Michigan, My Michigan

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This is the thread where Michiganders stand, be recognized, and recognize each other. Oh and talk about our beautiful home state, too.

I'm from Houghton, but I did some time in East Lansing too. Where's everyone else from? Ever get up to the U.P. much?

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

http://www.selonen.org/arto/tour-usa/images/eoeh.jpg

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

who in this bitch is from Michigan

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

(that's an ILM thread, so I don't totally consider this a duplicate, I only mention it because it was recently revived and I posted there what I would've otherwise posted here!)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I searched but it made my shitbox work computer freeze up. So I took a chance.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

Basically: I spent four years going to school in Kalamazoo (1996-2000). Went to Detroit a couple of times for shows, to visit friends, etc., and to Grand Rapids a few times, too, but other than that didn't really explore the state much. Never been to Lansing. Never been to the U.P. (although my band might be playing a show in Marquette soon, since that's where our new guitarist is from).

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

Really? Wonder if I know him, I've got a bunch of friends in the MQT music scene. Pretty tight-knit bunch up there...

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

I grew up in Carson City. College in Kalamazoo. Have been to the UP.

kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

I grew up in Grand Rapids. All my direct family are still there!

marianna, Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm, well, he hasn't lived there in 10 years ... his name is B3n Imdi3ke.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

i'm not, but my girlfriend is - from a little town in the UP near the WI border. I was there with her over christmas and it was awesome. We had to take a little 20-passenger plane from Rhinelander, WI to the small town airport near her family's area. It was all snowy and it felt like I was on an expedition to the north pole. beautiful landscape.

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

jaymc - Don't recognize the name, but I may mention it to my friends from up there. They book almost all the shows 'round town that don't have to do with the college. Great people. Let me know if you're heading up there and I'll put you in touch.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, if what I'm saying sounds weird... it kinda is. Everyone knows just about everyone up there, seriously. Maybe this should have been a U.P. thread.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

I grew up in Carson City

That's where we had our first family reunion. My grandparents used to live there.

I grew up in Saginaw and lived there for 20 years.

laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

I'll make a t-shirt:
I lost my virginity
in BIG RAPIDS, MI

nabiscothingy (nabisco), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

No, not weird at all, Dan. Thanks for the offer!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

born in kalamazoo, lived in bangor for 3 years, paw paw for um, about 10, schoolcraft/texas corners for the remainder of high school (call all that 'kalamazoo' for non michiganders), then a2 for college.

and jaymc, from the other thread, i think kzoo is now 269. but i forget half the time i call my parents.

colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

I lived in Slt. St. Marie (U.P.) for a year when I was 6. It was probably the nicest area landscape-wise of my many childhood homes.

nickn (nickn), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

Boy has been in MI for the last 2 years. I've been to St Ignace and Sault Ste Marie now- I wanted to go up & watch the ships go through the locks, which was just as cool as I was hoping it would be.

Mackinac Bridge: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wck/5125865/

lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 02:53 (twenty years ago)

yeah, 269 sounds about right. i hardly know anyone there anymore.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

I went to Ann Arbor last weekend, my b/f is from Michigan. I am a fan of Michigan, especially whatever that Indian place was called.

Holly (an appletross), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 04:03 (twenty years ago)

born & raised on the NE suburbs of Flint.
went to U of M.
lived in Ann Arbor for 10 years.
Finally escaped to Portland in September, 2004.

I ain't goin' back.

kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 04:04 (twenty years ago)

Grew up in East Lansing. Worked at Curious Book Shop for many years, for those of you who know it--still going strong on Grand River! Went to high school in Okemos (Okemos school district, East Lansing housing district). My mom was the head librarian in Haslett for a long time, and my dad still teaches plant physiology and microbiology at MSU.

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 05:50 (twenty years ago)

Also, the Tahquamenon Falls, largest in Michigan.

http://www.purplebutterflies.com/michigan/images/upfalls2.jpg

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 06:06 (twenty years ago)

The Pasty Cam, a daily visual journal in Michigan's Upper Peninsula.

BTW, that's "pasty" as in Cornish meat pie, not one of those things strippers put on their nipples.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

I lived in Ann Arbor from third grade through ninth grade. Attended Abbott Elementary, Forsythe Middle School, Pioneer High School. Applied for my first job at Zingerman's Deli, was rejected. Have been to the UP. I went to my first show (The Smithereens and Paul K. and the Weathermen) at the Power Center. Saw the Cure and Shellyan Orphan at The Palace at Auburn Hills. Saw the Primitives and The Sugarcubes at the Latin Quarter in Detroit. Never rode on the People Mover although remember when it was built. I have walked through the world's largest engine at Autoworld in glorious Flint, MI. Spent nights falling asleep listening to the Electrifying Mojo and Canada's Brave New Waves (became a Momus fan because of the latter...). I haven't been back more than a handful of times since leaving in '90.

ianinportland (ianinportland), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

From Calumet (in the UP)
went to U of M
lived near Detroit for 4 years after that
Now in NYC

Bnad, Wednesday, 6 April 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

I lived in Calumet for a bit when I was 2. Right by Fraki's.

Kind of suprised at the Yoopers on ILE. I thought I knew them all.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

xpost
lawrence . . . who are your grandparents? i wonder if i knew them.
did you have your reunion in the park with the dam? seems like that's the only place to do family reunions in carson city. i'm amazed that anyone has ever heard of it!

kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

What I remember is a park alongside a river. There may have been a dam, I don't remember.

My grandfathers name- H4rden. I think my grandmothers name- Gr4ce.

They moved out of Carson City in the 20's or 30's.

laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

Also, I heard tell of a city called Perrington. Is that nearby?

laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

born in detroit, lived there first four or so years of my life
(moved to pennsylvania, then ohio, then back to michigan c. 4th grade)
lived in farmington hills and west bloomfield; graduated WBHS.
went to university of detroit one year (freshman year of college)
(transfered to u of missouri, went into army in germany and kentucky)
back to michigan for a few more years: ypsilanti, then livonia

moved to pennsylvania then new york; have not lived in michigan since 1988 or so, but almost all my relatives live there, so I go back pretty often. it's where i tell people i come from when they ask.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 6 April 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

Was born in upstate New York, but my parents moved to Michigan when I was 1. Tecumseh, for about the first 8 years, then just up M-52 to Adrian for the next 8 or so. Went to Adrian High School. Small town, but hey, it was the county seat! And we played in the same Division A athletic league as the two Ann Arbors Pioneer and Huron, Ypsilanti, and Romulus. I got to see Terry Mills play in my high school gym when he was at Romulus. Went to Chicago for school in 1990 and have been here ever since. Still go back to the M a few times each fall to attend Lions games with my brother, with whom I have season tickets (he still lives in Ann Arbor.)

from Pioneeran ianinportland's post--

I went to my first show (The Smithereens and Paul K. and the Weathermen) at the Power Center.

ha! dude I was at this show too! not my first one though (that was Rush at Joe Louis Arena.) I don't remember much about it. I know they encored with "Iron Man", I remember that. I had no idea Paul K was the opener! I wouldn't have known who he was at the time, although I do like some of his stuff now. Heck, my friend and I probably didn't even see them anyway, probably drinking in the car or something. Dude, did you go to INXS or Echo and the Bunnyman at Hill Auditorium?? Jesus and Mary Chain at the Latin Quarter? Love and Rockets/Pixies at the Fox Theatre??

Spent nights falling asleep listening to the Electrifying Mojo and Canada's Brave New Waves

ayup. Don't forget David Wisdom's wonderful Nightlines. And that dude Mike Halloran who did the Sunday night alternative show "Radios in MOtion" on WLLZ. First place I ever heard Faster Pussycat AND Guns N Roses (track was "Mr. Brownstone"), and this was their 'alternative' show.

I can't imagine how boring my life would have been without Mojo, Wisdom, and Halloran...

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)

my brother went to school in houghton at michigan tech.
i liked the latin quarter, too bad it burned down, saw ride and lush there. i liked driving home down woodward and not stopping for any of the red lights.

keith m (keithmcl), Thursday, 7 April 2005 01:08 (twenty years ago)

I miss living in Michigan a lot - although if I went back I'd probably miss it less.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 7 April 2005 02:45 (twenty years ago)

Michigan Tech?
http://keithkris.com/houghton/brickdick.jpg

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Thursday, 7 April 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

Oof! I think I've been in that building (debate tournament in HS).

Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 7 April 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)

oh I forgot to mention that I've said yup to da UP --- Mackinac Island, of course.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 7 April 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

Who in this bitch has been to Frankenmuth?

Who in this bitch went to AutoWorld?? I WAS THERE>

Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 7 April 2005 02:59 (twenty years ago)

i went to frankenmuth as a kid with grandma and grandpa (from milan), and remembered the kitch fondly. one nice day while i was still living in ann arbor, my friend brock and i were trying to figure out what to do. i suggested going to frankenmuth. so we did. we enjoyed cruising the main street with rap blaring out the windows (felt so high school). i think we even ate at zendhers or whatever it's called. i was sad they didn't have chocolate mousse ice cream, which they used to sell at the e&h grocery in paw paw.

great day out.

colette (a2lette), Thursday, 7 April 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah, and i think i've only been over the bridge a little, to get pasties before going to mackinac island. is mackinac island fun for grownups? it was great as a kid...

colette (a2lette), Thursday, 7 April 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

When I visit the parents in Saginaw we still go to Frankenmuth to see the Christmas decorations. They have a nifty brew pub there now.

About ten years ago my whole family got together and we went "up north". T-shirts were even printed with the slogan "Fudgies on the Lake". gotta love that fudge.

laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 7 April 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

Went to U of M in Ann Arbor 1976-1980. (Born and raised in Ohio). My brother lives in Flushing (outside Flint), so I visit every couple years. Went back to Ann Arbor for the first time in decades last summer, lots of new buildings and fewer hippies but it still felt sort of the same. My eldest niece now attends MSU in East Lansing.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Thursday, 7 April 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

Every time I try to get out, MI pulls me back in. I graduated from college here and moved back to my hometown of Chicago, only to get a job in Ann Arbor seven years later. So now I work in AA and live in Royal Oak (near 11 mile to those counting up from Em's 8 mile name-check.)Ah who am I kidding? Everyone knows I moved back here for better access to Anybody Killa and Blaze Ya Dead Homie bootlegs. Psychopathic!

JTL

Johnny Loftus (frontier), Thursday, 7 April 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

Stormy - My greatest memory of that Smithereens show was at one point a remote control car was driven out onto the stage so Pat Dinizio could pluck a lit cigarette from the antenna. I don't remember Iron Man but I think they played a cover of Rain by the Beatles... I WAS at that Pixies/Love and Rockets show. Do you remember much about the Pixies set? Just recently I was talking about that show with a friend that went with me and his memory was that Black Francis kept getting shocked by the microphone so frequently that after only a handful of songs he stormed off in a huff. I have no memory of a short, huffy set, do you? In terms of radio, I still have cassette recordings of certain radios in motion shows! I'll have to dust those off sometime and jam out to some screamin' blue messiahs or whatever else they were championing at the time... Those tapes are gold simply for the commercials.

And just in case anyone else was at some of these shows, here's the list of the shows that I went to while in Michigan:
Smithereens/Paul K and the Weathermen - Power Center
Violent Femmes - Hill Auditorium
The Cure/Shellyan Orphan - Palace at Auburn Hills
Depeche Mode/Nitzer Ebb - Pine Knob
New Order/Sugarcubes/PIL - Pine Knob
Primitives/Suguarcbes - Latin Quarter
Red Hot Chili Peppers/Raging Slab - Michigan Theater
Various local bands around town - Map of the World at the Michigan Union, Frank Allison and the Odd Sox at various locations, etc.

ianinportland (ianinportland), Thursday, 7 April 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

Oh, one more funny music related memory. I wasn't old enough to have gone to the show but my brother bought me a shirt when Depeche Mode came through on their music for the masses tour. I used to wear the shirt to school in 7th grade and get teased mightily because no one had ever heard of them at the time. My favorite diss came from this kid named Pete who noticed the long list of cities that they had played in on the tour on the back of the shirt and said, "Oh God, How good can they be if they've played in Milan!". Of course he was making the simple mistake that the shirt was referring to Milan, MI (pronounced My-Lan) not Mih-lahn where they actually played. BTW, I would have paid good money to see Depeche Mode playing in Milan, MI...

ianinportland (ianinportland), Thursday, 7 April 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

The Cure/Shellyan Orphan - Palace at Auburn Hills
Depeche Mode/Nitzer Ebb - Pine Knob
New Order/Sugarcubes/PIL - Pine Knob
Primitives/Suguarcbes - Latin Quarter


I was at all four of these.

Leon WK (Ex Leon), Thursday, 7 April 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

ah, my first concert was the Pysch Furs and their Forever Now tour at the Fox (I think it was the Fox). Saw Talking Heads at Pine Knob for their Burning Down the House tour. Saw Simple Minds for their Sparkle in the Rain tour (at the Fox?).

Saw Billy Bragg open up for Echo and the Bunnymen in 85 or 86 in Royal Oak(?).

laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 7 April 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

Also, the Tahquamenon Falls, largest in Michigan.
Been there too. :-) We had lunch at the brewery & walked around, and on the drive back to St Ignace, we went past two guys driving along the side of the road on ATVs-in itself nothing out of the ordinary for the UP. But one had a child seat welded to the back of the ATV with his tiny toddler in it. Any time I try to explain the UP to anyone I pull out that story.

I put some of my Sault Ste Marie Locks photos up on Flickr.

lyra (lyra), Saturday, 9 April 2005 01:24 (twenty years ago)

ianinportland -- I don't remember that remote control car thing but it sort of seems familiar, likely. Yeah, weird. haha, the "power center". that was the only time I went there.

The Pixies show -- yeah I remember little bits here and there. You have to remember there have been 15 years of heavy drinking in the interim. But yeah, I definitely don't recall any Black Francis huffiness. Seems to me that they did a full set. In fact I loved those guys at the time so I am sure I would remember if they had cut the set short. I definitely remember a "Wave Of Mutilation" really early in the set that totally rocked. I remember a "Vamos" towards the end of the set with the extended guitar freak-out part, where Santiago took his guitar and pushed it face first into the amp generating all sorts of feedback and stuff. I DEFINITELY remember that, cuz I loved that tune and I was a burgeoning noisemonger. And I TOTALLY remember that they played "Into the White" -- if not the last song, one of the last one or two -- and being really psyched because it was a B-SIDE and a Kim tune. I was all like "woah they are playing this, this is great!!"

Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 9 April 2005 02:27 (twenty years ago)

Ha Ha, I had forgotten that they call the locks Soo, like they said, "Well, we're stuck with the town name, but we're spelling the locks the way we want to, dammit! None of that French shit." I visited the locks when I was there, but from your pics they're not as big as I remember (I was 6). And our family went into SSM, Canada once, my first foreign country.

nickn (nickn), Saturday, 9 April 2005 04:50 (twenty years ago)

im eating a captain jack pasty right now!

AaronK (AaronK), Saturday, 9 April 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

with Toivo and Eino's pasty sauce.

AaronK (AaronK), Saturday, 9 April 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

Heh, yeah the name is just crazy. Anyway, they're fairly large...the ship I took pictures of is over 1,000 feet long. ;-)

lyra (lyra), Sunday, 10 April 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

I just crossposted this to the ILM MI thread accidentally...

I am going to the 906 this weekend and I am v v excited to be home again for a little while.

dan m, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

Welcome to Michigan, may I see your papers and phone

Michigan: Police Search Cell Phones During Traffic Stops
ACLU seeks information on Michigan program that allows cops to download information from smart phones belonging to stopped motorists.

The Michigan State Police have a high-tech mobile forensics device that can be used to extract information from cell phones belonging to motorists stopped for minor traffic violations. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Michigan last Wednesday demanded that state officials stop stonewalling freedom of information requests for information on the program.

ACLU learned that the police had acquired the cell phone scanning devices and in August 2008 filed an official request for records on the program, including logs of how the devices were used. The state police responded by saying they would provide the information only in return for a payment of $544,680. The ACLU found the charge outrageous.

"Law enforcement officers are known, on occasion, to encourage citizens to cooperate if they have nothing to hide," ACLU staff attorney Mark P. Fancher wrote. "No less should be expected of law enforcement, and the Michigan State Police should be willing to assuage concerns that these powerful extraction devices are being used illegally by honoring our requests for cooperation and disclosure."

A US Department of Justice test of the CelleBrite UFED used by Michigan police found the device could grab all of the photos and video off of an iPhone within one-and-a-half minutes. The device works with 3000 different phone models and can even defeat password protections.

"Complete extraction of existing, hidden, and deleted phone data, including call history, text messages, contacts, images, and geotags," a CelleBrite brochure explains regarding the device's capabilities. "The Physical Analyzer allows visualization of both existing and deleted locations on Google Earth. In addition, location information from GPS devices and image geotags can be mapped on Google Maps."

The ACLU is concerned that these powerful capabilities are being quietly used to bypass Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable searches.

"With certain exceptions that do not apply here, a search cannot occur without a warrant in which a judicial officer determines that there is probable cause to believe that the search will yield evidence of criminal activity," Fancher wrote. "A device that allows immediate, surreptitious intrusion into private data creates enormous risks that troopers will ignore these requirements to the detriment of the constitutional rights of persons whose cell phones are searched."

The national ACLU is currently suing the Department of Homeland Security for its policy of warrantless electronic searches of laptops and cell phones belonging to people entering the country who are not suspected of committing any crime.

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 18:54 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puv-wGYbcPM

DX Dx DX (dan m), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

cheesy as hell but made me homesick

DX Dx DX (dan m), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

I like how Muskegon is right there in the whatever-you-call-it screen! Oh Michigan.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:34 (thirteen years ago)

THEY WENT TO WHITEHALL NO SHIT

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

Is that song a thing? It's terrible, but I cried anyway.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

https://s3.amazonaws.com/assets.svpply.com/large/556799.jpg?1341721855

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

Although when I wore it to work last week, someone asked me, "Why is the rabbit jumping over the mitten?"

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

I have never thought about it before, but the up does sort of look like a rabbit.

NR’s resident heavy-metal expert (Nicole), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 20:02 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, that's who in orbit is.

Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

Michigan: A Picture Thread

███★★★███ (PappaWheelie V), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 22:44 (thirteen years ago)


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