No, SERIOUSLY. The Pope is, um, dead.

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But we don't care, right?

― Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 2 April 2005 23:25 (twenty years ago)

not anymore.

― sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Saturday, 2 April 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

I'm more interested in knowing what brought the ILX server down all afternoon. But, um, yeah, RIP, pwntificated, etc.

― Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 2 April 2005 23:27 (twenty years ago)

That means; we're gonna get a new Pope!!

― Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Saturday, 2 April 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)

Anyone who says this is a tragedy needs one perspective.

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 3 April 2005 00:02 (twenty years ago)

Can someone start a blog reviewing every pope since St Peter and call it, erm, Popeular?

― Masked Gazza, Sunday, 3 April 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

So...odds on the next one?

― Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 3 April 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

http://untruenews.com/unimages/rosie.odonnell.jpg

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 3 April 2005 00:04 (twenty years ago)

Whoa, Christina Ricci at 40!

― Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 3 April 2005 00:06 (twenty years ago)

Surely not a tragedy, but an opportunity to grow wistful, should one be so inclined, as many of my devoutly Catholic relatives surely are. When one of the largest institutions on earth plays papal roulette, it is worth noticing, if only sidelong.

― Aimless (Aimless), Sunday, 3 April 2005 00:07 (twenty years ago)

our next Pope

http://www.isye.gatech.edu/~sman/mike/ireland/People/shane.jpg

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Sunday, 3 April 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)

Drunk! That's not the Shane McGowan *I* remember

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 3 April 2005 00:26 (twenty years ago)

Anyone who says this is a tragedy needs one perspective

Over a billion people have lost the man who has lead their church for a generation. Is that it? Let's think of something that affects TWO BILLION people, then we'll get some perspective.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Sunday, 3 April 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)

But he died of old age. Tragedy is when you're hit by a bus.

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 3 April 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

Tragedy: A disastrous event, especially one involving distressing loss or injury to life. An old, sick man dying is not tragic, just sad.

― Remy Ulysses Fitzgerald (x Jeremy), Sunday, 3 April 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)

A disastrous event, especially one involving distressing loss or injury to life.
A life has been lost, an important life in many people's eyes. Millions of people are distresssed.

An old, sick man
I was wondering what all the fuss was about. Here was me thinking he was a world figure.

Tragedy: Thinking it worthwhile to belittle the death of the Pope on an Internet message board.
Tragedy 2: Me bothering my fucking arse responding.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Sunday, 3 April 2005 00:55 (twenty years ago)

No. Tragedy is when I'm hit by a bus. When you are, it's comedy!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 3 April 2005 00:55 (twenty years ago)

The pope, the beloved leader billions of Catholics do not follow.

― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 3 April 2005 01:00 (twenty years ago)

Who has said this is a tragedy?

Can anyone name one person, news outlet, commentator who has called this a tragedy?

Responding to the use of a word seemingly used by noone to characterise this event is a touch silly.

The scale of the news coverage is however, proportional to the signifigance of the event. I'm not a catholic and detest his stances on abortion, contraception, homosexuality like so many others.

― Masked Gazza, Sunday, 3 April 2005 01:01 (twenty years ago)

It may well be a tragedy for the Catholic church, depending on who his successor is and how he approaches such issues.
A lack of congregation and clergy in the developed world might need to be addressed at some point as well (though it's fair to say without the first you don't really have much use for the second).

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Sunday, 3 April 2005 01:07 (twenty years ago)

It may well be a tragedy for the Catholic church, depending on who his successor is and how he approaches such issues

I wonder if people have said this every time a pope has croaked the last couple of thousand years.

― Masked Gazza, Sunday, 3 April 2005 01:10 (twenty years ago)

It's not a tragedy. An old sick man who must have been in a lot of pain is no longer in pain. I felt bad for him while he was alive, because even if his Church's actions are responsible for a lot of suffering, I don't think he should have to suffer himself.

― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 3 April 2005 01:14 (twenty years ago)

It's probably a tragedy to that Polish 'life companion' of his

― Beth, Sunday, 3 April 2005 01:16 (twenty years ago)

"Tragedy is when you're hit by a bus.
No. Tragedy is when I'm hit by a bus. When you are, it's comedy!"

No! Tragedy is a literary style where the main character suffers and is ruined.

― A Nairn (moretap), Sunday, 3 April 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I think you'll find that tragedy is when the feeling's gone and you can't go on.

― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 3 April 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)

I wonder if people have said this every time a pope has croaked the last couple of thousand years.
You're probably right but for most of the last couple of thousand years there's been a new one in place before most of the church members even had a clue the old one was dead. This next one will be under the glare of the media spotlight (fucking hell I'm typing in fluent Cliche!) - JP2 was a media savvy Pope, he knew how to work with and against the media. He travelled to pretty much every country where people knew how to do "spectacles testicles wallet watch". He published tons of books, CDs and DVDs. The Vatican even has a website where you can read all sorts of interesting stuff.

There's a fair chance his successor will shy away from the media. I don't know where that will leave the church in a world where how you are reported has such huge significance.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Sunday, 3 April 2005 01:29 (twenty years ago)

Tragedy 2: Me bothering my fucking arse responding.

"getting all worked up" would also be acceptable

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 3 April 2005 01:49 (twenty years ago)

Whoa, Christina Ricci at 40!

-- Girolamo Savonarola (gsa...), April 3rd, 2005.

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/coverv/75/146175.jpg

― latebloomer: AKA Sir Teddy Ruxpin, Former Scientologist (latebloomer), Sunday, 3 April 2005 06:25 (twenty years ago)

A lack of congregation and clergy in the developed world might need to be addressed at some point as well (though it's fair to say without the first you don't really have much use for the second).

what? here in nyc, which i gotta guess might be the developed world, there's a lotta catholics. but i guess since europe's catholic congregation is supposedly on the wane, we must not count.

― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 3 April 2005 06:30 (twenty years ago)

That means; we're gonna get a new Pope!!
-- Bobby Peru (per...), April 3rd, 2005 12:59 AM. (Bobby Peru) (later)

are they going to flush the old pope down the toilet?

― ken c (ken c), Sunday, 3 April 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

I'm more interested in knowing what brought the ILX server down all afternoon.

The Pope's ghost, obv.

― caitlin (caitlin), Sunday, 3 April 2005 09:12 (twenty years ago)

what? here in nyc, which i gotta guess might be the developed world, there's a lotta catholics. but i guess since europe's catholic congregation is supposedly on the wane, we must not count.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/rel_rate.htm

This article states that post 9/11, New York is bucking the national trend, but things like "The Institute's 1998 study involved almost 166,000 people. They found that church attendance was in decline in 15 of 19 industrialized democracies" seem to support my claim. The average age of priests has been rising for decades thanks to a combination of higher life expectancy and low recruitment levels. More than half of France's priests are expected to die or retire in the next 10 years. Addressing such issues must surely to be high on the agenda for the next pope (if one were cynical enough one could point to where most of the collection plate money comes from - a church without members in the developed world is a poor church).

I like how so many people apparently lie about going to church.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Sunday, 3 April 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)

Reports of the Pope's death have been greatly exaggerated.

― the pinefox, Sunday, 3 April 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)

I like the fact that, whilst convention dictates that a man has to be a cardinal to become Pope, in theory any Catholic adult male could be chosen. Leading to me imagining various mates in the rôle, and giggling.

― MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 3 April 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)

I like how so many people apparently lie about going to church.

yeah but on ash wednesday you can tell who's telling the truth!

― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 3 April 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)

(very xpost)

You know I didn't even know about that movie until you posted that. Awesome!

― Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 3 April 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

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