Wireless Network Connectivity Question

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Is it possible for another network in the range of the secured network I'm on to someone kick me off the network? My connection always seems to crap out every so often, and it seems (from my rudimentary peepin') that this happens whenever another nearby network kicks on & gets picked up by the access point. All responses will be appreciated, even the goofy ones.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

I havent played with my wifi much, but are you able to change the radio frequency it broadcasts over to stop it clashing with someone nearby? Does it even work like that? I never had any luck with wifi, it dropped out far too much.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

yes, trayce is right. try changing the channel.

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 01:38 (twenty years ago)

Thanks, guys. I'll have to ask my genius roomy about that. The "funny" part about all this is that my roomy (who set all this up so we could use laptops on the web, & also so the modem could be two floors below my PC w/out having to do any wall drilling) is now using his fancy new laptop (w/ built-in wireless card) on the web WITH A WIRE (& only 5 feet from the access point, too), so he really doesn't give a rat's ass about the problem. And I don't think my constant swearing & bitching about the situation helps matters.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 03:03 (twenty years ago)

Checked w/ the roomy (whom I had pegged wrong, which makes sense, given I'm a spaz) - he's tried that before, & no dice, problems still exist.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 03:50 (twenty years ago)

Everyone I know has had problems with DHCP and wifi and solved them by giving static IP addresses to the computers on the wireless network.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 04:45 (twenty years ago)

Yeah we use static internal IPs here, even over ethernet - its just easier that way, I have no idea how DHCP works but it never works for me!

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 06:11 (twenty years ago)

DHCP is indeed evil and more trouble than it's worth for small networks.

Are you using Windows? Is it set up to try to always connect to the network with the strongest signal? What you should do - if you're on Windows XP - is go to the properties dialog of your wireless adapter, click on the "Wireless Networks" tab, and make sure that your own network is listed at the top of the "Preferred Networks" list.

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 06:48 (twenty years ago)

Caitlin, I am on an XP machine, & my network is the ONLY one that's listed on my preferred network list. Also, the 1 network that shows up more often than not is secure (as is ours), so the only way I could connect to it is if I had the network key.

I think the IP addresses are static, but I'll doublecheck. (Stupid question: does the ACCESS POINT have an IP address?)

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

Yes.

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
Ok. New PC laptop. I'm trying to configure the wireless card to pick up any signal it finds and be able to use it. The tech support guy at Sony tells me that this is possible, but that it is illegal for him to tell me how to do it. Has something to do with the TCP/IP settings? I guess? I'm totally totally new to this.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 9 July 2005 00:16 (twenty years ago)

It should actually do that by default. The windows wireless utility and most newer utilities that come with the wifi card will find all networks within range, tell you whether they're secure or not, signal strength, and give you the option of connecting to them automatically, even popping up every two minutes in an annoying fashion if you don't choose one. If it's not enabled you can search manually by going to control panel>properties of the wireless connection I think(I don't have wifi either but I've seen it enough at work.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 9 July 2005 00:59 (twenty years ago)

telling you how common utilities work is illegal, yeah, whatever.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 9 July 2005 01:03 (twenty years ago)

spurred by this stupid florida nonsense probably

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 9 July 2005 01:20 (twenty years ago)

It finds signals, gives me signal strength, etc, but will not let me actually connect to the internet through them. Maybe those networks are requiring IP identification? That's not a bad idea, really -- otherwise people like me would steal their bandwidth.

Or am I doing something wrong?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 9 July 2005 03:52 (twenty years ago)

And I don't mean morally.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 9 July 2005 03:52 (twenty years ago)

They may require an encryption key to connect, but there'd probably be a message popping up on your screen saying so.

There's also the chance, if you can actually ESTABLISH the connection, but not actually do anything with it, that you are simply finding other people's wireless-enabled notebooks and making a direct connection to them, instead of to an access point.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Saturday, 9 July 2005 05:05 (twenty years ago)

I've watched people on an iBook in my apartment do this with no problem. Which is mainly why I keep feeling like I'm missing something.

There's no pop-up message, and this is the first I'm hearing of an encryption key. I should take the thing to a coffee shop and see if it works there.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 9 July 2005 05:10 (twenty years ago)

will not let me actually connect to the internet through them

Maybe I should clarify. It connects just fine, searches for things, sends packets, but receives none and so times out.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 9 July 2005 05:12 (twenty years ago)

Also, it tells me I have strong, perfect connections.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 9 July 2005 05:15 (twenty years ago)

The flatterer

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Saturday, 9 July 2005 06:32 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

Any help on getting a laptop to even see a wireless network? My desktop sees our network with a very good signal, and occasionally sees one or two other networks. The laptop can't see our network at all, but can see four or five others, with very weak signals. SSID is broadcasting (but it doesn't work when I input the details manually anyway).

ledge, Thursday, 28 August 2008 22:40 (seventeen years ago)

Fixed it by changing the wireless channel; why that should have such a radical effect (from no signal to great signal), or why it didn't come up as a solution when googling, i dunno.

ledge, Friday, 29 August 2008 09:40 (seventeen years ago)

I've had nothing but strange unexplained problems with wireless connections, so now I connect directly and I've accepted the huge cable running down my stairs and through the middle of my lounge.

Ste, Friday, 29 August 2008 09:46 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

ok, so my wireless connection is totally a-ok 90% of the time, but a couple of times per day it's started to randomly drop out completely for up to ten minutes at a time.

what happens is, the airport signal starts alternating between full bars and no bars, and i basically have to wait it out to get any signal again (and in the meantime any internet forms i've been working on die on me).

i have no idea why it's doing this and would like any tips on how to make it stop. i don't know whether it's my modem or my laptop or what (could it be the laptop? it's done it a couple of times when using the neighbours' connection too). but it is DOING MY FUCKING HEAD IN

lex pretend, Thursday, 30 June 2011 10:06 (fourteen years ago)

can ANYONE help me with this? :(

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 09:42 (fourteen years ago)

Per a couple of remarks upthread, it would be well worth changing the wireless channel on yr router (if you've not done this already). If there's some new wifi device/point in the immediate locale it could be randomly fritzing the signal for both your router and yr neighbour's, so a channel change would be the first step.

Bill A, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 11:05 (fourteen years ago)

two months pass...

Was really incredibly slow recently but the modem was four years old, which is around when they fail, as somebody pointed out on some thread recently, doesn't seem to be this one, so the guy just came and swapped it out and now it is fine.

When I Stop Meming (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

Had been worried it was some Spotify BW vampire or something.

When I Stop Meming (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 September 2011 16:38 (fourteen years ago)


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