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the best show in the history of shows

― le tigre, Monday, 4 April 2005 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Aqua Teen Hunger Force has no letter l.
Family guy does though.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 4 April 2005 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

"The Simpsons" also has no "l", but "Arrested Development" does.

― sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 4 April 2005 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

so all the overrated shows have "L"!

― latebloomer: strawman knockdowner (latebloomer), Monday, 4 April 2005 03:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"stop the menace"

― le tigre, Monday, 4 April 2005 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Trailer Park Boys being the exception to prove the rule?

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 4 April 2005 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Happy Days has no letter "l" but Mama's Family does.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 4 April 2005 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)

gilligan's island has three Ls and is therefore three times as good as the L word

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 4 April 2005 05:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Tying it with All In The Family.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 4 April 2005 06:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm bored with lesbians. I ever turned over Fingersmith 15 minutes in to watch Midsomer Muders. I mean, the chick with the Strokes hair was pretty hot, but other than that it was Melrose Place without Pool Boys. Blah.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Monday, 4 April 2005 07:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, + lesbians...

― scout (scout), Monday, 4 April 2005 07:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Lesbians annoy me. Not real lesbians - fair play to them. Just TV lesbians and rock lesbians. It's like they know me SOOO well, that just by getting hot girlz and lezzing them up they can make me like a programme/dig the music/buy their product. The problem is that it works, and it's a cynical manipulation of my labido, and I hate it.

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Monday, 4 April 2005 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate it, for the same reasons! No, wait, the opposite reasons!

No, wait, when it's HOTT BOY SLASH ACTION (see Teh Libertines) it doesn't annoy me at all, in fact it is HOTTTTTT!!!

Wait, I am so confused.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Monday, 4 April 2005 09:56 (twenty-one years ago)

-- Johnney B (john.barlo...), April 4th, 2005.

otm

― latebloomer: strawman knockdowner (latebloomer), Monday, 4 April 2005 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)

This chick on the right makes me feel kinda funny. I think that might be cause she kind of looks like my ex.

http://www.eyecandyforthebrokenhearted.com/lword.jpg

― kate/thank you friendly cloud (papa november), Monday, 4 April 2005 10:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, that's the chick with the Strokes hair. Me and my (female hetero) mate both had the major clit-on for her. Embarrassed and ashamed! It is not her, it is her indierock hair.

She's the girl that "boys who look like a girl" always look like.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Monday, 4 April 2005 10:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeh, I approve of the one of the right. Floppy indie hair always looks good - I'm not sure how boyish she looks, mind.

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Monday, 4 April 2005 10:12 (twenty-one years ago)

It's Mick Jaggerette.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 4 April 2005 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)

THAT'S SHANE, SHE RULES

― shane rules (AaronHz), Monday, 4 April 2005 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

There is no L is Designer Guys:
http://www.calgarysun.com/htdocs/photos/82299.jpg

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 4 April 2005 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)

it's more than just the hair, shane is hot all over. Her hair is even shorter this season.

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 4 April 2005 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

She has a swagger. I am powerless against anyone who uses it.

― kate/thank you friendly cloud (papa november), Monday, 4 April 2005 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.sho.com/site/lword/season2/images/shane_pic.jpg

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 4 April 2005 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG DID YOU GUYS SEE THIS EPISODE YET???

http://www.sho.com/site/lword/season2/photos/206a.jpg

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 4 April 2005 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't like the new hair. It's not indierock enough.

Wait, x-post... OK, she's turned into Courtney Taylor-Taylor. EEEUUUUWWWWWW, clit-on over.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Monday, 4 April 2005 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Oooh no, short hair not quite so good - it makes her look like an old woman trying to look younger, as opposed to her looking like a young woman.

P.S. I've never seen this show before, so any judgements I make are purely superficial.

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Monday, 4 April 2005 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Superficial is what this show is all about, so your judgements are spot on regardless.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Monday, 4 April 2005 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Episode 206: What Can Brown Do For You?

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 4 April 2005 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 4 April 2005 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I am so ashamed that I have never seen a single episode of this show. I can't afford HB0. And shane is totally hot. Her short hair is so much better than that twerpy cut she had before.

― worse lesbo ever (Jeanne Fury), Monday, 4 April 2005 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

it's on showtime!

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 4 April 2005 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck this show and fuck anyone who likes it

― absolutego (ex machina), Monday, 4 April 2005 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't afford showtime either. Booo.

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Monday, 4 April 2005 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

(I used to go over to a friend's house to watch it after rehearsal. That is so shameful.)

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Monday, 4 April 2005 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

jeanne i will finangle an invite for you to my girl's l-word party

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Monday, 4 April 2005 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

my favourite us shows are monk and father dowling investigates.

― scg, Monday, 4 April 2005 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Jenny looks better now with short hair.

― jenny looks better and is acting like less of a flakey wimp, as if her haircut h, Monday, 4 April 2005 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

she fucks like a manatee

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Monday, 4 April 2005 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

sister stephanie would give that lezza bitch bare right hooks.

― scg, Monday, 4 April 2005 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

No, wait, when it's HOTT BOY SLASH ACTION (see Teh Libertines) it doesn't annoy me at all, in fact it is HOTTTTTT!!!

The mainstream media has not (yet) exploited boy-on-boy action [1] to the degree it uses girl-on-girl fantasy. Men: You have been conditioned, in the best Pavlovian manner, to drool at the idea of lesbianism.

[1] Although the Lord of the Rings movies and Smallville are clearly pointing in this direction.

― j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 4 April 2005 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Who conidioned us?

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 4 April 2005 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

It uses it in music, it does not use it in television, unfortunately. :-(

Ironic, considering what a *market* there is for this, considering by the bulk of TV fan fict.

Though I suppose lesbianism is seen as something "slightly naughty" and spicy, but not really challenging. A woman will sit through a lesbian scene and roll her eyes. How would a straight man react to a boyslash scene? (And I'm not talking about overtly gay-pitched programmes like Queer As Folk, etc.)

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Monday, 4 April 2005 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess we'll find out when that gay western comes out. (Later this year?)

― Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (Rock Hardy), Monday, 4 April 2005 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone watching this just for sex scenes must be pretty bored. I like how Melrose Placey it's gotten this season. That creepy hidden camera roommate guy of Shane and Jenny's, the creepy Wake Up, I'm Fat lady's creepy movie producer that's quasi-chickenhawking Shane, Tina's creepy lawyer that tried to fuck her and Tina's creepy rich bitch lover, etc. Dana finally breaking up with her creepy fiancee and finding out she was cheating on her with Melissa Rivers (ew! haha). This is the best soap opera shit I ever saw.

Speaking of hidden camera roommate guy, I like how every male character gets shitcanned/vilified by way of exhibiting extreme assholism within a few episodes. Like the marine biologist manatee guy who looked like Conor Oberst.

― @@r0n h. z@nd3r$ (AaronHz), Monday, 4 April 2005 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

We are talking SLOW MOTION caresses.
http://www.calgarysun.com/htdocs/photos/82299.jpg

And 'What do you mean latent homosexual tendencies?'
http://www.cbc.ca/television/images/behindthescenes/finkleman_down_reverse.jpg

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 4 April 2005 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, what gay western that comes out (heh) later this year?

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Monday, 4 April 2005 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.disaster-area.org/weis/manheimbook.jpg

x-post to drew: the title has to be something like Buck Naked and the Bare Bottom Boys.

― @@r0n h. z@nd3r$ (AaronHz), Monday, 4 April 2005 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, what gay western that comes out (heh) later this year?

Brokeback Mountain, now scheduled to be released in December 2005. No indications yet as to whether the film feature the eating of pudding.

― j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 4 April 2005 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

feature the eating of pudding.

This is a euphemism, right?

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 06:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't seen the show, but I can't get OVER how much THIS girl looks like my college girlfriend all grown up. Damned eerie!

― Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 06:31 (twenty-one years ago)

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Hatred of new theme song thirded. That's that band Bettie that was on one of the episodes this season, and they stink. Even that fucking Murmurs song would be better.
Thing is, the closing music is always awesome and perfect for what is happening and something almost always already in my record collection. Leonard Cohen, Nick Cave, Lucinda Williams....Iron and Wine "Naked As We Came" when Shane cut Jenny's hair! My mouth fell open when the song started.

― @@r0n h. z@nd3r$ (AaronHz), Friday, 8 April 2005 05:23 (twenty-one years ago)

That's funny, if I think about it I find them to be significantly less so IRL. That's a really fucking stupid thing to think about though, and makes all kinds of assumptions that shouldn't be made.

― @@r0n h. z@nd3r$ (AaronHz), Friday, 8 April 2005 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's the deal with the Bettie shit. The show's creator broke up with her gf and started dating one of the chicks in Bettie. All the Bettie shit in the new season is a direct result of this. How annoying and assinine -- "oooh, I want to put my new gf in all my episodes!" The band is terrible.

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Their PR team sucks. Last year I was desperate to cover something and got the L Word lead and without even knowing what it was, called the PR ppl and I swear these fools were so disorganized it was like talking to primitive voice recognition software, people would patch me through to someone whose name didn't exist upon the next person to next person to whatever. I'd fuck Mia Kirshner tip top but I still don't plan to watch the show.

― LeCoq (LeCoq), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

lecoq, you know what i love about you? you've got class!

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh shit Striggla I'll email you this wkend, i"m even WRITING IT DOWN ON A NOTE this time. Last day of classes for me today! FUGGYEAH bb in a few hours.

― LeCoq (LeCoq), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

nine months pass...

season premiere was last night.

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 9 January 2006 15:45 (twenty years ago)

I can't wait for season deuce to come out on DVD!

― öROXYMUZAKö (roxymuzak), Monday, 9 January 2006 21:24 (twenty years ago)

I really want to see this show.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Monday, 9 January 2006 21:25 (twenty years ago)

I've only seen the 2nd seas. but Shane reminds me an OBSCENE amount of a guy I know from New York. It's like they modeled her whole schtick on this guy -- haircut, swagger, toothy grin, dress sense, all. Of course I think she's scorching.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 9 January 2006 21:31 (twenty years ago)

I wanna see Jenny with short hair. :(

xpost Shane is hotter than a thousand suns.

― öROXYMUZAKö (roxymuzak), Monday, 9 January 2006 21:32 (twenty years ago)

Her hair is worse this season, though. And I thought Alice's seeming transformation into a full-on nutcase was annoying and unbelievable.

― nickn (nickn), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 09:41 (twenty years ago)

yeah, and Jenny continues to annoy. But I will continue to watch it anyway.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 13:45 (twenty years ago)

Jenny needs to grow the hell up.

― öROXYMUZAKö (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 15:01 (twenty years ago)

how did i miss this thread?

i am completely fucking addicted to this show. i completely fucking love it! and i completely fucking hate it! we're on season two in nz, i'm relieved its getting better. like the characters actually have personalities now! except shane. i'm sorry but i don't get the shane thing, she bugs the fuck out of me. yeah yeah she's hot, i can't deny this, but her butchness is so forced, its like, god, can't you just BE butch instead of trying oh so hard to act it? what i don't get about her character is how all the girls she pulls think she's so fucking great. and its like but c'mon she is a hairdresser!!! and she never does or says anything remotely interesting that'd make me come back for more. all style (and yes what a style it is) but no substance. for this reason i am LOVING camryn manheim's character, finally someone in the show whose whole purpose is to be a bitch to shane. that gives me a bigger boner than shane herself.

yes the betty theme has to go, this is agreed. but season one's fetusmusic theme was equally appalling, in its own special way.

and everyone on that fucking show needs to eat a tonne of something. anything! dear god, how can i find these women sexy when they ALL look like they would break the fuck apart at the mere sight of a vibrator??? fuck man, i don't have anything against skinny women, but do ALL of them (bar pam grier) have to be that skinny? yeah yeah i know, tv industry standards of acceptable femininity etc. and i totally feel EVERYONE'S jenny hatred. die you whinging crying self-pitying little wannabe pixie. your writing makes carrie bradshaw look like a genius.

fuck now what do i like about this show? well um its the only show on tv about lesbians. and over the months that i've made myself watch this shit for the sole fact that it is about lesbians, i have developed a fondness for some of the characters, particularly dana. i'm really bummed that kit's transgender friend is no longer on the show, now there was a storyline with potential.

― awesome is as awesome does (lucylurex), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 08:18 (twenty years ago)

di otm many times.

except about the shane thing. ;)

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 11:39 (twenty years ago)

i don't think shane would get on my tits so much if she weren't hot.

― awesome is as awesome does (lucylurex), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:38 (twenty years ago)

Shane should be a mechanic. (Note: I have seen a total of two episodes.)

― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:54 (twenty years ago)

OTM

― awesome is as awesome does (lucylurex), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:59 (twenty years ago)

in the most recent episode, she plays straight for her new girlfriend's family, who dress her up for a family party in a dress! and heels! and HAIR EXTENSIONS!

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 23:41 (twenty years ago)

Trying not to read above. 4 eps in and I am really enjoying it.

― Serge Protecteur (nordicskilla), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:08 (twenty years ago)

caught this for the first time last night. projected on a big screen in a back room at a gay/"L"word piano bar no less. it cracked me up. that dialogue! so awful. like, if it was written down on-line it would have a bunch of hyperlinks to cliche'd gay stuff. ugh. is the shallowness thing intentional? don't get.

― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 19:12 (twenty years ago)

The pilot sucked. I'm not sure how much more of my life I'll waste watching this.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 19:30 (twenty years ago)

how much have you wasted watching Carnivale?

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 22:45 (twenty years ago)

Haha 12 hours so far.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 22:53 (twenty years ago)

oh i remember when they used to talk about stuff like "bush confidence" and "nipple confidence". it used to drive me fucking nuts. but then i enjoy being angry.

― awesome is as awesome does (lucylurex), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 00:31 (twenty years ago)

Dana Delaney got OLD. :(

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 04:36 (twenty years ago)

is the shallowness thing intentional?

haha!

― Big Tits Erotic Restaurant (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 16:23 (twenty years ago)

hahahaha nosferatu!

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 6 February 2006 15:55 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

We just started the second series. I love the new DJ girl but WHY WHY WHY the awful new theme music???

― Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Sunday, 5 March 2006 21:54 (twenty years ago)

jeanne explains all above. I thought the horrid band had left for the 3rd season but NO they were back last week.

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 6 March 2006 13:18 (twenty years ago)

i'm really bummed that kit's transgender friend is no longer on the show, now there was a storyline with potential.

OTM. Ivan was great! And no more Marina?

AND they have to have this HORRIBLE new filmmaker guy now.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060214/en_nm/littleton_dc

― PAUL HAGGIS, EMOTIONAL TERRORIST (nordicskilla), Monday, 6 March 2006 16:05 (twenty years ago)

ten months pass...

Season 4 starts tonight. They are adding a bunch of new characters to make up for dead Dana and one of them is... Cybill Shepherd.

Fear.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 8 January 2007 00:36 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

it seems like this season wasn't publicized at all, I haven't seen any ads for it. I would have missed it if not for ilx/tivo! So far I really like the acting, although the plots are more soap-opera-y than ever.

what happened to helena's kids?

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

The Cybill and "Papi" characters are corny. I can't imagine the Marlee Matlin one will be much better. It all feels fairly shark jumpy to me (they've introduced a CUTE KID for Shane to take care of, FFS) but there have been a few good bits. We shall see.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 00:07 (nineteen years ago)

And what was up with "LOL STRAIGHT PEOPLE DONT KNOW WHO KATHLEEN HANNA IS, WHO THE FUCK IS TERRELL OWENS?", lame.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 00:11 (nineteen years ago)

otm all around. I fear how bad this show would actually have to be to mak me stop watching though. :(

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 00:51 (nineteen years ago)

here's my answer: ROSIE O'DONNELL

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

:-( please don't tell me season 4 is going down the toilet - season 3 was surprisingly good. it was like the writers had discovered queer!

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 00:59 (nineteen years ago)

It's pretty rough. Jenny is obsessing over how to get revenge on DAWN WEINER FROM WELCOME TO THE DOLLHOUSE because she gave her shitty book a bad review in some lesbian hipster mag. Phase 1: Throw temper tantrum in magazine's office Phase 2: Scream her name at her window in the middle of the night in full on black and white Streetcar homage. Phase 3: Get Max to cyber stalk the Dawn Weiner's gf so she can track her down and seduce her. Jenny is such a fucking baby it's not even cute anymore.

I am kind of looking forward to Max telling new gf (and boss' daughter) "BTW I HAVE NO PENIS" next week, though.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 01:09 (nineteen years ago)

Good lord. I think I liked her better when she was writing about the woman who could talk to MANATEES.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 01:19 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGnQul5LRSk

― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 03:15 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

okay i love season 4. its so silly! jenny is outrageously awful, she's practically comic relief now. my favourite part in the whole of season 4? when she and alice are arguing over "les girls", and alice verbally kicks her ass with "[french artist] says don't fucking compare yourself to me!"

bette is fucking hot. i'd let her control-freak on me any time.

― lurex, Thursday, 17 May 2007 04:40 (eighteen years ago)

yeah i did end up liking S4 after the first few eps. I liked Marlee Matlin more than the other new characters, so that helped.

― marmotwolof, Thursday, 17 May 2007 06:35 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

I'm playing catch-up, but... My tribute to Shane:

http://blogs.citypages.com/pscholtes/2009/02/i_want_to_be_sh.php

― Pete Scholtes, Monday, 16 February 2009 23:59 (seventeen years ago)

Just mostway through Season 3, but the trans character Moira/Max is another great character. Great voice, great way of carrying himself/herself. The end of the episode "Lobsters" was some kind of peak.

So why is Shane receding? Argh...

― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 15:54 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

I guess tonight's the end? Still don't have Showtime. But we watched through Season 5. I liked the return to more humor, but man, some clumsy plotting choices in Seasons 4 and 5, and I feel like they lost track of Shane's character in 5, which feels like a general low point. The season began with the first out-and-out dud of an episode, and did away with the opening/teaser conceit of the previous four seasons. I didn't quite buy Kit's violent breakdown, or find the women-in-prison jokes funny, or enjoy watching the first season re-dramatized again as a bad Hollywood movie. But it can still be so good. And then there's Max, who has made the show worthwhile even is he's on the margins.

― Pete Scholtes, Sunday, 8 March 2009 22:22 (seventeen years ago)

eight months pass...

After a wildly uneven Season 5, Season 6 began with some nice twists and hotness, but went rapidly downhill with what felt like a bunch of amateur guest directors making one ill-advised choice after another, the tone going utterly haywire--the worst moments being the "comedic" music. The second-to-last episode seemed to have a real director, and showed how good the show could be. The last episode was just crazy-bad, like anger-inducing bad. What a cheat!

― Pete Scholtes, Sunday, 6 December 2009 00:46 (sixteen years ago)

Oh this can't still be going, surely

― The reverse TARDIS of pasta (Niles Caulder), Sunday, 6 December 2009 07:36 (sixteen years ago)

DVDs on four movies/four days/$5 rental at Nicollet Village Video. You people with your fancy cable.

― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 18:39 (sixteen years ago)

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