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I could have sworn that you're supposed to be able to check your credit for free like twice a year, but online all I can find are semi-shadey pages where you have to sign for a trial membership to their services to get your free credit rating. Is there somewhere I'm supposed to go to request my credit rating? My bank perhaps?

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

look here?

Dialectical Dave (Dialectical Dave), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

We did a thread on this awhile ago - there's one reputable website operated by the FTC and it worked great for me.

andy --, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

Thanks Dave. That's exactly what I was looking for.
So I have been turned down a couple of times in the past (most recently about a year ago) for credit cards. I checked my report with two of the three companies, and basically they say I have one "potentially negative" report (an account that is past due for payment, though not for a large amount) and one account in good standing (totally paid off). What's keeping me from getting a credit card? Is it really this one past due account? Or is it just the overall lack of credit (no student loans, no real credit cards, etc.)?

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

Don't get a credit card, they're lame. I've never even applied for one they're so lame, I just use my debit card.

You might have some little blemish, like paying a phone bill late or something, but chances are you have no credit, which I don't have either. So you'll have to get one of those Visa training-bra cards, which you have to put a DEPOSIT on and you can only spend up to that amount. Then you can move up to the real deal.

They don't do this with 19 year old college kids, but if you're a grown-up without credit, they make you jump through hoops.

andy --, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

So you'll have to get one of those Visa training-bra cards, which you have to put a DEPOSIT on and you can only spend up to that amount.

Unfortunately, I already have one of these, and that happens to be the "potentially negative" item on my report. I guess I need to suck it up and use my tax refund to pay off a big chunk of it so that my report looks better.

I know credit cards are bad, but I never have any money and Sarah always has to pay for emergency things for me and it's really bad. Also I should get a job that pays better.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

I'm in the same situation. I avoided credit cards all through college, and when I finally got one for business trips I didn't have to put a deposit on it but it only has a $500 limit. Not like it matters, I got it months ago and I haven't used it once.

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Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

My fake credit card has a limit of $500. It's lame.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

I can see it for emergencies, okay, but the whole credit card industry is one of the slimiest, shittiest institutions on earth. I am completely opposed to paying interest, as was Mohammed the Prophet. But I like beer, which he didn't.

andy --, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

dunno if it's been mentioned upthread, but I feel compelled to note that each time you check your score, it is noted and lowered. Twice / year is far too much; try once every two.

remy not logged in, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

Well, this might be a new thing, but the website Dave linked to says you can check it once a year for free now, and my check was listed under the section of credit checks that other people won't be able to see if they check my credit.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

andy so OTM that i am getting tingles.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

If you can't get approved for a Visa card, try getting a department store card. They're sometimes more liberal with who they extend credit to. (Not Bloomingdale's or Marshall Field, but 2nd rate department stores.) For the love of Yanni, don't ever carry a balance on one, the interest rates are insane.. But having a few store credit cards can help to build credit..

Or possibly a Visa/MC from Shell or BP, since the limit may be lower.

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

I agree that the credit industry is quite slimy, but you work them to your own advantage IF you don't abuse your credit.

I have a card that gives me "reward points" for every dollar I charge (not just for airline miles and shit, but much more flexible when it comes time to cash in). So I use it A LOT on things like groceries, gas, etc. I'm careful to keep my spending in line so that I can pay off the full balance every month, so it doesn't cost me a thing to use.

Payoff: I am about to cash in some of those reward points on a pricey vacuum cleaner that will end up costing me NOTHING. Nada. Of course this really wouldn't be any sort of deal if I was forking over finance charges, but I'm not, so the credit company can just PUT OUT for me!

Also: if you ever plan to buy a house (maybe not likely in the near future, but hey, it could happen!) you can bet that you will have a very difficult time qualifying for a decent mortgage if you don't have much of a credit history. So at least sign up for a real card so that you can show that history, even if you cut up the card and never ever use it.

quincie, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

You make good points, the same I've heard again and again from my folks. I've just made a concious decision to minimize my participation in that whole world. I don't approve of it, I don't belive it's an honest way to make a living, and I don't want anything to do with it. I'd NEVER want a mortgage, you end up paying just the interest for a decade before you even touch the principal.

Plus, they don't get rich off folks with your discipline. And now they're lobbying to restructure bankruptcy so they can bleed poor suckers even more.

andy --, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

so does anybody have a recommendation for a decent rewards card? At my old job we were given company credit cards but at the new one I pay for everything and am reimbursed weekly for any expenditures. I certainly don't ever intend to carry a balance and I figured it might be a good time to exploit one for some airline miles or cash back.

a couple of things I've learned today on the internet:
Capitol One and AMEX Blue seem to be the highest-rated rewards cards - but the sites that rate them seem like they could easily be bought & paid for by card co.'s

there are a lot of disgruntled folks who have had a bitch of a time redeeming their miles/hotel points/what have you. There seems to be a general opinion that the $$ rewards cards are easier cash in on than airline points.

will, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 13:24 (seventeen years ago)

US or UK?

I do BA Amex because the airmiles are good for maintaining a long distance relationship. John Lewis has good cashback. If your work is prompt at reimbursing expenses then you may want to look at an amex charge card rather than credit, rewards are even better there I think.

Drinking Island is inside every one of us (Ed), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 13:33 (seventeen years ago)

US.

another thing i've learned is that Discover rewards cards seem to give the least amount of hassle, but I'm not sure if they're as universally excepted as some of the others. I have to travel a fair amount and I don't want to be screwed at the P.O.S.

will, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 13:37 (seventeen years ago)

accepted

will, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 13:37 (seventeen years ago)

If you ever have to go outside the US discover is useless. In europe occasionally I encounter no Amex, but not as frequently as I encounter no VISA/Mastercard in the US so it is pretty rare. I have one of each anyway.

Drinking Island is inside every one of us (Ed), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 13:41 (seventeen years ago)

Question: have you ever met anyone with a Diner's Club?

Drinking Island is inside every one of us (Ed), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 13:42 (seventeen years ago)

i seem to remember an uncle having one in the 80's

will, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 13:44 (seventeen years ago)

but not as frequently as I encounter no VISA/Mastercard in the US so it is pretty rare.

really? I thought these were the standards everywhere. in fact ive never seen a place that doesnt take both if they take credit cards. they have the cheapest fee right? 50c or something like that?

Bright Future (sunny successor), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 13:46 (seventeen years ago)

I had a Diners Club card 2000-2004.

Bright Future (sunny successor), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 13:47 (seventeen years ago)

Trying to remember where it was but I have been to a restaurant in new york where they only do amex, which seemed weird to me because of what sunny said.

Drinking Island is inside every one of us (Ed), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 13:49 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, i think visa/mc has the lowest fee for businesses whereas amex is more expensive. in big u.s. cities, though, this doesn't seem to be much of an issue, and in nyc there are plenty of amex-only places (mainly restaurants).

lauren, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 13:52 (seventeen years ago)

Watch out for the fees on some of these cards they can be quite steep, £60 in the case of my Amex, but I figure that pays for the travel insurance it comes with.

Drinking Island is inside every one of us (Ed), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 13:53 (seventeen years ago)

yeah that was the other thing. I'm not really interested in an annual fee or any of that BS.

will, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 13:58 (seventeen years ago)

One of the nice things about the UK is the banks have to include the fee in the APR calculation so any fee based card automatically looks shit in the best buy tables.

Drinking Island is inside every one of us (Ed), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 13:59 (seventeen years ago)

in amex's defense, i've found that their customer service is so much better that the fee is sort of worth it.

lauren, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 14:00 (seventeen years ago)

This is OTM, I never have to queue to speak to anyone on the phone.

Drinking Island is inside every one of us (Ed), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 14:01 (seventeen years ago)

hmmm. noted.

will, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 14:02 (seventeen years ago)

Im still floored that you can get a 0% APR on credit cards for a year here in the US. If you jump credit cards enough im sure you can avoid interest. Back in AUS I think 12.99% is considered really low.

Bright Future (sunny successor), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 14:20 (seventeen years ago)

five months pass...

ive got a hsbc credit card which is near its limit, i owe about 9k on it and i pay about £200 in interest on it each month. i keep hearing about this 12mth 0% balance transfer thing - am i right in thinking that it means that i transfer my credit card balance over to another card and dont pay any interest or fees on it for 12 months? if this is right im really keen to do this as im certain i can pay off the entire amount in the next year.

does anyone know of a decent UK credit card that does this and how easy it is to do? can i do it online? also after the 12 mths is up could i go back to my hsbc credit card? and does doing this affect my credit rating at all?

s.rose, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 14:26 (seventeen years ago)


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