I've just been prescribed "Citalopram" for anxiety/depression - has anyone been on this?

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First thing i've ever taken for this and i'm quite scared about taking it. If anybody here has taken it before i'd appreciate any endorsements or warnings!

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

are you anxious/depressed?

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

Obviously the drugs have different names in the U.S., but I have had good luck on a medicine that is for anxiety and depression (Lexapro). It made me a little jittery at first, but after a couple of days I was fine. I don't think you have anything to be scared about; just be aware it might take up to a month to see real results, and don't be afraid to contact your doctor if you have bothersome side effects. Sometimes being on the right meds can take a lot to tweaking — finding the right medicine, then finding the right dose, etc.

sugarpants: bea arthur's secret lover (sugarpants), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:yO-6Xu7s98AJ:www.socialaudit.org.uk/_disc550/00000037.htm+Citalopram+horror&hl=en

dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

Yes i am anxious and depressed. The doctor gave me this on what he said was a low dose and valium for emergency (which i will definately be too scared to take).

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

do you eat a lot of fast food?

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

i was never given valium for emergencies! that sucks.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

I agree that talk therapy/counseling is very important when trating depression or anxiety disorders, but I am wary of any testimonial that suggests "(Insert drug here) didn't work for me, so it won't work for anyone." I participated (and continue to, actually) in a lot of counseling while dealing with my anxiety problems, but ultimately the Lexapro has helped as much as anything. Of course, for some if's more of a chemical issue, others more of an emotional issue. For me, obviously, the chemical imbalance in my brain was a major piece of the puzzle. There is no panacea.

sugarpants: bea arthur's secret lover (sugarpants), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

i hardly eat fast food at all

i think i'll think about whether to take this or not for a day or two. i am deeply suspicious of medicine.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

Medicine saves my wife's life on a daily basis.

Curious George (1/6 Scale Model) (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

I owe an awful lot to Zoloft, but I also no longer take it. Just make sure you don't get yourself in the trap of habitual SSRI use, Hari.

Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

thats the main thing i want to avoid. I'm also wary of the first two week side effects. It's a really important time for me at the moment in terms of preparations for exams i have in a couple of months - which is actually the reason i wanted to take medical measures to stabilise this.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

save the valium for parties

lukey (Lukey G), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

An SSRI (seratonin something something...). On the Internets you can find horror stories about any of them, so that doesn't mean much to me. I mean, basically I'm guessing it'll make you feel a little edgy and nauseous when you first start taking it, but you have to take it for a couple weeks so that it builds up enough to tell if it's actually helping. All SSRIs are like this.

I wouldn't be scared about it, though, in terms of actual physical side effects. Especially if you're starting a low dose. If it makes you feel really jittery and slightly impulsive don't do anything rash, though. But lots of people take them. I suppose the troublesome part of it is, well, it creates this extra dimension of uncertainty, i.e. which of my behavior/moods is really mine, and which is from the "chemical imbalance" and which is from the medication to redress the imbalance? But then, if you have anxiety and depression you can worry endlessly over that anyway - what issues am I totally responsible for and what is caused by persistent anxiety & etc.?

daria g (daria g), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

Eesh... if it's not too geeky, might I recommend keeping a little log of symptoms / side-effects during the first two weeks? Generally you'll have a follow-up appointment, and having a written resource is incredibly helpful for your physician in adjusting the dosage.

Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

I've not tried Citalopram, but I'm currently using Fluoxetine (i.e. NHS Prozac) and I've found it very effective with few side-effects. To illustrate, last year I was suffering from a combination of OCD, depression and anxiety sufficiently severe that I had to drop out of my first year of university because I had become completely incapable of any productive activity. I've been taking this medicine for a few months now and the degree to which the burden has been lifted is remarkable.

I can't comment on the specific medicine you mentioned, but i can say that fluoxetine has been very effective. And apparently they are both SSRIs. Took a month or so to have much of an effect though.

Dialectical Dave (Dialectical Dave), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

a log is actually a fantastic idea. And then i can take it in for the doctor. I'm suprised they don't ask people to do this actually.

(xpost)

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

Remember - not all medicines work on all people, and different doses do different things in different people. Expect tweaking of doses, even drugs, and be patient - it takes time to discover what will work best.

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

citalopram is also known as "Celexa" in the U.S. I've been on it for years now, and it REALLY helps out. plus, i've on a pretty low dosage, too. it's good for keeping my mood from going thru the bottom of the barrel when I start scraping it.

i went off the stuff in oct, and felt like SHIT until i went back on in mid-January. having a bad Election and a massively frustrating job just made things worse.

kingfish, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

Well, Election problems are a common side effect of any SSRI.

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

'tis all in the timin'

kingfish, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

paxil really really really helped/possibly saved me.

my anxiety was so bad that i started fearing things that are completely ridiculous and outside the realm of possibility. i have always been depressed and find that to be not
so severe that i need to medicate it, but the anxiety was ruining my life.

i also hate medicine, so i was very nervous and very skeptical to take anything. i would,
in desperation, pop xanax and just hope to fall asleep so that i didn't have to worry about
counting my decelerating heartbeats. so needless to say, i was not especially eager to
take another pill. at the end of the day, i took three weeks off from work and went away
to my parents' house and just read and relaxed so that i didn't really even notice it coming
on.

i waited a while after i felt "better" before i stopped taking it, but despite its helpfulness
i didn't want to be on it any longer than necessary. i have been off it for 2 1/2 years and
i'm doing okay. i still am an anxious person, but i always have been, and in the time i was
on it, i devoted a lot of thought to how i would deal with these issues when i stopped taking it.

i would say if you have a serious problem, meds are a possible solution worth exploring.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

I took it a few years ago, it did nothing. No side effects, no less depresssion/anxiety, I even looked it up on the internet to see if it was a placebo. Knowing how other people coped with it is a bit useless though, different people react differently. eg. someone upthread posted about how great fluoxetine has been for them, but it gave me fits and I had to be taken to A+E. Hearing how other people reacted to something isn't going to help you know if it'll work for you.

As for the valium, I was on this for about a week, and it was just nasty. It makes you tired and not really with it, but not in a nice way. I'm not sure why anyone would use it recreationally.

lupine lupin (lupinelupin), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

Do any of you/have any of you taken wellbutrin?

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and having fits as a reaction to antidepressants is apparently pretty rare. I've just realised how scary that probably looked.

lupine lupin (lupinelupin), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

i've been on wellbutrin. no real overt side-effects, tho i wasn't in a position at the time to see if it really did harm the sex drive or not.

kingfish, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

my gf just got prescribed wellbutrin today to help her quit smoking. i am vaguely worried about sex drive concerns. i am quitting cigarettes cold turkey and hope not to be quitting sex cold turkey as well. (that does not read sex with cold turkeys, i should not)

firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

quitting smoking is easy as hell if you've got it sorted out in your mind right.

Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

that does not read sex with cold turkeys, i should note

Well where's the fun in that! (Best of luck to both of you.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

i made note for just that reason, ned! i am indeed not quitting the heavy petting zoo. (and thanks)

firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

I tried Welbutrin to stop smoking, but it made my heart race. So I stopped using it and just started drinking a lot of beer and coffee. Which had the same effect, but less so.

x-posts.

Fa Fa fa FA, Fa fa Fa fa FA Fa (poop), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

having a really really bad night. i took some of the valium and for a while it calmed me down insanely. still too scared to take the other one. I dunno.

can you drink with valium?

oh well.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

Pfff, doctors never gave me valium! I like that stuff.

I've had this, Hari, and all I can say from that experience is that it was teeeeeeerrible. And really don't take it if you have any sort of sex life at all.

I'll try and be more in depth, if you like, don't have time right now. But if you've any questions, fire away!

Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

The more i read about this stuff the more it actually doesn't seem right. I can just about deal with the normal anxiety most says but its the attacks of crippling anxiety that i just can't deal with.

i think i'll go back to the doctor next week instead and talk more in depth and decide whats best then

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

I think that sounds like a good plan!

I don't mean to be too down on it at all, it's just that from my own experience, the mere thought of taking it again - and having those same feelings - is almost enough to bring on a panic attack in and of itself.

And if you do take anything, then really don't drink.

Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

this is rubbish. my anxiety is cutting through the sedating effects of valium like a jagged knife.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

Don't drink with valium. Or anti-depressants, either.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

Been on a lot of different antidepressants, before settling on what I am currently on. I think you're way more worked up about it than you should be..how can you be suspicious of medicine? This stuff is grounded in science, if it wasn't effective, doctors wouldn't be prescribing it. You seem anxious enough that I really would suggest trying something for it..can always switch meds or quit taking them, if they do not work or you don't dig the side effects.

Aramyr, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

The thing about these meds, Hari, is they work differently for different people, so there's not much likelihood one person's experience is going to match yours with the same medication. In other words, for one person Prozac, Celexa/Citalopram, Wellbutrin, may not help, and only make him/her nauseous and tired, and Effexor may cause extra anxiety and be intolerable, but Paxil is great and does the trick. For the next person, it might be Prozac that works and the others that only have annoying side effects.

You can find alarmist stuff about ANY medication on the Internet. They're starting you on a really low dose, and it takes a while to build up enough to even have any effects.

I mean, if you're not going to give meds a chance to work, you're not going to give them a chance to work. But you can't take just the first couple doses and be in a position to know if they're helping or not.

daria g (daria g), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

citalopram was really helpful for me. about 9 mos at 20mg per day. it was mildly sucky coming off it though. a bit of the so-called "brain zaps" for at least a month. completely manageable, but disconcerting. back to normal now

ronny longjohns (ronny longjohns), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 23:44 (twenty years ago)

luna, i've been taking wellbutrin for about a year now and it has definitely helped. After the first couple weeks of getting used to it, I haven't really noticed any side-effects at all. My sex drive hasn't diminished at all. I've tried Effexor and Strattera in the past and they really didn't do anything for me, other than side cause side effects.

Aramyr, you can be suspicious of medicine because there is a shitload of money involved in it.

Lingbertt, Thursday, 14 April 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)

Don't drink w. Valium, Hari! I ended being rushed to the hospital in '01 for drinking w. a (fairly mild) dosage of Zoloft.

Remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 14 April 2005 00:10 (twenty years ago)

I ended up throwing up on my friends staircase/cheating on my girlfriend! SIMULTEANOUSLY!

Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Thursday, 14 April 2005 00:23 (twenty years ago)

Hari do you drink coffee at all? My b/f used to have massively bad panic attacks that ended him up in casualty once or twice. He stopped drinking coffee and tea and they totally went away.

Mind you, he *had* been drinking tens of cups of coffee a day.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 14 April 2005 00:56 (twenty years ago)

You are right to be suspicious, as you probably have no knowledge of the chemical pathways involved with these drugs.

Most of you do not take care of yourselves in the first place. Have you tried to exercise each morning, and eat nutritive foods? Do not poison yourselves with nicotine and ethanol and then wonder why you do not feel well.

And the one who says, "how can you be suspicious of medicine? This stuff is grounded in science, if it wasn't effective, doctors wouldn't be prescribing it," obviously has no background in science. Doctors prescribed mercury for hundreds of years, and claimed it was effective. There were plenty of fools to blindly accept their word.

Jacques Cousteau (Jacques Cousteau), Thursday, 14 April 2005 01:35 (twenty years ago)

Celexa is good, mellower than Zoloft and it won't fuck with your gastrostyles. I wouldn't worry so much about SSRI dependence than benzo dependence - in my experience I can tell when the SSRIs have done their job and can stop them then n there but trying to drop benzos cold turkey... shit man the moment you finish breakfast and still cant taste anything, you knwo you are in for a s.k.e.t.c.h.y. afternoon.

LeCoq (LeCoq), Thursday, 14 April 2005 01:50 (twenty years ago)

I've posted elsewhere on this fact, but it's still fucking fascinating to me: When I was on the heavy Zoloft dosage and yawned / inhaled strongly I'd have a dry, non-erect orgasm. My sex-drive was nil for like three months, but it was probably because I'd get off by breathing deep.

Remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 14 April 2005 01:55 (twenty years ago)

OMG that's so hot. Why did you stop?

LeCoq (LeCoq), Thursday, 14 April 2005 02:56 (twenty years ago)

If I'm understanding "gastrostyles" right, I need to chip in that Celexa did fuck with mine. I was hungry nearly all the time. My grocery bills grew a lot. Seriously I'd eat 6 full meals a day sometimes. I also had to go to the bathroom way more frequently than usual. IT WAS ABSOLUTELY WORTH IT DESPITE THIS (these are minor inconveniences compared to clinical depression and chronic anger) but I did end up switching to Effexxor for the second reason. It didn't help enough so I've been off SSRIs for a couple weeks now. My stomach's still got issues but my eating needs have gone back to normal. (I'm finding withdrawal really hard for a number of reasons.)

Another weird side effect was that SSRIs made my gums extremely sensitive so e.g. flossing would be extremely painful.

I still advocate the meds though. They did a lot for me and I was willing to deal with the side effects. Even in withdrawal, I think I'm better off than I was before I went on them.

Of course, for some if's more of a chemical issue, others more of an emotional issue.

I don't think the two are so separate. When you're in a bad place for a long time, it can actually screw up the chemical wiring in your head. At least that's what I understand and it makes sense to me.

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 14 April 2005 03:09 (twenty years ago)

i heard wellbutrin is the only anti-depressant that actually increases sex drive. i tried it once many years ago though and it was the biggest nitemare - severe nausea+insomnia. awake, depressed, and sick ALL THE TIME.

i actually think cognitive-behavioral therapy helped my depression/anxiety a lot, i'd say changed my life even (if that didn't sound so corny). and the guy who started it did so cuz he was depressed he couldn't get laid. interesting character.

though CBT is not without it's side-effects either. now i'm an insufferable know-it-all.

lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Thursday, 14 April 2005 04:53 (twenty years ago)

Oh, can I have that for my excuse? I think I showed up at CBT as an insufferable know-it-all, though. Oh, hell. Now I'm worse of one. It's funny 'cause it's true.

To Hari - I didn't mean to sound too harsh up there, it's that I hate to see you dismiss the meds before you've given them a chance. It's kind of a humbling experience to say, OK, I'm going to try and get better which means accepting to a reasonable degree the professional diagnosis and the prescription, and following it. I'm not too good at this myself obv! You know something is messed up when you're dispensing advice left and right and then look around & go, WTF, my life's kind of a mess right now.

daria g (daria g), Thursday, 14 April 2005 05:07 (twenty years ago)

hey hari, i've been taking citalopram for over a year now. its very subtle, its only after a few weeks that you notice that things that made you anxious no longer do so. the only side effect i had was a difficulty in remembering what things were called sometimes - a lot of conversations like "you know, those metal box things. you put petrol in them. you drive them about.....CARS! how could i forget they were called cars?!!?!?"

zappi (joni), Thursday, 14 April 2005 06:32 (twenty years ago)

citalopram did nothing for me, helps anxiety but i had to have my dose increased twice and didnt notice anything until about six weeks later. i took it until it started making me worse (took it for almost 1yr), the side effects will be individual depending on the person, as usual with these meds, it made me sleep all the time and gain weight, though this changed with dosage because at first it reduced my appetite, kept me up and made me feel emotionly numb.

qsc, Thursday, 14 April 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

i heard wellbutrin is the only anti-depressant that actually increases sex drive.

Celexa did this for me. I'm experiencing the opposite in withdrawal, which I really don't like even without a partner.

It wasn't really subtle for me. The + effects started to appear within a few days. In fact the first few days I was taking it, I'd seriously get stoned on it. It was like smoking two joints a day for the first few days. I could even experience mild hallucinations when listening to music immediately after eating the pill. It evened itself out after three or four days.

I also think that medication should definitely be combined with talk therapy. I was kind of assuming that you've already been doing talk therapy.

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 14 April 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

wellbutrin didn't work for me the first time i was on it, but now that i'm taking it with effexor i'm seeing results. not that it's a miracle cure, but it's better than anything else i've tried.

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 14 April 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

i have to say that lack of sex drive has NEVER been one of my problems.

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 14 April 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

Celexa's one of the few I haven't taken but I've good things from others so good luck with it.

I've been on Wellbutrin for years now, sometimes in combo with other ADs sometimes solo (like now). It's the only one that hasn't had a ton of unpleasant side effects with me (especially the sex ones) so that's why I've stuck with it. It's kind of weak though. I take the maximum dosage and it's nearly as effective for me as zoloft and effexor were.

Interesting what Sundar said upthread. Recently I read a book that suggested the type of trauma I experienced in early childhood might permanently alter the brain's chemisty resulting in illnesses such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. I do not want to take meds for the rest of my life and hope if maybe through enough therapy I can deal with the inital trauma, maybe I won't have to.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Thursday, 14 April 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

i have to say that lack of sex drive has NEVER been one of my problems.

It wasn't a problem before I went on Celexa but there was a major increase when I went on it (in both drive and endurance, ha).

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 14 April 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

(Um, someone else post something...?)

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

after that? how could we!?!?

zappi (joni), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

we're stunned into silence, sundar.

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

I've been on it for two months. The first month, it was an utter godsend - it made me able to function again, whereas before I was so depressed I was unable to get out of bed for days at a time.

HOWEVER, be very careful with the dosage. I went from 10mg to 20 mg and within a week and a half, had a full blown manic episode of epic proportions. My moods are still fluctuating wildly, even though I've gone back down to the lower dosage.

the only side effect i had was a difficulty in remembering what things were called sometimes - a lot of conversations like "you know, those metal box things. you put petrol in them. you drive them about.....CARS! how could i forget they were called cars?!!?!?"

Ha ha, that's what I've been like all the time, but I think you might be right, it has been getting worse since I've been on it. Also freaky vivid dreams of almost hallucinatory realness.

Adherents of the Repeated Kate (kate), Friday, 15 April 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)

for me the dreams are entertaining (and often give me fodder for the "ilx dreams" thread!!). the loss of memory is scary; it was a real problem for me at a temp gig i had when i was getting used to an upped dosage. i was having trouble associating names with faces (which sucks when you're working in a big office full of young clean-cut professional white guys who all look EXACTLY ALIKE), and a couple of times when people would ask me questions about a report i'd edited a few minutes earlier, i'd draw a blank and not remember any details (this also has to do with the way i focus on certain tasks to the exclusion of all else; if i'm doing hardcore line-by-line edits, language just becomes math for me and reading comprehension can fall by the wayside).

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 15 April 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)


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