented as fact or outright lies.

― don weiner (don weiner), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 11:47 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

it's foldin', or being folded into something else

http://gothamist.com/2011/08/18/ny_press_folds.php

― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 August 2011 03:45 (fourteen years ago)

i guess they ran out of staff to hire and fire exactly one year later

― Mordy, Friday, 19 August 2011 03:51 (fourteen years ago)

last issue out and online

― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

i guess that means that dennis perrin can only rant in the kalamazoo gazette.

― Murdered plants communicate with a bowl of shrimps in another room! (Eisbaer), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

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