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Woman Charged in Threat Against Schiavo's Husband


New York Lawyer
April 7, 2005

By The Associated Press

SAN FRANCISCO -- A California woman has been charged with threatening to kill Michael Schiavo, the man whose decision to remove his brain-damaged wife's feeding tube enraged religious conservatives.

The federal charge against Dera Marie Jones stems from a posting on an America Online message board: "If she dies I will kill Michael Schiavo and the judge. This for real!"

Jones told FBI agents she was "just kidding" and soon began receiving threats herself, FBI Agent Christopher Sadlowski wrote in an affidavit filed Monday in federal court in San Francisco.

Jones, 32, is charged with transmitting in interstate commerce a communication containing a threat to injure a person.

Schiavo's wife, Terri, died at a Florida hospice March 31, almost two weeks after her feeding tube was removed. She had received food and water artificially since 1990, when she suffered brain damage that court-appointed doctors determined had placed her in a persistent vegetative state.

Michael Schiavo had been in a prolonged legal battle with his wife's parents, who wanted their 41-year-old daughter kept alive.

I believe that traditionally the crime of assault is defined approximately like this: "ASSAULT, crim. law. An assault is any unlawful attempt or offer with force or violence to do a corporal hurt to another, whether from malice or wantonness; for example, by striking at him or even holding up the fist at him in a threatening or insulting manner, or with other circumstances as denote at the time. an intention, coupled with a present ability (italics mine), of actual violence against his person, as by pointing a weapon at him when he is within reach of it. 6 Rogers Rec: 9. When the injury is actually inflicted, it amounts to a battery." If I remember correctly the threat has to be credible, i.e., if I threaten to vaporize your house with my Illudium Q36 explosive space modulator, it's not likely to be considered assault.

I have nothing per se against prosecuting people who use message boards or e-mails to hound, stalk, and otherwise scare people for real, but it seems Orwellian to me that this lady, whose politics I'm sure I despise, is being prosecuted by the Federal Govt. for what is essentially intemperate and hyperbolic speech. What say you?

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 7 April 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

I'd love some persepctive/discussion from Eisbar and the other juris doctors here.

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 7 April 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

I haven't done a search but I'm sure sure I'm several times guilty of this.

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 7 April 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

I will kill anyone who replies to this thread. I am not joking.

does that make you want to touch yourself? (nordicskilla), Thursday, 7 April 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

THIS FOR REAL

David Svensson (deangulberry), Thursday, 7 April 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

This is your best thread title ever, Huck. The article however is frightening.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 7 April 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

Adam, I hope that's you're new user name.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 7 April 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

This is your best thread title ever, Huck.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

David Svensson (deangulberry), Thursday, 7 April 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

I will transmitt in interstate commerce a communication containing a threat to injure a person if anyone replies to nordic.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 7 April 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

JUST KIDDING!!!

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Thursday, 7 April 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

Now I kill with interstate communications.

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 7 April 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

YOU FOLKS IN TEXARKANA HAD BETTER JUST WATCH OUT!

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 7 April 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)


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