Good (academically grounded) books about music blogging, are there any?

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I am doing my thesis on a subject sort of related to the above, can find plenty of CommTheory or new media type stuff which I can use and hopefully apply to music blogging, but are there any specific blogging books I could look out for?

If anyone has any other suggestions don't hesitate, thanks alot.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 14 April 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah it's due tomorrow at 9.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 14 April 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

they haven't been written yet ronan!

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 14 April 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

you are in the ground floor thesis-wise

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 14 April 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

haha good thing I was joking about it being due at 9 tomorrow then! it's due in about 4 weeks.

I guess being on the ground floor is good.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 14 April 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

the only book i can think of which makes reference to, off the top of my head, NYPLM is... paul morley's 'words and music'. i don't know how academically that is. i would think that morley exists between academia and the blogosphere, between frith and ewing, to lamely mimic a trope. footnotes that refer to websites are unstable and k-ugly if the addresses are long, but that's probably the only way to go.

N_RQ, Thursday, 14 April 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

words and pictures mentions Church of Me and one other, "manchester, so much to answer for" perhaps, as well as NYLPM.

ronan you should be at the same conference as Tom, then you could just write down the discussion panel and submit that ;)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 14 April 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

Yeah I thought of "Words and Music", not sure Morley is a scientist as such!

I guess I can use footnotes and refer to websites, it just might be tricky finding meta-stuff on all the weblogs, though from memory I think there has been a decent amount, maybe on blissblog and elsewhere too.

I suppose if anyone knows of any blogger or writer taking a particularly academic look at the whole thing that'd be helpful too. As I say I'm not totally bereft of ideas, but just trying to get started!

x-post yeah true Steve, maybe there'll be some documentation of that I can use!

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 14 April 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

the um grown-up stuff i've glanced at re "sociology of blogging" has (possibly unsurprisingly) tended to be in ref.politics and media and seems to think abt music blogs much the way music blogs think abt, oh, dr who fan-boards

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 14 April 2005 11:12 (twenty years ago)

(a hub of the above being crooked timber)

i have to say i wd argue that the net as a whole = almost by-defn a problem area for the "real facts = footnoteable citations" wing of academic thinking

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 14 April 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

they haven't been written yet ronan!

-- mark s (mar...), April 14th, 2005.

yes they have but they haven't been PUBLISHED yet grrrrrr!!!!!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 14 April 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)

well yes, ALL the information ronan needs is of course published ("published") on the net already - in the form of the relevant blogs, inc. marcello's - but the shortcut academic meta-info/analysis is not (i don't think) available anywhere, usefully, bcz the work hasn't yet been done (and the subject is developing as we speak, at least somewhat in reaction against the very concept of shortcut academic meta-info/analysis)

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 14 April 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)

do you think then, that, why it hasn't developed is a good area to explore?

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 14 April 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

i think there's lotsw of interestin stuff to exlpire but i think you have to admit out front it is goin to be v.ad hoc and empirical

(or read the entire interweb)

the on-panel presence reflects a certain self-defined understanding of the phenom-as-a-whole, which is interestin in itself

(cf also is ilx a tiny unknown corner of the web, or a world-historical intervention as understood by later ages, or sumfink a bit in-between)

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 14 April 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

it just might be tricky finding meta-stuff on all the weblogs

do me a favour, fink: throw it hard!

NR_Q, Thursday, 14 April 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

Get thee to database searches! I'm certain papers related to this topic (or at least blogging in general) have been published in journals - see communications abstracts, communications studies, humanities abstracts. (Your uni library may even have online access to many of the journals, so you might not even have to leave the comfort of your own home.)

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 14 April 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

The was this mentioned on No Rock & Roll Fun blog last year:

http://xrrf.blogspot.com/2004/10/bloggertation-as-we-remove-our-pop.html

BLOGGERTATION: As we remove our Pop Papers hat for another week, this seems to be a good point to mention the Dissertation Blog, which is - as the name would imply - a dissertation published in blogform, by featherboa. It's the first - as far as I know - academic study of music weblogs, which includes this one as one of the case studies. It's really worth a read if you're interested in the future of the music press

It's Masters degree leval dissertation on Music Blogs from a Journalism student.

Dissertation Blog
"A different kind of Criticism": Music Journalism and the Weblog Phenomenon
http://dissblog.blogspot.com/

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 14 April 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

warning: "it is a dissertation and/or published paper" != "it is good (academically grounded)"

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 14 April 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

Ronan when I gt back from Seattle remind me to email you my notes etc. for the panel (which dont exist yet but oh well) and a piece I wrote about mp3 blogs last year.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 14 April 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

It may be worthwhile to explore this website:

International Association for the Study of Popular Music
http://www.iaspm.net/iaspm/

IASPM is an international organization established to promote inquiry, scholarship and analysis in the area of popular music. Founded in 1981, IASPM has grown into an international network of more that 700 members world-wide. On national and international levels, the organization's activities include conferences, publications, and research projects designed to advance an understanding of popular music and the processes involved in its production and consumption. To build a large and diverse body of knowledge of popular music, IASPM is an organization which is both interprofessional and interdisciplinary. It welcomes as members anyone involved with popular music. To preserve its autonomy, the association remains independent of all commercial and governmental interests.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 14 April 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

As a member of the IASPM International Exec, you might let me pass your request onto the IASPM listserv. I know some people are looking into blogs of all sorts, so I might be able to put you in contact with people.

Guymauve (Guymauve), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

um, hasn't featherboa posted here before? i know her from Another Place and, i think, did a questionnaire for that there dissertation...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

Guymauve that'd be cool, btw.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 14 April 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

gosh the one thing the academy needs is more metacriticism

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 14 April 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

or metametacriticism

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 14 April 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

because god knows everything's been said about music already

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 14 April 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

Ronan, change your thesis so Am. doesn't have to kill Baby Jesus, plz.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 14 April 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

i'm taking the whole holy family with me if this goes down

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 14 April 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

Ronan, lots of cultural media or media-on-culture is ridiculously understudied (like duh that's what you're telling us) but in effect it can be pretty liberating; cover all the bases of what's been said in the general area(s) you're looking at and then say "well i'm kind of on my own here, so BEHOLD MY BRILLIANCE" (or what mark said about being in on the ground floor)

g e o f f (gcannon), Thursday, 14 April 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

haha understudied and under-studied i guess

g e o f f (gcannon), Thursday, 14 April 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

i mean the whole BIRTH of "soft news" ie industry trade mags + glossy H-wood fanmag + society page + women's page + radical press + "serious" reviews + NYT internal politicking etc—still unwritten, it's really sad.

g e o f f (gcannon), Thursday, 14 April 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

Blogging + academia in (same sentence) = fucked up world.

Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 14 April 2005 23:20 (twenty years ago)

expand

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 15 April 2005 05:17 (twenty years ago)

the only book i can think of which makes reference to, off the top of my head, NYPLM is... paul morley's 'words and music'. i don't know how academically that is. i would think that morley exists between academia and the blogosphere, between frith and ewing, to lamely mimic a trope. footnotes that refer to websites are unstable and k-ugly if the addresses are long, but that's probably the only way to go.

i think he'd rather see himself alongside meltzer and bangs. it's REALLY good, that book. but i don't really think it's useful in a paper. :-(

nathalie doing a soft foot shuffle (stevie nixed), Friday, 15 April 2005 05:33 (twenty years ago)

How so? Condensed history of music, lists of every great record ever made, philosophical discourse, metaphorical input and accentuated/disguised biography - it's got everything you need (though it makes more sense if you read it after you've read Morley's Nothing book, and before reading CoM).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 15 April 2005 05:37 (twenty years ago)

oh i meant in the meta-blog kinda way. :-) i do LOVE his writing, probably one of my fave writers now alongside the usual suspects. :-)

nathalie doing a soft foot shuffle (stevie nixed), Friday, 15 April 2005 07:00 (twenty years ago)


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