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The roof collapses on Tom DeLay

If Tom DeLay can survive this, they'll have to change his nickname from "the Hammer" to "Houdini." This morning, the already besieged House majority leader, facing scores of allegations about unethical behavior and abuse of power, and grumbling among his nervous GOP troops, gets hit with a one-two punch, courtesy of the Washington Post and the New York Times. Their exposés only add more detail to a portrait of a politician who rarely let the rules get in the way of his own personal enrichment.

First, the Post: "A six-day trip to Moscow in 1997 by then-House Majority Whip Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) was underwritten by business interests lobbying in support of the Russian government, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the trip arrangements." It is against the law for a member of Congress to accept travel reimbursements from registered lobbyists and foreign agents.

At the time, DeLay reported that the $57,000 Moscow trip was paid for by a Beltway nonprofit outfit. "But interviews with those involved in planning DeLay's trip say the expenses were covered by a mysterious company registered in the Bahamas that also paid for an intensive $440,000 lobbying campaign," the Post reports.

This is now the third overseas trip taken by DeLay that appears to have been paid for by foreign agents. Making matters worse, the lobbyist at the center of DeLay's Moscow trip was the notorious Jack Abramoff, who is now at the center of a federal influence-peddling and corruption probe investigation.

Then there's the Times: "The wife and daughter of Tom DeLay, the House majority leader, have been paid more than $500,000 since 2001 by Mr. DeLay's political action and campaign committees." The paper notes the women's duties "were described in the disclosure forms as 'fund-raising fees,' 'campaign management' or 'payroll,' with no additional details about how they earned the money."

Over the last three years DeLay's wife and daughter have received, on average, monthly paychecks worth $4,000.

DeLay's political action and campaign committee, Americans for a Republican Majority, is already the target of a criminal investigation, with its executive director "indicted in Texas last year on charges of illegal fund-raising, and prosecutors there have refused to rule out the possibility of charges against Mr. DeLay in the continuing inquiry," notes the Times.

When will America, and particularly Texas, start to acknowledge that this man is the most fetid immoral parasite in American politics and shower his political life with a a well needed flood of bug spray?

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

I can't imagine he's long for politics at this point, but I've been wrong before.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

I like to watch.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

It's always nice to see these guys flame out, and I guess it does some actual damage -- his successor might lay off some of the more brazen scorched-earth tactics for a little while. But the machine he built is in place and will stay (e.g. the shakedown mandate that interested parties wanting federal favors donate only to Republicans, the utter lockstep lockdown voting of House Repubs, etc.). He's been very effective at consolidating GOP power. That he mostly did in ways that were unethical, and in some cases illegal, will cost him personally, but the party will continue to benefit. (Plus also, unless he actually goes to jail or something, it's not like the guy's going to be out in the rain. K Street will take good care of him.)

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

I should very much like to see him tarred and feathered. He is an enemy of the Republic in my eyes.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

as much as i hate tom delay ... and i do ... i wouldn't mind having the fucker stick around and twist in the wind till, say, late summer 2006. we do need to get back at least ONE congressional chamber, and the bugman an awfully effective whipping-boy (shit, he makes NEWT look loveable and sane!)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

and getting rid of delay will really be a case of "the king is dead, long live the king!"

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

I would love to see a targeted campaign in every district showing how the local representative has been beaten into submission by Tom and by what means (threats, bribes, etc...) and how it has affected local issues and local infrastructure. Then I'd like to see everything said rep. has done or said to protect Tom. There must be a giant web of corruption and intimidation full of anecdotes and stories that could topple the Hammer and impugn the reputations of many House Republicans and show them to be... excuse me while I savor the naughty irony... un-American.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

i'm guessing/hoping we will be granted a long grind rather than a quick exit here. this is delay's entry into wider regognition too, after braindeadgate. yay!

― g e o f f (gcannon), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

i'm guessing/hoping we will be granted a long grind rather than a quick exit here. this is delay's entry into wider regognition too, after braindeadgate. yay!

i hope so, too.

latest reports, though, are rumored to be coming from former delay staffers and GOP insiders.

the smart ones in the GOP want him gone ... they know what's coming if he sticks around.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

Oh look -- the DeLay gang has been running the Marianas as their own little island kingdom:

The government of a United States territory in the Pacific said Thursday that it had been unable to determine what work was performed for a $1.2 million contract awarded to a close associate of a Washington lobbyist at the center of a growing corruption scandal here.

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The no-bid contract to promote "ethics in government" was awarded in 1996 to David Lapin, a rabbi whom the lobbyist, Jack Abramoff, later hired to run a private Jewish school, now defunct, near Washington. The contract was one of several totaling about $9 million given to Mr. Abramoff and his associates that have provoked questions about the lobbyist's activities in the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands.

Those activities included a 1998 trip arranged for Representative Tom DeLay, the House majority leader, who is facing ethics questions about his relationship with Mr. Abramoff. Democrats in Congress have also said that two of Mr. DeLay's former staff members improperly influenced island elections in part to assure that Mr. Abramoff continued to win contracts there.

... Pam Brown, the attorney general for the Marianas, said Thursday that the government had been unable to determine what work David Lapin had done.

"We haven't been able to figure out what the deliverables were," Ms. Brown said. "He was tasked with providing some sort of ethical parameters for government work. That's all I know at this point. We're more amazed at the cost."

... In 1999, Mr. DeLay's former chief of staff, Edwin Buckham, and his former spokesman, Michael Scanlon, both of whom later worked with Mr. Abramoff in his lobbying firm, visited the islands to persuade two local lawmakers to change their votes for speaker of the islands' House of Representatives. The DeLay associates wanted the two legislators to support the candidate of the garment industry, Ben Fitial, who was close to Mr. Abramoff, and promised that federal contracts to the islands would follow if they did.

Mr. Buckham later represented Enron in its bid to build an energy plant in the Northern Marianas, and when Enron lost to a Japanese concern, Mr. DeLay worked to get the bidding reopened.

"For years, Mr. Abramoff lobbied to protect a Marianas industry that exploited tens of thousands of women workers, many of whom were channeled into the island sex trade," said Representative George Miller, the California Democrat who called for the investigation of Mr. Abramoff's work in the Marianas.

He noted the audits and added that newspapers on the islands had reported this week that Mr. Fitial admitted he had won the speakership because of the work by Mr. DeLay's associates. "Given the evidence in the public reports, it's long past time for Congress to investigate allegations of undue influence and corruption," Mr. Miller said.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 29 April 2005 07:14 (twenty years ago)

(of course, it's possible majority leaders always get island fiefdoms. I'm not up on my congressional protocol.)

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 29 April 2005 07:16 (twenty years ago)

Has anyone been reading Doonesbury lately?

― caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 29 April 2005 07:27 (twenty years ago)

i wonder what it means that their is no whiff of sex in this at all.

― anthony, Friday, 29 April 2005 07:37 (twenty years ago)

five months pass...

Poor boy.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

http://www.dcist.com/images/2005_0615_yougotserved.jpg

Arrest warrant issued for DeLay

XPOST: GET OUTTA MY HEAD NED OMGWTFLOLETC

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

Could you stop fidgeting about, Tad? You keep moving out of the camera coverage.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

"To any sheriff or peace officer of the state of Texas, greetings, you are hereby commanded to arrest Thomas Dale DeLay and keep him safely so that you have him before the 331st Judicial District Court of Travis County,"

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

"You are also to ask him about his ridiculous middle name/last name combination."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Why didn't they just name him "Daley Dale DeLay" and be done with it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Dale Y. Delay would have been the obvious choice.

xpost!

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

Daley Delay,
Lay across my big brass bed.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

You want THIS sprawled over your bed?

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/nm/20051019/2005_10_19t154709_341x450_us_delay.jpg?x=180&y=237&sig=3tGX.GqN3tjE0fCQbNth3w--

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

Although I will admit Gollum has looked worse.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

Daley Delay,
Get behind these big brass bars.

better?

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm less inclined to nausea.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

at least he'll know how to take care of all of the cockroaches in the place where he's going.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

How much better would "You Got Served" have been had it been a lawyer movie with almost exactly the same plot/dialogue????

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

How much better would "You Got Served" have been had it been a lawyer movie with almost exactly the same plot/dialogue????

dan, you'd be (pleasantly?) surprised to know that the average conversation where i work would make the dialogue to "you got served" seem like "king lear" in comparison.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

So what do you do when you finish picking the lice off each other in the offices?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

haha, we are using "arrest warrent issued for delay" as a screenshot for our RSS app

― Paranoid Spice (ex machina), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

this morning on my bus when delay's arrest came on the news i could see at least 3 other ppl suddenly flashing wide, surprised smiles

― _, Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

Do you have TV on your bus?

― jw (ex machina), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

hahaha. Nancy Pelosi posted Delay's warrant

― kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

HTTP 404 - File not found
Internet Information Services

― jw (ex machina), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

yeah its called "transit tv", i think they got it in chicago too

― _, Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

http://www.transitv.com/

they show news on the marta too
http://www.itsmarta.com/images/TRNphoto1.jpg

― _, Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

what city?

― jw (ex machina), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I remember now I saw that in LA a couple of months back. Weird.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

I can't get his link to work.

MARTA is Atlanta, jw.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

When do we see a perp walk?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

My ideal scenario here is "Cops"-like. DeLay is holed up in a tiny fleabag hotel as the Blues close in. It's a three man team on an exterior second-floor balcony with an empty swimming pool littered with beercans and cigarette butts below. Two of the cops have their weapons out, the third carries the battering ram. After knocking on the door and announcing that they have a warrant, the sound of breaking glass is heard from inside. The door is knocked down to reveal a filthy hotel room. There are clothes and shoes visible. The window is a smashed pane facing a bare brick wall. The police check that he hasn't hidden in the bathroom or under the filthy bed, and one goes to the window to cover the alley. Another quickly runs downstairs and around the motel pursued by the hand-held camera operator, at which point we see the building behind the motel is a Long John Silver's. The officer at the window calls down stating that the car keys were found in the clothes, so he must have fled on foot. After a quick search of the alley, Delay is found in the seafood restaurant's dumpster wearing only striped boxers, black socks and a wifebeater undershirt. He has a .38 special tucked in his waistband, but no bullets, although there is a large wad of cash eventually discovered hidden in a sack of rancid shrimps.

Hey, a guy can dream.

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

a bigger view of the warrant, if the first link didn't work

― kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

They're showing the mug shot now -- he looks like he just got his dick sucked.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

Um.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

PIX PLZ

― jw (ex machina), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

jesus h:

http://www.cafepress.com/thewhitehouse/866007

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

Here's a link. I don't know if Smoking Gun allows hotlinking so I'm not going to bother.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1020051delay1.html

xpost

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

OMG that's not the one I saw, but the description fits for that one too.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

i have a feeling that's a fake but nonetheless GET MONEY MAKE MONEY people of the internet

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

it looks like he's taking a yearbook picture.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

or his photo for the corporate pamphlet

― kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

creepiest mug shot ever. It's like he's just decided to live in Lala-Laugh-it-off-land.

― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

Most adorable mugshot ever! He's probably doing a double thumbs-up, just out of frame.

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 20 October 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

The new version of korn.jpg

― kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 20 October 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

'adorable'. he looks intensely lynchian, always, and esp. here.

― j.c., Thursday, 20 October 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/homepage/hp10-21-05e.jpg

And what a fun conversation this was, I'm sure. (The other entity is one of DeLay's 'unidentified lawyers,' allegedly.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 October 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

It's been said that he was smiling & without numbers in the photo to deny its use in political ads in next year's elections. Thing is, couldn't ANY photo be used? Hell, they could just go on about the corruption in the federal gov't, "and this guy had no problem with it! look how happy he is at all!" or somesuch.

― kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 21 October 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

NRO to DeLay: please step aside, you're embarrassing us

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 22:58 (twenty years ago)

aaaaaaand here we go

Rep. Charles Bass (R-N.H.) and Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) are circulating around a petition to hold new elections for House Majority Leader. If they get 50 signatures, it's on.

Rumors that it's entitled, "DAEREST COLLEEAGGUE," are unconfirmed at press time.

― kingfish pibb Xtra (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 6 January 2006 21:44 (twenty years ago)

Bring Down the Hammer (Flake-Bass remix) 12" -- $10.25 -- NM+

― kingfish pibb Xtra (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 6 January 2006 21:46 (twenty years ago)

Knives out...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060106/ap_on_go_co/delay

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 January 2006 22:37 (twenty years ago)

Kinda satisfying, really.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 January 2006 22:52 (twenty years ago)

I won't be really satisfied until he's busting rocks. Which obviously will never happen, cause unless he blows up a schoolbus full of orphans on live TV or something the best we can hope for is a big (but not big enough) fine and a year or two at club fed.

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Friday, 6 January 2006 23:37 (twenty years ago)

he'll just go back to the private sector. maybe a fine. no jail time.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 January 2006 23:45 (twenty years ago)

I guess busting rocks in the private sector would be okay, too.

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Friday, 6 January 2006 23:48 (twenty years ago)

what's that line about "only going to jail if yer caught with a live boy or a dead girl"?

― kingfish pibb Xtra (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 7 January 2006 00:18 (twenty years ago)

i think the line is "only going to jail if yer caught with a live boy or a dead girl"

fyi

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 7 January 2006 00:49 (twenty years ago)

just checking

― kingfish pibb Xtra (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 7 January 2006 01:07 (twenty years ago)

and that's that.

― kingfish pibb Xtra (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 8 January 2006 03:48 (twenty years ago)

Lata nigga!

― Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Sunday, 8 January 2006 03:53 (twenty years ago)

*crash*
*burn*
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060109/ap_on_go_co/delay_indictment_3;_ylt=AmctkgVo38_0_.tBfLcbwQ.GbToC;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 January 2006 19:07 (twenty years ago)

apparently, Bob Ney(R-OH) is gone from his leadership spot, too.

A source close to Hastert said the Speaker does not want to unveil lobbying reform legislation with Ney still in possession of a senior House position.

― kingfish kuribo's shoe (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 13 January 2006 23:49 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

Seeya.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 01:36 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I play golf. I'm very proud of the fact that I play golf. It's the only thing that I do for myself. And when you go to a country and you're there for seven days and you take an afternoon off to play golf, what does the national media write? All about the golf, not about the meeting that went to.
...

I said a little prayer before I actually did the fingerprint thing, and the picture," he said. "My prayer was basically: 'Let people see Christ through me. And let me smile.' Now, when they took the shot, from my side, I thought it was fakiest smile I'd ever given. But through the camera, it was glowing. I mean, it had the right impact. Poor old left couldn't use it at all.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

Aja Dante and Tom DeLay in one day?
No mercy for the weak and innocent, I see.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

"In what must be a relief to his many lawyers, he said he has not kept a diary."

― Abbott (Abbott), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 01:48 (nineteen years ago)

"June said she knew there'd be some people from the South here. You get out here and the goddamn place is so crazy, you gotta get somethin' to eat somehow."
-- "Johnny Cash at San Quentin"

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 03:59 (nineteen years ago)

^^^ gangsta

― ++++, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

This as about as balls as it gets:

"The only reason I was indicted [was] the stupid rule that allows the Democrats to pick the Republican leadership," Mr. DeLay said.

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20060405-123416-5226r.htm

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

DeLay Charge Stays Out, Appeals Court Says

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: April 19, 2006
Filed at 11:09 a.m. ET

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- An appeals court Wednesday upheld a judge's ruling throwing out a felony conspiracy charge against former U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay.

DeLay, who announced this month that he is resigning his congressional seat, still faces a money-laundering charge and another conspiracy charge stemming from the financing of state legislative races in 2002.

A lower court judge dismissed a conspiracy charge against DeLay in December, agreeing with defense arguments that the conspiracy law did not cover election code violations in 2002; the Legislature amended the law in 2003.

Prosecutors had argued before a three-judge panel of the 3rd Court of Appeals that conspiracy to violate the election code had always been a crime and that the 2003 change merely clarified the law.

No trial date has been set on the criminal charges in Travis County. District Attorney Ronnie Earle's office had no immediate comment on the ruling.

DeLay attorney Dick DeGuerin said he expects Earle will appeal to the Court of Criminal Appeals, the state highest court for criminal matters.

''We've been right all along that Ronnie Earle charged a crime that didn't exist and there's 30 years of precedent that backs that up,'' DeGuerin said. ''We want to get to trial and hope once we do, a jury will find Tom Delay didn't do anything illegal.''

DeLay, a Republican from Sugar Land, stepped aside as majority leader last fall after he was indicted in Texas. He won his GOP primary in March, but later announced he'll resign from Congress in the coming weeks.

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Associated Press Writer Suzanne Gamboa in Washington, D.C. contributed to this report

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

uhm.

enlisting vid from a Stephen Colbert interview is...an odd move.

― kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

oh shit, this has already been posted.

never mind.

― kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

nine months pass...

He is a bitter man these days.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 March 2007 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

And further:

The real America — people out there running around all day to take their kids to school and karate practice and going to church and family barbecues — they don’t read the New York Times.

Damned fake Americans!

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

Lopez: How bad has Speaker Pelosi been so far?

These are the kinds of questions I wish the New York Times would ask!

― f. hazel, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

delay looked exceptionally clueless and silly on Meet the Press yesterday. i kind of enjoyed it

― daria-g, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

If George Bush has been "holding the line on spending", I'd hate to see him on a shopping spree with a gift certificate.

Delay is totally crackers.

― earlnash, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 02:22 (eighteen years ago)

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